4/5 GDT: Wild 2 at Red Wings 3

[betterREDthandead 58]

Those of you who feel Osgood shouldn't be the starting goalie, do you truly believe Conklin can lead this team to the Cup?

Or are we just bitching about Ozzie cause its the trendy thing to do?

I think you know the answer to that question.

[McCartyFanForLife 17]

Way to miss the entire point of the argument.

If Osgood can't make a big save, then why do we even have him? We could put anyone in net, if we're going to give them a free pass any time they face a tough stop and let it in.

So if you're a NHL GM you would only draft a goalie with a 1.000 save percentage. I think you'd be searching from a long time

[EuroTwin 240]

Dude you are clueless. No defense is ever going to play perfect. Minnesota's goalie this game alone has saved the team's bacon numerous times. Wings have one defensive flub and the puck ends up rolling into the back of the net. LOOK at Osgood's positioning on that play, its absolutely horrific. He's so focused on cutting down the angle on every shot, that he ends up overplaying and overthinking situations.

I'm confused by your logic. How can you say that no defense is going to play perfect and then rag on Ozzie (or anyone really) for not playing perfect? I'm not trying to start a did-he-or-didn't-he Ozzie argument, it's just... how can you logically argue that?

[Phazon 24]

we need lilja back

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Backstrom is making five times more than Osgood! Of course he should be playing better! It's not Osgoods fault he was out of postiton for the second goal, it was the defenses fault.

So you expect the defense to be perfect every game, with Ozzie only being called on to make easy saves?

Actually, he's proven he can't even make the easy saves like that 1st goal.

[Guest Shoreline]

You're a truly annoying poster. When did I say I was sure we were out from the playoffs already? Stop misquoting me all the time, and stop always accusing people of s***.

Ozzie has sucked this year, and if it continues, it will be detrimental in the playoffs. If you want to call it bitching, then that's your analysis of it. However, I didn't say the season was already over. That's just you and your paranoid opinion of posters around here.

Wah wah wah, to you Ozzie is the only player on the ice. Nah, couldn't have been the defense not getting Gaborik's stick or covering their man.. it must be Ozzie being out of position. You Ozzie bashers are far more annoying, with little better to do than trash players on a team you supposedly like.

[j.hoop 64]

first ozzie goal was so ugly

[clutchngrab 12]

But I thought Ozzie was a Hall of Famer?

And the defense didn't stop playing. It's only natural that the WIld will have some scoring chances. They still have way less than the Wings do. You can't expect the defense to make no mistakes at all during the game.

Didn't you get the memo. Wings defense is only allowed to give up 5 shots a game. That should keep it around 1 goal.

[RedWingedKitten 9]

I'm just bitching because I am superbly frustrated. We have totally outplayed the Wild and this game should be 2-0 (5-0 if Backstrom wasn't out of his mind), but because of two poor positioning plays by Ozzie, its tied. Is Conklin the better option, probably not. But this is just killing me and I so hope that Ozzie gets on track soon.

Watch his play, his poor play has gotten to his head and he's way too focused on cutting down angles rather than making the correct decisions based on the situation.

How the hell can you blame that play on Osgood? Datsyuk lost it behind the net, then our D let them play with it infront of Osgood. Ozzie has had one bad goal this game, one!

[RedWingAbner 13]

You're right. "Somebody please injure one of our own players" is a no-no. So is this post, except that I needed it to quote in order to get the point across. "Osgood sucks" and "I hope he gets hurt" are exactly the kind of posts that don't belong.

And before you say it, criticism of players is not being censored, as it's perfectly acceptable to call that a dumb pass or a bad play or whatever. But it'll never be acceptable to openly wish for a career-ending injury to one of our players.

Eh, ok. "Osgood sucks" doesn't belong? This board has a long history of guys being lazy and sucking. Also, I might point out that Jordin Tootoo is often a target of "someone end his career" posts.

I just think it's a double-standard. And I really wouldn't want someone to break Osgood's knee. Just a sarcastic reaction to him su....err....playing bad.

BTW, this is censorship. I'm not saying that it's not your right as a moderator, but call it what it is. You didn't like that I used particular phrasing to go after Osgood.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

The D can't play good the whole game I think Redmond said it the other night that a Defensive break down does not mean a goal has to be scored.

Yup, thats exactly what I'm saying. And on that note, you can tell Redmond is frustrated by Osgood as well.

Maybe hes doing his own bitching about the goaltending behind the scenes. What a bandwagoner.

[Yzermania 156]

I'm confused by your logic. How can you say that no defense is going to play perfect and then rag on Ozzie (or anyone really) for not playing perfect? I'm not trying to start a did-he-or-didn't-he Ozzie argument, it's just... how can you logically argue that?

perfect isn't even in the question for ozzy, usually we have to HOPE he atleast plays good this season.

[Guest Shoreline]

But I thought Ozzie was a Hall of Famer?

And the defense didn't stop playing. It's only natural that the WIld will have some scoring chances. They still have way less than the Wings do. You can't expect the defense to make no mistakes at all during the game.

Only a couple people in the entire Hall of Fame have ever played like an MVP every single season. Your expectations are so unrealistic it's funny.

[RedWingedKitten 9]

So you expect the defense to be perfect every game, with Ozzie only being called on to make easy saves?

Actually, he's proven he can't even make the easy saves like that 1st goal.

No, I never said I expect our defense to be perfect, I expect the offense to make up for Osgoods short comings, and the defense to limit the amount of shots he needs to take.

[Guest MrSandMan]

It's not Osgoods fault Backstrom is playing out of his mind.

No doubt. The fallacy here is expecting Osgood (who isn't a premier paid goalie) is expected to play like $6+ future MVP goalies.

That's like going to buy a $18,000 Chevy Cavalier and expecting it to feature and drive as nice as a $55,000 Cadillac. Not sure how the mentality here works sometimes.

Our success is built on Defense and determination. This year we don't have that solid defense or 60 minutes of determination... so lets blame it ALL on the goalie.

Also, surprised nobody has mentioned our cold PP.

[MTU_Huskies963 398]

So you expect the defense to be perfect every game, with Ozzie only being called on to make easy saves?

Actually, he's proven he can't even make the easy saves like that 1st goal.

I love this whole money argument. Half of the wings team has taken pay cuts to stay on the wings. Does that give them permission to play like crap then, because their are other players out there that make more and play the same position.

[BuckeyeWingsfan80 209]

Only a couple people in the entire Hall of Fame have ever played like an MVP every single season. Your expectations are so unrealistic it's funny.

I hear Ed Belfour is available.

[norrisnick 1]

Goal 1 was Osgood's fault.

Goal 2 wasn't. He was to the left for the initial shot and before he could move right E slid into him. He had no chance to get square.

[betterREDthandead 58]

Oh good. Another GDT devolving into an Ozzie pissing match. Shocking.

[clutchngrab 12]

I think you know the answer to that question.

I think Conklin could possibly. I realize its an outside shot. But I am completely convinced Osgood cannot. I am not trying to be negative, it's just that I've watched every game this year and have no confidence in what my eyes are seeing in net.

[Guest Shoreline]

No, I never said I expect our defense to be perfect, I expect the offense to make up for Osgoods short comings, and the defense to limit the amount of shots he needs to take.

The entire defense was also out of position on the goal. The offense did not score on the power play, or breakaways. This team as a whole is why this is 2-2. Blaming everything on Ozzie is not only stupid but shows one's logic to blame it on the most convenient person. Jee.. goalie in net, it gets past him, must always be his fault.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Who said anything about Conklin? Bitching usually comes from frustration. Are we not allowed to be frustrated by the fact that Osgood is subpar and he's the only option we have? Sounds like a good reason to be upset if you give a damn about your teams playoff chances.

Absolutely were allowed to be frustrated by Ozzie's poor season given that he's going to be the guy in goal in a couple weeks. I'm quite nervous about it myself. However 99% of people here (not necessarily you) have the "goaltending answer" for Detroit, and for some convenient reason its never the guy currently between the pipes.

That's whats annoying and its never-ending here at LGW.

[greenrebellion 415]

I'm confused by your logic. How can you say that no defense is going to play perfect and then rag on Ozzie (or anyone really) for not playing perfect? I'm not trying to start a did-he-or-didn't-he Ozzie argument, it's just... how can you logically argue that?

I don't need perfection, it would be nice if he didn't have the WORST goaltending stats in the league.

[RedWingAbner 13]

Goal 1 was Osgood's fault.

Goal 2 wasn't. He was to the left for the initial shot and before he could move right E slid into him. He had no chance to get square.

Goal 2 was. It was him coming out of the net to have a debate with himself about playing the puck that led to his weak pass around the boards that allowed the whole situation to come to fruition.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

Wah wah wah, to you Ozzie is the only player on the ice. Nah, couldn't have been the defense not getting Gaborik's stick or covering their man.. it must be Ozzie being out of position. You Ozzie bashers are far more annoying, with little better to do than trash players on a team you supposedly like.

Are you Osgood's wife by any chance? You're giving him way too much credit for sucking. Guess what, a goalie has to make saves sometimes when his defense breaks down. It seems like every goalie in teh league this year is better apt to handle those situations than Osbad is.

Only a couple people in the entire Hall of Fame have ever played like an MVP every single season. Your expectations are so unrealistic it's funny.

You're misquoting me again. When did I say I expected Ozzie to play like an MVP?

You need to drop this Ozzie s***, because you sound more incoherent each time he makes you look foolish out there.