jpd88 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 So I was reading that MLive is saying that only up to 4 of the Wings games will be on national television? I do not understand what is up with this. Not only are the Red Wings the defending stanley cup champions, but they are also the most popular hockey team in the United States. On top of that, it is not even the first round anymore, meaning that the NHL should be able to schedule the Red Wings into all seven of the national television slots. Is this rumor true, or am i just blowing off steam for nothing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 So I was reading that MLive is saying that only up to 4 of the Wings games will be on national television? I do not understand what is up with this. Not only are the Red Wings the defending stanley cup champions, but they are also the most popular hockey team in the United States. On top of that, it is not even the first round anymore, meaning that the NHL should be able to schedule the Red Wings into all seven of the national television slots. Is this rumor true, or am i just blowing off steam for nothing? I don't know if we really are only getting 4 of 7 games on national TV, but if we are no one should be surprised......The Red Wings are not the most popular hockey team in the United States from a marketing standpoint, we don't have Ovie or Crosby, and we are full of "boring" players, we have the most successful team in the league but we don't have any flashy players that will draw outside viewers, Lidstrom, Osgood, Z,Pav, etc. are not flashy personalities (part of the reason they are so successfull), no one should be surprised by this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) I hate Bettman and his Penguins. If we only get up to 4 games in this series despite it being the 2nd round, it'll be even more embarassing than what happened the last round. Detroit/Anaheim will be the most exciting series so far in the playoffs. This is a huge mistake by the league if they decide to minimize Wings coverage. Anyone know why the NHL network shows many games in the regular season but not the playoffs? Edited April 29, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) I don't know if we really are only getting 4 of 7 games on national TV, but if we are no one should be surprised......The Red Wings are not the most popular hockey team in the United States from a marketing standpoint, we don't have Ovie or Crosby, and we are full of "boring" players, we have the most successful team in the league but we don't have any flashy players that will draw outside viewers, Lidstrom, Osgood, Z,Pav, etc. are not flashy personalities (part of the reason they are so successfull), no one should be surprised by this This is true, although I haven't seen any finalized schedule posted on what games get what broadcast so it's too early for me to make any criticisms yet. The second round should also feature at least one or two FSD games. No sense in getting knee-jerk yet. Although, for some here that's just second nature. Edited April 29, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilmickeyli 40 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 if it happens, i'm grabbing hockeystreams for sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 I'm in NorCal. I'm hoping local feeds will show any non-national broadcast games. Or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 This makes me all the more thankful I'm in Canada - our TV back home even has TSN2. That's amazing that they wouldn't show all the playoff games, there'd be riots up here if that happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) If Pittsburgh plays Washington, you can forget about seeing any other games that are on that night. Well, it looks like that's exactly what will happen. Pray that the Wings are scheduled on the other nights. Edited April 29, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Game 1 is on TSN2 in Canada. Embarrasing, they have the Canes and Boston on the main network. What a joke! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jellytoast 1 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 I hate Buttman and his Penisguins. If we only get up to 4 games in this series despite it being the 2nd round, it'll be even more embarassing than what happened the last round. Couldn't agree more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) Game 1 is on TSN2 in Canada. Embarrasing, they have the Canes and Boston on the main network. What a joke! The NHL is a joke. Not televising the last 2 Stanley Cup champs playing each other is laughable. I hope the game is being streamed online somewhere like the last two Columbus games were. F*** you Bettman. Edited April 29, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 I don't know if we really are only getting 4 of 7 games on national TV, but if we are no one should be surprised......The Red Wings are not the most popular hockey team in the United States from a marketing standpoint, we don't have Ovie or Crosby, and we are full of "boring" players, we have the most successful team in the league but we don't have any flashy players that will draw outside viewers, Lidstrom, Osgood, Z,Pav, etc. are not flashy personalities (part of the reason they are so successfull), no one should be surprised by this You're wrong on this. The Wings are the most popular team in America. I dare you to travel around the country and find people wearing Pens and Capitals jerseys the way you'll always see WIngs jerseys being worn. The league is in denial. Gary Bettman is in denial. The Wings = ratings and have shown so in the past. When the Pens have legions of fans following them game to game, then I'll say differently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Anyone know why the NHL network shows many games in the regular season but not the playoffs? I believe it's part of the Versus contract iirc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Oh nooooes here comes the Wings = NHL victims spiel again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 I believe it's part of the Versus contract iirc. So in other words, that's Bettman's fault too, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 You're wrong on this. The Wings are the most popular team in America. I dare you to travel around the country and find people wearing Pens and Capitals jerseys the way you'll always see WIngs jerseys being worn. The league is in denial. Gary Bettman is in denial. The Wings = ratings and have shown so in the past. When the Pens have legions of fans following them game to game, then I'll say differently. Agree...there is absolutely zero doubt that the Wings are #1 in the US and #3 overall after Toronto and Montreal. It's just that they're trying to change that by constantly fluffing the Pens and Caps. I'm not going to worry about it too much until the schedule comes out. They could deliberately schedule us and them on different days. And keep in mind that we'll be on the west coast 2-3 games, so they'd be able to show both us and Caps-Pens on those days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) I really don't care about national coverage, I'd rather hear our guys anyhow, BUT no national coverage means no special start times, meaning at least 2 games that will be starting at 10:30 here at home! Pull that belt 1 notch tighter and hang on! 4:00 am comes early, especially being part of the Western Conference! Edited April 29, 2009 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heed316 7 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 I really don't care about national coverage, I'd rather hear our guys anyhow, BUT no national coverage means no special start times, meaning at least 2 games that will be starting at 10:30 here at home! Pull that belt 1 notch tighter and hang on! 4:00 am comes early, especially being part of the Western Conference! I am actually looking forward to those 10:30 games as I don't get out of work until 9pm and have to record all the games and watch them when I get home...and going those few hours without finding anything out about the games is quite difficult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 I really don't care about national coverage, I'd rather hear our guys anyhow, BUT no national coverage means no special start times, meaning at least 2 games that will be starting at 10:30 here at home! Pull that belt 1 notch tighter and hang on! 4:00 am comes early, especially being part of the Western Conference! I wish I could say the same. Maybe I should move to Detroit just for the playoffs. The late starts don't bother me, since I'll be done with finals this week, and in the past that has been a problem in just about every playoff year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 You're wrong on this. The Wings are the most popular team in America. I dare you to travel around the country and find people wearing Pens and Capitals jerseys the way you'll always see WIngs jerseys being worn. The league is in denial. Gary Bettman is in denial. The Wings = ratings and have shown so in the past. When the Pens have legions of fans following them game to game, then I'll say differently. That is why Buttman won't move the Wings bak in to the Eastern Conference. If the Wings left the west, who would go to all those games in Phoenix, Dallas, Los Angeles, etc... Heck, Nashville and Columbus may as well closeup shop if the Wings went East. Buttman aint no dummy (well, maybe) but he has business smarts. The Wings equal rating in the west. When he needs them. Move them East and the Western COnference may as well pack it in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) Bettman shamelessly uses the Wings, but then never promotes them. And I do not want to hear about "whining" because Osgood and Holland have "whined" about the same thing. It's not just the fans that notice. I honeslty do not understand Versus - the Red Wings have pulled in the highest ratings seen across the country in years, from last year's SCF (of course Crosby helped) and the last Winter Classic, which pulled in a lot more viewers than Crosby's Winter Classic. How do you ignore that, and why? Wash/Pitt is a great series, no doubt, but Det/Ana is pretty damn exciting one as well - certainly more exciting than Bos/Car. # The Red Wings have seen big ratings for their first round series. Game 3 between the Red Wings and Blue Jackets drew a 12.0 rating on FS Detroit, the highest rating for a Red Wings telecast on the net in five years. Through the first three games, the Red Wings/Blue Jackets series is averaging a 10.4 in Detroit. And more so than any other team, the Wings have viewers outside of their state. Consider how well they helped ratings in Ohio: FOX Sports Ohio also televised all Jackets Stanley Cup Playoff games, which averaged a 4.66 household rating (over 43,000 households or 97,000 at-home viewers). In addition, ratings for Game 1 of the club’s first round Stanley Cup Playoffs series vs. the Detroit Red Wings on April 16 was the most-watched Blue Jackets game on FOX Sports Ohio ever, as it registered a 5.73 rating (over 53,000 households and 119,000 at-home viewers). Regular season game vs. Detroit yielded higher ratings than the game vs. Pittsburgh: 4.53 vs 3.28. Detroit's ratings were down 16% this season and now they're almost triple their regular season average. I'm sure having a bad Pistons team this year has helped. Meanwhile, Puck The Media: After a weekend which saw the best opening round Stanley Cup Playoff ratings in awhile, the NHL came back down to earth this weekend. According to Sports Business Daily (Reg. required), the network's telecast of Game 6 - Penguins vs. Flyers drew an overnight rating of 1.2/3, down from both the 1.7 overnight for Game 3 of the series, but also merely even from the 1.2 overnight from last year's comparable telecast (4/19/08 - Flyers vs. Capitals). There was more bad news on Sunday. NBC's broadcast of Game 6 - Capitals vs. Rangers drew a 1.0/2 overnight rating, down big-time from last year's comparable telecast (4/20/08 - Red Wings vs. Predators) but the same overnight as last week's Game 2 telecast. The game tied with the ratings for the taped poker event that preceded it. Clearly the NHL's all-East, all-the time strategy backfired on them this week. Despite this, the East is will still get the Lion's share of games broadcast nationally. Edited April 29, 2009 by egroen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Detroit/Anaheim will be the most exciting series so far in the playoffs. This is a huge mistake by the league if they decide to minimize Wings coverage. I disagree, I think Capitals vs Penguins is more exciting. That series will be on VS, every single game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 You're wrong on this. The Wings are the most popular team in America. I dare you to travel around the country and find people wearing Pens and Capitals jerseys the way you'll always see WIngs jerseys being worn. The league is in denial. Gary Bettman is in denial. The Wings = ratings and have shown so in the past. When the Pens have legions of fans following them game to game, then I'll say differently. +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Here's the full 2nd round schedule: 1. By Network NBC: May 2, Pittsburgh vs. Washington, 1:00 PM ET May 3, Anaheim vs. Detroit, 2:00 PM ET VERSUS: April 30th Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 1, 9:00 PM ET* May 1st Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 1, 7:00 PM ET* Carolina vs. Boston, Game 1, 7:30 PM ET (JOINED IN PROGRESS) May 2nd Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 2, 9:00 PM ET May 3rd Carolina vs. Boston, Game 2, 7:30 PM ET* May 4th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 2, 7:00 PM ET* May 5th Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 3, 8:00 PM ET Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 3, 10:30 PM ET May 6th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 3, 7:00 PM ET* Boston vs. Carolina, Game 3, 7:30 PM ET (JOINED IN PROGRESS) May 7th Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 4, 8:00 PM ET* Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 4, 10:30 PM ET* May 8th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 4, 7:00 PM ET Boston vs. Carolina, Game 4, 7:30 PM ET (JOINED IN PROGRESS) May 9th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 5, 7:00 PM ET Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 5, 10:30 PM ET May 10th Carolina vs. Boston, Game 5, 7:30 PM ET* May 11th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 6, 7:00 PM ET Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 6, 9:00 PM ET (JOINED IN PROGRESS) May 12th Boston vs. Carolina, Game 6, 7:00 PM ET Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 6 10:00 PM ET May 13th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 7, 7:00 PM ET May 14th Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 7, 7:00 PM ET Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 7, 10:00 PM ET VERSUS Exclusive Telecasts: April 30th - Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 1, 9:00 PM ET May 1st - Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 1, 7:00 PM ET May 3rd - Carolina vs. Boston, Game 2, 7:30 PM ET May 4th - Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 2, 7:00 PM ET May 6th - Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 3, 7:00 PM ET May 7th - Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 4, 8:00 PM ET May 7th - Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 4, 10:30 PM ET May 10th - Carolina vs. Boston, Game 5, 7:30 PM ET Canada CBC April 30th Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 1, 9:00 PM ET May 2nd Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 1, 1:00 PM ET Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 2, 9:00 PM ET May 4th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 2, 7:00 PM ET May 5th Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 3, 8:00 PM ET May 6th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 3, 7:00 PM ET May 7th Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 4, 8:00 PM ET May 8th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 4, 7:00 PM ET May 9th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 5, 7:00 PM ET Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 5, 10:30 PM ET May 11th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 6, 7:00 PM ET Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 6, 9:00 PM ET May 13th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 7, 7:00 PM ET May 14th Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 7, 9/10:00 PM ET TSN/TSN2: May 1st Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 1, 7:00 PM ET (TSN2) Carolina vs. Boston, Game 1, 7:30 PM ET (TSN) May 3rd Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 2, 2:00 PM ET Carolina vs. Boston, Game 2, 7:30 PM ET May 5th Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 3, 10:30 PM ET May 6th Boston vs. Carolina, Game 3, 7:30 PM ET May 7th Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 4, 10:30 PM ET May 8th Boston vs. Carolina, Game 4, 7:30 PM ET May 10th Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 5, 5:00 PM ET Carolina vs. Boston, Game 5, 7:30 PM ET May 12th Boston vs. Carolina, Game 6, 7:00 PM ET Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 6, 10:00 PM ET May 14th Carolina vs. Boston, Game 7, TBD Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 7, TBD 2. Day-by-Day April 30th Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 1, 9:00 PM ET (CBC/VERSUS) May 1st Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 1, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN2) Carolina vs. Boston, Game 1, 7:30 PM ET (TSN/VERSUS JIP) May 2nd Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 1, 1:00 PM ET (NBC/CBC/RDS) Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 2, 9:00 PM ET (CBC/VERSUS) May 3rd Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 2, 2:00 PM ET (NBC/TSN) Carolina vs. Boston, Game 2, 7:30 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN) May 4th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 2, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/CBC/RDS) May 5th Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 3, 8:00 PM ET (CBC/VERSUS) Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 3, 10:30 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN) May 6th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 3, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/CBC/RDS) Boston vs. Carolina, Game 3, 7:30 PM ET (TSN/VERSUS JIP) May 7th Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 4, 8:00 PM ET (CBC/VERSUS) Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 4, 10:30 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN) May 8th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 4, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/CBC/RDS) Boston vs. Carolina, Game 4, 7:30 PM ET (TSN/VERSUS JIP) May 9th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 5, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/CBC/RDS) Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 5, 10:30 PM ET (CBC/VERSUS/RDS) May 10th Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 5, 5:00 PM ET (TSN) Carolina vs. Boston, Game 5, 7:30 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN) May 11th Washington vs. Pittsburgh, Game 6, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/CBC/RDS) Vancouver vs. Chicago, Game 6, 9:00 PM ET (CBC/VERSUS JIP) May 12th Boston vs. Carolina, Game 6, 7:00 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN) Detroit vs. Anaheim, Game 6, 10:00 PM ET (VERSUS/TSN) May 13th Pittsburgh vs. Washington, Game 7, 7:00 M ET (VERSUS/CBC/RDS) May 14th Carolina vs. Boston, Game 7, TBD (TSN/VERSUS) Anaheim vs. Detroit, Game 7, TBD (VERSUS/TSN) Chicago vs. Vancouver, Game 7, 9/10PM ET (VERSUS/CBC) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 Here I think I got them all, little easier to figure it out... Red Wings vs Ducks Game 1- Versus, TSN2 Game 2- NBC, TSN Game 3- Versus, TSN Game 4- Versus, TSN Game 5- TSN Game 6- Versus, TSN Game 7- Versus, TSN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
