#19forPresident! 1 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Even Kwame Kilpatrick is looking at this wondering how a professional could make so many bad decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldredbarnman 13 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Against Anaheim Against Dallas - Did Pav say 'Bulls***'? Against Pittsburgh Dallas again Did O'Halloran officiate this one? http://www.detroithockey.net/multimedia/20..._is_negated.php What a resume, I guess. According to the game sheet at nhl.com, the refs that night in Phoenix were Brad Meier and Francois St. Laurent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenway9 1 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 In one of those clips, it looks like he is waving the goal off as the puck crosses the line! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SDavis35 140 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 In general, O'Halloran is a very solid ref. He's not bad, and the NHL knows that (hence why he was ref-ing the Cup final) It's because of that, that I don't like him. I've watched his other games that he's ref'd, and he doesn't botch his calls the way he does in Detroit. This is why I don't like him, and throw away any game that he's refd all year. I'm not sure the stats, but in the last year at least, we only won Game 2 of the Cup final when he ref'd. It's not always his fault. Last night however, he stopped the Wings momentum TWICE. One was legit, and the other was the prime reason for this topic I'm sure. Even still, as Babs said: we put ourselves in the situation, it's up to us to get ourselves out of it. O'Halloran should just not be allowed to ref any Detroit games. Not sure how this would affect scheduling, but there should be an effort to keep these bad calls from happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjgj13 30 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I checked out the Wiki pages for O'f***wad and Buttman. O'f***wad's has 3 or 4 lines and nothing out of the ordinary. Buttman has 1 line that made my day (and it is not even 9am). "Bettman has also been at the middle of much controversy. Bettman is a long time Red Wings hater, and will do anything in his power to prevent them from winning. Unfortunately, even so, the Red Wings continue to be a juggernaut." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjgj13 30 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 In general, O'Halloran is a very solid ref. He's not bad, and the NHL knows that (hence why he was ref-ing the Cup final) It's because of that, that I don't like him. I've watched his other games that he's ref'd, and he doesn't botch his calls the way he does in Detroit. This is why I don't like him, and throw away any game that he's refd all year. I'm not sure the stats, but in the last year at least, we only won Game 2 of the Cup final when he ref'd. It's not always his fault. Last night however, he stopped the Wings momentum TWICE. One was legit, and the other was the prime reason for this topic I'm sure. Even still, as Babs said: we put ourselves in the situation, it's up to us to get ourselves out of it. O'Halloran should just not be allowed to ref any Detroit games. Not sure how this would affect scheduling, but there should be an effort to keep these bad calls from happening. The 1st one the Wings scored looked like it was in. But, replay showed it was the black part of Franzen's stick. Even Mickey and Dan were freaked out. In game 2 of the finals, if PIT was not getting blown out, that could have created problems. If PIT scored a few goals and won it in OT, there would have been a game 7 and who knows what would happen then. Is it a coincidence his uniform number is 13? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KillerB14 2 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 If everyone wants their voice to be heard. Then do so here. Who knows if they'll take anyone seriously but I'd recommend to keep your responses mature. Maybe we can flood this email box and make them understand it's a big problem. http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwingsfan18 1 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 If everyone wants their voice to be heard. Then do so here. Who knows if they'll take anyone seriously but I'd recommend to keep your responses mature. Maybe we can flood this email box and make them understand it's a big problem. http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp Sent my 2 cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Sent my 2 cents. Care to share it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pjgj13 30 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 If everyone wants their voice to be heard. Then do so here. Who knows if they'll take anyone seriously but I'd recommend to keep your responses mature. Maybe we can flood this email box and make them understand it's a big problem. http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp Notice who the 1st VP of officials is?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Someone must have changed it. If you check out the 'history' on the page, it will show you what it used to say...take a look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 I checked out the Wiki pages for O'f***wad and Buttman. O'f***wad's has 3 or 4 lines and nothing out of the ordinary. Buttman has 1 line that made my day (and it is not even 9am). "Bettman has also been at the middle of much controversy. Bettman is a long time Red Wings hater, and will do anything in his power to prevent them from winning. Unfortunately, even so, the Red Wings continue to be a juggernaut." Glad I could make your day...I put something up there as well about Cindy Crosby being underneath his desk, but that may have been removed by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Glad I could make your day...I put something up there as well about Cindy Crosby being underneath his desk, but that may have been removed by now. You stay classy, Wings fans I didn't know it's the same guy who is making all these horrible calls against Detroit/Homer, but I seriously don't understand why they can't watch the replays and overrule the decision, like they're able to do in situations where it's uncertain if the puck went in or not. And the whole rule needs to be made clearer... I don't really understand how the goalie intereference rule works, and judging by total lack of consistancy in the GI calls, I don't think the refs do either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 Titanium, this post is epic. Yup, I was at the game last night and it's starting to piss me off. The lockout\strike pissed me off and I didn't watch NHL hockey for 1 1\2 years, and if they continue to consistently referee against Detroit I'll stop watching again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2009 If everyone wants their voice to be heard. Then do so here. Who knows if they'll take anyone seriously but I'd recommend to keep your responses mature. Maybe we can flood this email box and make them understand it's a big problem. http://www.nhlofficials.com/contact.asp To whom it may concern: As a lifelong Red Wings fan, I take hockey and the welfare of the team very seriously. In doing so, I can't help but raise my eyebrows at the actions of Dan O'Halloran as of late. I am not sending this comment to say that Mr. O'Halloran is a "bad" referee, but simply to ask how the NHL Officials Association can allow such biased attitudes in officiating against the Detroit Red Wings. Naturally, I am specifically talking about Tomas Holmstrom and the calls made against him by Mr. O'Halloran. I believe I'm not speaking out of my team allegiance when I say that his calls against Holmstrom are unwarranted. I've even spoken with many fans of other teams - who hold no allegiance with the Detroit Red Wings - who feel that something just isn't right with the attitude of Mr. O'Halloran and Holmstrom. I will not pretend to understand why Dan O'Halloran is assigned to referee Detroit Red Wings games time and time again, but I strongly suggest this issue be looked into for the sake of the NHL's fan base. Again, I am not saying that Mr. O'Halloran is a "bad" referee. I am simply asking that the issue of his calls on Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom be looked into and reviewed if possible. If there is, in fact, bias in his calls - which many feel that there seems to be - I believe, as a fan, that this matter should be dealt with accordingly. Sincerely, Amanda [Last]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 To whom it may concern: As a lifelong Red Wings fan, I take hockey and the welfare of the team very seriously. In doing so, I can't help but raise my eyebrows at the actions of Dan O'Halloran as of late. I am not sending this comment to say that Mr. O'Halloran is a "bad" referee, but simply to ask how the NHL Officials Association can allow such biased attitudes in officiating against the Detroit Red Wings. Naturally, I am specifically talking about Tomas Holmstrom and the calls made against him by Mr. O'Halloran. I believe I'm not speaking out of my team allegiance when I say that his calls against Holmstrom are unwarranted. I've even spoken with many fans of other teams - who hold no allegiance with the Detroit Red Wings - who feel that something just isn't right with the attitude of Mr. O'Halloran and Holmstrom. I will not pretend to understand why Dan O'Halloran is assigned to referee Detroit Red Wings games time and time again, but I strongly suggest this issue be looked into for the sake of the NHL's fan base. Again, I am not saying that Mr. O'Halloran is a "bad" referee. I am simply asking that the issue of his calls on Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom be looked into and reviewed if possible. If there is, in fact, bias in his calls - which many feel that there seems to be - I believe, as a fan, that this matter should be dealt with accordingly. Sincerely, Amanda [Last]. Well put... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Well put... Thanks. I'm sure it'll be filed under "Useless Complaints We Don't Need To Read", but it was worth a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aflac9262 211 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Thanks. I'm sure it'll be filed under "Useless Complaints We Don't Need To Read", but it was worth a shot. Hehehe..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 Hehehe..... I wish I could say "pun intended", but I can't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTU_Huskies963 398 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 To whom it may concern: As a lifelong Red Wings fan, I take hockey and the welfare of the team very seriously. In doing so, I can't help but raise my eyebrows at the actions of Dan O'Halloran as of late. I am not sending this comment to say that Mr. O'Halloran is a "bad" referee, but simply to ask how the NHL Officials Association can allow such biased attitudes in officiating against the Detroit Red Wings. Naturally, I am specifically talking about Tomas Holmstrom and the calls made against him by Mr. O'Halloran. I believe I'm not speaking out of my team allegiance when I say that his calls against Holmstrom are unwarranted. I've even spoken with many fans of other teams - who hold no allegiance with the Detroit Red Wings - who feel that something just isn't right with the attitude of Mr. O'Halloran and Holmstrom. I will not pretend to understand why Dan O'Halloran is assigned to referee Detroit Red Wings games time and time again, but I strongly suggest this issue be looked into for the sake of the NHL's fan base. Again, I am not saying that Mr. O'Halloran is a "bad" referee. I am simply asking that the issue of his calls on Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom be looked into and reviewed if possible. If there is, in fact, bias in his calls - which many feel that there seems to be - I believe, as a fan, that this matter should be dealt with accordingly. Sincerely, Amanda [Last]. lol I could not stay that calm and collective while posting an email to them. Maybe the 2nd time put not the third time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 the officials need to get off their knees and stop blowing the games! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted January 31, 2009 lol I could not stay that calm and collective while posting an email to them. Maybe the 2nd time put not the third time. I had to take breaks because I just wanted to type "O'Halloran sucks" over and over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R.Rabbit 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 I found the PRE-eddited version under the "HISTORY" tab. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincanni 1 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 Thread of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2009 O'Halloran is SO motivated to prove that he isn't biased toward the Red Wings that he makes all his calls to MAKE SURE that no one can say that he gives the Red Wings calls just because he is from Brighton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites