SoDakWing 8 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 That doom is closer than you guys might think, two games can slip away just like that.. and they have to win 4.. oh im sorry, 3 straight games. and the same goes for the f*ckin ducks. Sh*t happens and we happened to lose this triple overtime game. Well hey it happened against Pitt last year and we won that series. Just let things play themselves out. Whatever happens happens, nothing we say on here will benefit anyteam so I personally don't understand why so many people are freaking out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Boston lost 3-0 to Carolina in Game 2. At home. Series tied 1-1. No team is going to go 16-0 through the playoffs. That wouldn't be fun to watch. This is playoff hockey, and games like this is why the playoffs is awesome. Sure, losing at home, in this way, is tough. But it's not tougher than the loss in Game 5 of the SCF of last year. Wings will bounce back and take atleast one of the games at the Pond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 That doom is closer than you guys might think, two games can slip away just like that.. and they have to win 4.. oh im sorry, 3 straight games. The Capitals had to win 3 straight games too and we all know what happened. It can be done and if any team in the NHL can do it, it's the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 If the Wings never lose another playoff game this year, I'll still be mad about this loss. I'm just crazy like that. To me, this was another typical Wings loss. Dominate the play, have the opponent's goalie stand on his head, then some loser for the other team that scored maybe 10 goals all year, throws a prayer to the net and it goes in. That frustrates the heck out of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Playoff hockey rules! Great game yesterday, but a bad result for Wings fans obviously. Everyone is justifed in panicing now because we all know that anything can happen. Sure it's POSSIBLE the next couple of game go to the Ducks but at the same time, it's POSSIBLE the Wings rip another 5 game streak. At this point it's too early to tell which way this series is going to end, but one thing you can say for sure is that it's gonna be trench warfare until the very end. Personally, I like the Wings chances going into Anaheim because of the huge minutes played by the Ducks (only) top line. I realize that the Wings also played some huge minutes but I think the silver lining in this cloud is that the Wings greatly out hit the Ducks which can certainly help us when it comes to how quickly the Ducks can recover. Datsyuk's gotta step up though and I'm sure having Draper and Rafalski back wouldn't hurt either. In any case, I'm looking forward to the next two games...except for the 10:30pm start times that is. Ughhh. GO WINGS GO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 dot calm. Everything will be all right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 I'm glad I stayed away from any message boards until today. Yes we lost. Yes we stunk in the first 40 minutes. Yes we deserved to win in OT. But that's playoff hockey. The good news is that without Getzlaf, Perry and Ryan on the ice, their forwards look like a collection of AHL rejects. I was also glad to see that Hiller is not the end-all, be-all of goalies. He looked shaky on a lot of shots and I have confidence we'll continue to light him up - especially since his glove and blocker hands are slow and he loves to go down early. I'm actually surprised he doesn't start the game in the butterfly position before the puck is even dropped. We got stronger as the game progressed to the point that Anaheim didn't look like they belonged in the same building as us. No worries. We'll win 3 of the next 4 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 The good news is that without Getzlaf, Perry and Ryan on the ice, their forwards look like a collection of AHL rejects. I was thinking the same exact thing. We'll win 3 of the next 4 games. From your lips to God's ears. Actually, if you could just change that to "We'll win 3 of the next 3 games" that'd be even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.OWingsFan 7 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Good thread, but please understand somethings. -A terrible goal to give up for Osgood in triple OT. No excuses. The team played well but that was a hell of a deflating goal for the guys and an inflating one for Anaheim. I mean frakkin Marchant wrister top shelf? Weak. The only saving grace for Osgood is that Hiller let in a stinker too, but the difference was he got better as the game progressed. -Datsyuk, Hossa and Z better get on the score sheet in a big way. They've been playing OK, but merely OK. We're 1-1 in the series on the strength of our secondary and tertiary scorers and Lids. Getzlaf's line is in on almost all of their goals. We need our best players to match. I felt that their displays in the OTs was better than its been in the series thus far, so I hope its a good sign, but they need to score. I appreciate their defence, but they simply need to score. -We need Rafalski back. NOW. ASAP. God why is it we're always shorthanded on the blueline when we play these guys? With Rafalski back we get that right handed shot back there that we need when they mark Lidstrom. -Draper's speed is needed by the Helm-Maltby line. I'd be inclined to sit Malts as he hasn't shown anything on that line and put Drapes with Helm and Kopecky. That line was IMO our best and in a long series against Anaheim's top line which plays alot of minutes (you saw Get's line was less effective as the game got longer) out 4th line and its speed can really expose them IMO. I gotta be honest with you, without these changes and some big saves from Osgood I don't know if we can do this. Either way IMO this is the western conference (maybe Cup) right here. Its gonna go 6 games MINIMUM I believe, maybe seven. Also to note and the commentators noticed it too: Anaheim ALWAYS entered our zone through the right side. I hope Babs saw this too and will make some adjustments to make it harder for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NKYWingsFan 4 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Clearly, the series is over. Pack it up. Raffi's "doubtful" for Game 3 at the House of Honda. If that doesn't just take the air out of any possible chance the Wings had at winning the Cup, I don't know what does. It's over. Get your tee times early! Or.... It could be a best of five series now, and the leaders on the team know exactly what they need to do. Guess I'll go with those guys and hold off on reserving a tee time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Good thread, but please understand somethings. -A terrible goal to give up for Osgood in triple OT. No excuses. The team played well but that was a hell of a deflating goal for the guys and an inflating one for Anaheim. I mean frakkin Marchant wrister top shelf? Weak. The only saving grace for Osgood is that Hiller let in a stinker too, but the difference was he got better as the game progressed. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=277448 The third overtime was only about a minute old when Anaheim's Todd Marchant flicked a wrist shot through traffic toward the net. Detroit goalie Chris Osgood never saw it coming. I know it was a brutal goal from a Wings prospective, but I can safely say that if goal was in any way, shape, or form a result of poor play on the part of Osgood then we'd be discussing this on page 15 of another Osgood thread instead of this one. Osgood saved our butts enough times to keep us in that game. Hiller was great as well and unless I'm wrong, a majority of the saves he made in OT were on shots from the blueline or boards. The Wings and Ducks both used the idea of just throwing as many pucks on the net as possible, it just happened that the Ducks caught the break and we didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S_Whitney 1 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=277448 I know it was a brutal goal from a Wings prospective, but I can safely say that if goal was in any way, shape, or form a result of poor play on the part of Osgood then we'd be discussing this on page 15 of another Osgood thread instead of this one. Osgood saved our butts enough times to keep us in that game. Hiller was great as well and unless I'm wrong, a majority of the saves he made in OT were on shots from the blueline or boards. The Wings and Ducks both used the idea of just throwing as many pucks on the net as possible, it just happened that the Ducks caught the break and we didn't. I agree. Osgood was playing really well in both games I would say. Especially during the first two periods of both games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotvm 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Boston and Carolina- tied at 1 game apiece Vancouver and Chicago- tied at 1 game apiece im sure their fans arent panicking and neither should we. its playoff hockey, it aint easy, and thats why its a series. remember 2001-2002 against Colorado when scotty bowman kept talking about staying calm and rolling 4 lines and eventually our depth would prevail? same situation here! be prepared to sit through some tense games......maybe 7 of them GO WINGS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.OWingsFan 7 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 remember 2001-2002 against Colorado when scotty bowman kept talking about staying calm and rolling 4 lines and eventually our depth would prevail? I remember Freddy Olausson was our #2 dman. We can win, but we need our guys to step up and we need to stop giving up goals in bunches. And no matter what anyone says, that was a horrible goal to give up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedLightGoesOn 81 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 I knew we couldnt sweep the Ducks. I said Wings in 5. An I wish that were true. But I am not too sure how easy this will be. Hiller is doing good, but we showed his rookie status can be a weak point. But the problem is the Ducks know how to play D against the Wings. And let me add its very hard to stop Pronger's slap shot and having Teemu out there to shoot the rebound. I have said in 07 that Teemu is an offensive power house, and every chance he has to shoot the puck I cringe because hes that good. Wings need to mix it up. The low slot isn't that much of an option, especially with Pronger and Neds there. Behind the net and try to draw them out is a great way to do it. How will the Wings beat the Ducks? Defense is a must. No sloppy skating or anything. And we they need to work a better game plan to get the puck to the net to generate scoring chances. I might make a suggestion that we reunite Z and Dats and move Hossa with Fronzen. If we have to win both Games in Anaheim or split worse case. Going down 3-1 is how we lose this series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenway9 1 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 Marian! Please please please score a hat trick on Tuesday! I beleive in you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsallwin 0 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=277448 I know it was a brutal goal from a Wings prospective, but I can safely say that if goal was in any way, shape, or form a result of poor play on the part of Osgood then we'd be discussing this on page 15 of another Osgood thread instead of this one. Osgood saved our butts enough times to keep us in that game. Hiller was great as well and unless I'm wrong, a majority of the saves he made in OT were on shots from the blueline or boards. The Wings and Ducks both used the idea of just throwing as many pucks on the net as possible, it just happened that the Ducks caught the break and we didn't. Excellent post Ozzie did everything he could during the 1st and 2nd periods while the Wings were wondering "What are we doing woo hoo~". He stopped all break away from Miller and so many chances from the Ducks line and Teemu. That is all. Ducks outplayed the Wings in the 1st and 2nd periods so there cannot be any complaint on Ozzie. But while I am cheering for Ozzie, I think the last goal was soft. I do not know whether Stuart screened or not but it looked easy to make a save. I could be wrong but that was disaapointing by comparing the last goal to his overall good performance yesterday. Besides, everyone has to calm down. I thought the Wings would play very tough against the Ducks because I knew the Ducks are not 8th seed quality team and before the series starts, I reminded myself that the winner of this series will win the championship of the west and has a great chance to win the cup of this year. Just because we lost one game, it is not the end of the series. Let's have a faith on the Wings to play far better in rest of games especially in game 3 and game 4 on the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted May 4, 2009 I WANT ARBYSSSSSSS!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted May 4, 2009 I think I am far from losing it at this point in the series. I don't like dropping one at home but it is bound to happen. I think Ozzy and D have been solid. I think our big names need to step it up. Which I think they will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Why? The Ducks have been less than spectacular on their home ice. Detroit is great on the road. Advantage=Detroit. The pressure is on the Ducks to win at home now. Okay.... I'm gonna post some ugly facts here, folks. Please don't lynch me. Yet..... Firstly, the above quoted post: That's not exactly true, MrSandMan. During this years Play-Offs, (which is all that matters right now), the Ducks have 3 wins on the road, (including last nights 3OT), and two wins at home. Counting the only completed Series, it breaks down like this: Road GF - 7 GA - 5 Home GF - 11 GA - 5 So, as you can see, the Ducks are better at home than they are on the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoDakWing 8 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Okay.... I'm gonna post some ugly facts here, folks. Please don't lynch me. Yet..... Firstly, the above quoted post: That's not exactly true, MrSandMan. During this years Play-Offs, (which is all that matters right now), the Ducks have 3 wins on the road, (including last nights 3OT), and two wins at home. Counting the only completed Series, it breaks down like this: Road GF - 7 GA - 5 Home GF - 11 GA - 5 So, as you can see, the Ducks are better at home than they are on the road. What do our stats say about our Home and Road? I'm curious to see how we compare. Edited May 5, 2009 by SoDakWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) First round Home: 8 GF (now) 14 GF 1 GA ....... 8 GA Road: 10 GF 6 GA *May not be correct, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was in the end And that's with our crappy goalie period too Edited May 5, 2009 by Four Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Okay....after having read the thread.... Coming into this Series, I was confident. But I was also wary. It's difficult to compare this Series being tied 1-1 with the Pens/Caps Series being tied 1-1, or the Bruins/Canes Series being tied 1-1. This is Wings vs Ducks. You can go ahead and believe that the Ducks are a "one line Team", because they are. But you know what? THEY don't believe that. Not for a second. THEY believe that they are the guys who just knocked off the President's Trophy Winners and one of the "favorites" to contend for the Cup going into the Post Season. You can go ahead and believe that the Wings have a huge advantage in depth. But you know what? THEY don't believe that. Not for a second. THEY believe that they can hang with any Team in the League, and even outlast them. You can go ahead and believe that they're an 8th seed who barely backed into the Play Offs based on a 10-2-1 run to close out the year. But you know what? THEY don't believe that. Not for a second. THEY believe that they're "the best 8th seed in the history of the NHL", and that they simply underachieved all year long. And you can certainly go ahead and believe that the Wings are the Defending Stanley Cup Champs, and the superior Team, and the their Leaders "know what to do." But you know what? THEY don't believe that. Nope. Not for ONE second. THEY believe that they are the Team with the best Post Season record in the NHL since 2003. THEY believe that they've stepped over the bodies of the 'superior' Red Wings, not once, but TWICE, and ONCE against a Cup Defending Wings Team, on their way to the Cup Finals. THEY believe that they are the Team that has DOMINATED Detroit both at home, and on the road, during their past two post-season match-ups. THEY believe that they are the Team which is ONE YEAR removed from winning the Cup themselves, having stepped over the Wings to get there. THEY believe that their #1 scorer and best player not only leads the Team, but leads the LEAGUE, in post season scoring, while their current opponents #1, #2 and #3 scorers haven't even gotten on the board against in two home games. All year we have watched in frustration as the Wings have taken the first 40 or 50 minutes off in countless games, only to turn it on in the last 10 or 20, and let their skill carry them to victory. Sometimes it's worked. Sometimes it hasn't. They're doing it again. In both games 1 and 2. The Wings believe that they are the better Team. That their superior skill and depth will prevail. And they are playing like they are waiting for their beliefs to become reality. The Ducks are playing in a manner to MAKE their beliefs become reality. The "best" Team does NOT always Win. 2003 should have taught them that. 2007 should have reinforced that lesson a thousandfold. The Wings didn't Win the Cup last year because they were the most skilled, most talented, deepest Team in the League. They Won the Cup because they were the HARDEST WORKING Team in the League. If they don't get back to that hard work, they will not prevail in this Series. Because the guys on the other side of the ice believe that THEY are a favorite to Win the Cup. And THEIR Leaders "know what to do", too. And they don't just "believe" it. They are WORKING for it. The Wings can TAKE this Series. No doubt about it. But they've gotta WANT it. And more... They've gotta WORK for it. Go Wings, GO!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 What do our stats say about our Home and Road? I'm curious to see how we compare. More importantly, how does our Home record against the DUCKS look? W - 1 L - 1 GF - 6 GA - 6 Not quite what I'd like to see, to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Alright! There ya go, let's talk about this..... You forgot: Wings believe they just knocked out Steve Mason who has been named a finalist for the Calder Memorial Trophy. Hiller who? Mason posted some of the worst stats for an NHL goalie in the last 1 1/2 months of the Season. His stats for that timeframe were about the same as Ozzie's stats on the year. He went into the Play Offs.....COLD. Ice cold. And Calder Trophy? Raycroft who? What's his save % against Detroit in this series? As good as the Sharks series? I didn't think so. So how can you compare Ducks home record when they haven't seen the offense that Detroit brings? He's currently posting a .939 SVP against Detroit which, (as you guessed), isn't quite as good as his .957 SVP against San Jose. ...and maybe Getzlaf's numbers wouldn't be so good if he didn't play a whopping 8 games already. Or maybe his numbers wouldn't be so impressive if he played against a solid goaltender, not some overrated Nabokov. Getzlaf has a point in every goal against Detroit this Series but one. The game winner last night. Deep down, the Ducks are afraid of the Wings... they wake up in the middle of the night in cold sweats finding themselves sucking on their thumb. Yes. I think you're right. The Ducks DO fear the Wings. And they are playing with an urgency and a desperation worthy of that fear. It's working. Ducks are playing a real playoff team now, not a president team poser that has a history of choking. With all due respect, the Wings are playing a real playoff team now, too, not a bunch of playoff virgins who are shaking in their skates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
