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Datsyuk a Hart Finalist

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So deserved... I hope Pasha wins it, and the Selke and the Pearson and the Lady Byng, and the Conn Smythe and that other big shiny beautiful silver mug.

They're going to have to fly Pasha to Las Vegas on the team plane, just so he can haul all that hardware home with him without running into airport security. So much precious metal!

:lol:

He's awesome, and he's ours. It doesn't get much better than this.

PS - edit for realism, I think Pavs will suffer somewhat from Red Wing burn-out/NHL media bias/Bettman influence. He may not win all the awards he's entitled to, just because...

Edited by puckloo39

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He could possibly have his name on as many as 6 trophies this year.

Selke<-- shoe in

Byng<-- shoe in

Pearson<--strong case

Hart<--strong case and he should win.

Smythe<-- we shall see

Stanley<-- we shall see

is there more trophies he can take??

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Even if he comes in third place, it's still a great, great honour to receive enough votes to make the top three.

The only other Red Wings to ever make the top three in Hart voting were Fedorov, Yzerman and Howe. Although I'm fairly sure Lidstrom's made the top five before.

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I think the poser was asking, considering the question marks and all... Who knows...

Hoping Pavel walks errr skates away with the Hart again.

Poser? Just what am I "posing" as? I happen to think that the most skilled offensive players in the league happen to be Russian. Is that so absurd? And to the idiot who said "Lame Post", I say "Lame Response".

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Even if he comes in third place, it's still a great, great honour to receive enough votes to make the top three.

The only other Red Wings to ever make the top three in Hart voting were Fedorov, Yzerman and Howe. Although I'm fairly sure Lidstrom's made the top five before.

You missed a few:

Ebbie Goodfellow 1st (1940); 3rd (1937)

Syd Howe 3rd (1943)

Sid Abel 1st (1949)

Red Kelly 2nd (1954); 3rd (1951 & 1953)

Terry Sawchuk 3rd (1963)

Norm Ullman 2nd (1965)

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Poser? Just what am I "posing" as? I happen to think that the most skilled offensive players in the league happen to be Russian. Is that so absurd? And to the idiot who said "Lame Post", I say "Lame Response".

I think he meant to type "posTer".

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Poser? Just what am I "posing" as? I happen to think that the most skilled offensive players in the league happen to be Russian. Is that so absurd? And to the idiot who said "Lame Post", I say "Lame Response".

not speaking for rivalred, but I think he meant "poster," not poser. He was taking your side, not dissing you. ;)

the interweb isn't always a reliable messenger, is it?

Oh, yeah... GO, PASHA!!! Win it all in Vegas, baybee!!

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whomever votes on this , good for them!

It's the writers that vote, or specifically the Professional Hockey Writers' Association. They vote for almost all the major awards. Datsyuk being a finalist means he's top three in the voting, which itself means that the media has finally caught on to what Datsyuk really means to the Wings. Big :thumbup: for that. The evolution of Pavel's game has really been a treat to watch.

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GP G A PTS +/- ESG PPG GWG ENG PIM HITS BKS GvA TkA FO% ES TOI/G SH TOI/G PP TOI/G TOI/G

Evgeni Malkin 82 35 78 113 17 19 14 4 3 80 80 39 81 94 42.4 15:53 1:04 5:33 22:31

Alex Ovechkin 79 56 54 110 8 36 19 10 5 72 243 32 107 60 25.0 16:39 0:55 5:24 23:00

Pavel Datsyuk 81 32 65 97 34 20 11 3 1 22 76 33 50 89 56.0 14:13 1:36 3:23 19:12

As per NHL.com

Pav's giveaway/takeaway ratio is much better, his faceoff % is higher, his +/- is superb, minuscule penalty minutes, and he's only scored 1 empty net goal all year.

But, the stats that really stand out are at the end. Check out the Time On Ice stats. Pav plays MORE shorthanded minutes, LESS powerplay time, and less TOTAL time on ice then both OV and Malkin and still puts up close to 100 pts.

Pavel Datsyuk for MVP. Hands down.

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In a just universe he'd get it; as it stands the fact that he was nominated is definitely huge. Major props to Pavel on his huge year.

I don't know about "in a just universe he'd get it." Don't they like to view the award as in "if this player was injured the rest of the way, how would the team do?" Because in that case, if you take away Pavel from the Wings, it's more likely that someone steps up and provides a stopgap for Pav's contributions. But if WAS didn't have Ovie or if PIT didn't have Geno then who would step up on their teams?

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I don't know about "in a just universe he'd get it." Don't they like to view the award as in "if this player was injured the rest of the way, how would the team do?" Because in that case, if you take away Pavel from the Wings, it's more likely that someone steps up and provides a stopgap for Pav's contributions. But if WAS didn't have Ovie or if PIT didn't have Geno then who would step up on their teams?

That's not really how it's awarded in practice, but I was just running my mouth anyways. :P

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I don't know about "in a just universe he'd get it." Don't they like to view the award as in "if this player was injured the rest of the way, how would the team do?" Because in that case, if you take away Pavel from the Wings, it's more likely that someone steps up and provides a stopgap for Pav's contributions. But if WAS didn't have Ovie or if PIT didn't have Geno then who would step up on their teams?

Pretty much. I'd, of course, love for Dats to win it -- but I honestly don't think he has much of a chance for the reason you pointed out. I think AO's the forerunner; the Caps would be nowhere without him. The Pens would still have Crosby.

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Like I've said, I understand and appreciate what Feds did for this team. I also understand the circumstances surrounding his departure from this organization. Specifically, I know he didn't simply pack up and say, "Seeya later, losers!" Even so, I don't see him as the kind of heart & soul Wing that gets his number raised. In all honesty, it pains me to say that; I idolized the guy as a kid. I even modeled my own game after his -- and it helped my career, while it lasted.

So I hold him very near and dear. But I just don't see 91 going up. Maybe it will, but I'll be surprised if it does.

I don't know about "in a just universe he'd get it." Don't they like to view the award as in "if this player was injured the rest of the way, how would the team do?" Because in that case, if you take away Pavel from the Wings, it's more likely that someone steps up and provides a stopgap for Pav's contributions. But if WAS didn't have Ovie or if PIT didn't have Geno then who would step up on their teams?

crosby, staal on pittsburgh, backstrom, semin, green on washington. backstrom especially is getting great he is t he next peter forsberg if he keeps up

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