KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Dwayne Roloson and Eric Cole for Samuellson - Filppula - Osgood Dwayne Roloson is about 3.2 cap hit equalizes by Filppula's contract Eric Cole has 4 million cap ... Samuellson 1.2 and we've got 1.2 left = 2.4 million cap If I remember right since it's past half the season it won't hit the cap 4 million exactly a bit less or something. Cole is a FA after this season could very well go back to edmonton if he pleases ... Roloson is FA also... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Dwayne Roloson and Eric Cole for Samuellson - Filppula - Osgood Dwayne Roloson is about 3.2 cap hit equalizes by Filppula's contract Eric Cole has 4 million cap ... Samuellson 1.2 and we've got 1.2 left = 2.4 million cap If I remember right since it's past half the season it won't hit the cap 4 million exactly a bit less or something. Cole is a FA after this season could very well go back to edmonton if he pleases ... Roloson is FA also... Its not the worst idea i've seen but i would prefer the wings dump some salary in a trade. Edited February 8, 2009 by UP2HERE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Cole is an underachiever who's always hurt and Roloson may be even older than Ozzie. It would definitely shake things up, but at this point I wouldn't make such a trade for 2 guys that would likely be gone in the offseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I don't see how that addresses a need. Samuelsson is Cole, just cheaper. (This season) Osgood for Roloson is a wash. Filpulla could be used to get something we need (banging forward, defenseman) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I don't see how that addresses a need. Samuelsson is Cole, just cheaper. (This season) Osgood for Roloson is a wash. Filpulla could be used to get something we need (banging forward, defenseman) As far as I know, the team is not in need of a new towel boy. Kopecky has fit that role perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Roloson = do not want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 So what's Edmonton's motivation for making that trade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 So what's Edmonton's motivation for making that trade? Far more importantly, what is Detroit's motivation here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenova0 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I would rather have Penner, if he could ever get his game back. I don't understand why people want to get rid of Samuelsson; for what he gets paid, he delivers. Flip is the one who is underachieving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 I don't see how that addresses a need. Samuelsson is Cole, just cheaper. (This season) Osgood for Roloson is a wash. Filpulla could be used to get something we need (banging forward, defenseman) Sammy isn't Cole. Cole is much more physical, faster, and scores garbage goals. Sammy is more finesse and can play the point. Not really comparable in many ways. That said, this trade is HORRIFIC. Value for value, Osgood/Roloson and Sammy/Cole wipe each other out, so we basically give Filppula away for free to a team that could use him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Osgood has zero trade value. Probably couldn't get a 7th round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Osgood has zero trade value. Probably couldn't get a 7th round pick. are these random thoughts in your head, or do you actually watch and understand the game? A goalie hits a slump and now he's not worth a 7th rounder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Dwayne Roloson and Eric Cole for Samuellson - Filppula - Osgood Dwayne Roloson is about 3.2 cap hit equalizes by Filppula's contract Eric Cole has 4 million cap ... Samuellson 1.2 and we've got 1.2 left = 2.4 million cap If I remember right since it's past half the season it won't hit the cap 4 million exactly a bit less or something. Cole is a FA after this season could very well go back to edmonton if he pleases ... Roloson is FA also... I think that's a brutal idea. That's why Kenny Holland is the GM and you are not. Cole is washed up, Roloson has never won anything (and is way overpaid), and there's no point in giving away Osgood and his value salary...have a little faith in the guy...even if he's not the starter for us, he's a proven playoff performer and will be good insurance for us if Conks isn't coming through (provided he is the playoff starter). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 When has Roloson ever won a big playoff series in his career for us to want him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xitium 272 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 You mean the same Roloson that the Wings just shattered for a nickel in the first period? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DYags 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) I wish people would realize that being the GM of the Wings isn't the same as managing your dynasty on NHL 09. I don't mean to be rude to the topic starter, you are definetely not the first person to bring up a potential trade that to me has busted logic. Sure its a possibility, but is this really something Kenny would do...ever? No. The Wings hardly ever trade anyone. And they sure as hell aren't going to trade away multiple pieces of a Championship team. Illitch said it himself, "its all built on trust", and regardless of wheter a player has a no trade clause or not.. there is still an enormous amount of security that comes with being a Red Wing. So I guess what I'm trying to get at is this, there will be no one leaving this team.. possibly additions, but even that would seem strange to me. I just traded Kopecy, Franzen and Filppula for Kovalchuk on NHL 09. I'm going to win the Cup for sure. edit:grammer Edited February 8, 2009 by DYags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Umm didn't we just score a crap load of goals on Roloson yesterday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Uh...we want to repeat right? Cole is BRUTAL and Roloson is very average and prone to BLOWOUTS as we have seen three times this season. I wouldn't freak out about our cap space next year. Holland will find a way to get it done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Well mostly the trade is to dump salary ... for people that think ... Samy > Cole wow that's just plain sad, Cole more physical and can get you those goals that people on the wings don't like getting there noses dirty. Now I know this trade would never happen but it was just my opinion on how we could dump salary get ourselves a goalie that's in his last years and wants to win a stanley cup before he retires *motivation factor plays here also. Why flip? ... well first of all I am dumping his salary and edmonton wouldn't just make a trade for nothing. By Flip + Sammy + Osgood out you've just saved up about 6 millions in cap for next year which could be used to re-sign Hossa. Now Osgood gone, re-sign Conklin bring up Howard see what the kid got. Re-sign Leino and make Helm starter along side. Let Franzen walk. Hossa Datsyuk Holmstrom Hudler Zetterberg Leino Maltby Draper Cleary Kopecky Helm Maltby Lidstrom Rafalski Kronwall Stuart Ericsson Lilja Conklin Howard People might argue that Helm, Leino and Adkel are rookies or not starters caliber yet. Probably not this year, but Helm was pretty decent in the playoffs last year which he gained a lot of experience and is gaining his experience this year so he will be much capable of being a starter next year no problem. As for Leino, people probably would say what makes me think his ready for 2nd line, well as of now his not but if continues to play like this and improve, he will be very capable of being a 2nd liner next year. So basically the only real rookies and not as much experienced players would be Ericsson / Adkel, which I'm sure shouldn't be as big of a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnipeShow 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 are these random thoughts in your head, or do you actually watch and understand the game? A goalie hits a slump and now he's not worth a 7th rounder? Osgood is ancient and doesn't have too many years left, but thats not to say someone wouldn't trade for him. It wouldn't be worth it to trade Osgood... the return wouldn't make as big of an impact as he does for our team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrabCZ 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Hemsky <----> Filpulla + Franzen (Hudler) + picks? 4,1M <----> 3,942M (4,015M) + picks? (Samuelsson could join them as well) I just like Hemsky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Well mostly the trade is to dump salary ... When you are a contender you do that at the draft, not at the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted February 8, 2009 Hemsky <----> Filpulla + Franzen (Hudler) + picks? 4,1M <----> 3,942M (4,015M) + picks? (Samuelsson could join them as well) I just like Hemsky. Maybe Fil and a mid pick, but no way in hell would I add in Franzen or Hudler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrabCZ 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2009 Maybe Fil and a mid pick, but no way in hell would I add in Franzen or Hudler. That's not important because they'd never trade him for them anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLWINGSFAN4013 5 Report post Posted February 9, 2009 trade holland for burke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
