Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) One only need look at a nightly boxscore to see that Crosby has no real problem handling pressure when it comes to performing. I chalk up his verbal gaffs to just being young. You look at some other young captains that don't get railroaded like Crosby does, guys like Toews and Richards. How often do you see either one of them up on a podium? Hell, half the time their teammates get more press and more face time than they do. Stick any one of us in front of a camera for as much time as Sid spends in front of one and you'll see the verbal diarrhea spewing like a Peter North money shot. I never said anything about performing. This thread is in regards to the way he handles himself with the media... or did I miss something? I also said (twice... now 3 times) that he handles himself WAY better than I ever could at his age. I will say this though... it's pretty pathetic when a historical match-up occurred last night, which displayed 2 premier players notching hat tricks in the same game, and we get a thread discussing Crosby's COMMENTS. That's pretty weak, in my opinion. Edited May 5, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted May 5, 2009 I never said anything about performing. This thread is in regards to the way he handles himself with the media... or did I miss something? I also said (twice... now 3 times) that he handles himself WAY better than I ever could at his age. I will say this though... it's pretty pathetic when a historical match-up occurred last night, which displayed 2 premier players notching hat tricks in the same game, and we get a thread discussing Crosby's COMMENTS. That's pretty weak, in my opinion. I totally agree. I guess it was bad form to quote you. My remarks were more to follow up on what you were saying, not to contradict what you were saying. You are on the side of the Angels in my opinion. That would be my side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Malkin needs to jam the red ball in his mouth, bend him over and teach him a lesson! He would do it,but he's too busy with his annual playoff disappearance in the Caps series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 I totally agree. I guess it was bad form to quote you. My remarks were more to follow up on what you were saying, not to contradict what you were saying. You are on the side of the Angels in my opinion. That would be my side. It kinda read like a follow-up post, but I wasn't sure. Figured I'd follow up the follow up just to make sure. I also happen to agree with Doc Holiday for the most part. It just seems like every time a "Crosby said something stupid again" thread emerges, he comes flying in with a fist in the air and finger in their face. In retrospect, I was a little over the top in my initial response to him. That's my bad. I just don't understand why he gets so angry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashenhigh 9 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Ovie didn't complain about Crosby's hat trick and the proceeding 1 hat that was thrown on the ice. Seems to me that Crosby just doesn't like hats. Infact, OV said in the presser after the game that Sidney had a "sick hatrick" Love OV. Hate Crosby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Infact, OV said in the presser after the game that Sidney had a "sick hatrick" Love OV. Hate Crosby. It's easy to be so nonchalant when you have ZERO PR expectations placed on you, besides your own. OV has no pressure to be anything but himself. Crosby on the other hand, well... I personally think that Crosby is twice the player that OV is. He matched him one for one last night (in front of a hostile crowd, no less) in spite of all the outside pressures placed upon him. All OV has to do is show up, receive sweet passes from Backstrom and score goals. Lay a few hits and dive once or twice... oh yea, and throw himself around the rink after he scores. Crosby has to be the face of his team, the face of the league, the Captain of his team, one of the primary playmakers of his team... and in spite of all that pressure, still matches OV in goals. Gimme that kid every day and twice on Sunday. Seriously... if the Capitals lose that series, is ANYONE gonna blame AO? Who's gonna catch the brunt of the hell if the Penguins lose? He's in a lose/lose situation. If he falls short in the playoffs... he sucks and is a crybaby. If he wins the Cup, Bettman handed it to him. Jesus... Edited May 5, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BewareThePenguin 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) It's easy to be so nonchalant when you have ZERO PR expectations placed on you, besides your own. OV has no pressure to be anything but himself. Crosby on the other hand, well... I personally think that Crosby is twice the player that OV is. He matched him one for one last night in spite of all the outside pressures placed upon him. All OV has to do is show up, receive sweet passes from Backstrom and score goals. Lay a few hits and dive once or twice... oh yea, and throw himself around the rink after he scores. Crosby has to be the face of his team, the face of the league, the Captain of his team, one of the primary playmakers of his team... and in spite of all that pressure, still matches OV in goals. Gimme that kid every day and twice on Sunday. Wow, someone else who recognizes Ovechkin's diving... like I said, the acting job he put on last night should get him nominated for the Oscars next year. Got a sweet Power Play out of that one. Didn't see anyone put up any posts about it though. Glad you realize some of what Crosby's up against too, unlike any other player in the game today. Last night, both guys had hat tricks. Ovechkin scored one being fed beautifully on a power play where there wasn't another player within 10 feet of him. On the other hand, Crosby scored two goals where he was surrounded, and had to dig and shoot 3 or 4 times before it went in. (Although the third Ovechkin goal was a sweet end-around move similar to one Crosby scored in Game 1.) Crosby carried his team last night. Nobody else on the team did a single frickin' thing. Ovechkin played an awesome game, but got a lot more help from his squad. Edited May 5, 2009 by BewareThePenguin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Please show me ANYONE who paraded the Pens as the "real champs" anywhere. Are you really that insecure? Have you not seen the Versus commericals? Both are basically a Penguins highlight reel of Game 5 of the 2008 SCFs, and make it look like the Penguins steamrolled the Wings. Even my wife commented once, "Dindn't Detroit win that series?" I'm sorry, but those commercials alone are awfully annoying. That is what I was refering to. Hossa dived, nobody said anything. Imagine if that had been Crosby. Go check out a Ducks' board - they noticed and certainly were not holding back on commenting about it. Ovechkin acted like he got shot in the face by a cannon last night -- Sir Lawrence Olivier would've been proud of that little display of drama. Again, nobody said anything. But I guess that's his "passion for the game" in action huh? I am not an Ovechkin slappy and do not like him simply because he is option "B" to Crosby's "A". In fact, I think Crosby is the better player, though I occassionally flip-flop. Crosby brings some of the stuff on himself, no doubt. But read the whole article quoted. See if it's really that bad after you read the rest of what he had to say. A lot of what Crosby does is "not that bad", but it rubs the wrong way and is annoying. But every year there is more and more of it and it simply causes me to dislike him. I agree with several sentiments expressed earlier that he is not a good captain, and that as a rule of thumb, it is a mistake to award a captaincy to such a young player - even Yzerman's case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Seriously... if the Capitals lose that series, is ANYONE gonna blame AO? Who's gonna catch the brunt of the hell if the Penguins lose? He's in a lose/lose situation. If he falls short in the playoffs... he sucks and is a crybaby. If he wins the Cup, Bettman handed it to him. Jesus... Malkin. He's already gettin' it from Pens fans. Just sayin'... esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Malkin. He's already gettin' it from Pens fans. Just sayin'... esteef You have a point there. They are already turning on him. Aren't they... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 My position that I think that Crosby may be buckling under the pressure and that he's handling his situation way better than I could have at his age is crap? Hmmmmm... ok. Do you even bother to read responses or do you just look for key words and blow a nut? Me, personally, I couldn't give two s***s what Crosby says or how he says it or why he says it. But in the post of yours that I quoted you made a comment about "where is the hockey discussion?". You seem to take Crosby bashing very personally. I guess I'm just curious why. Where do I take it personally? I'm curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion. And your position that Crosby may be buckling under pressure is crap. The one who is buckling is Malkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 http://www.myspace.com/pummelermusic CROSBY SUCKS!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 You have a point there. They are already turning on him. Aren't they... And I thought he looked great last night too, until the late penalty of course. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Where do I take it personally? I'm curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion. And your position that Crosby may be buckling under pressure is crap. The one who is buckling is Malkin. Ironically, it was Crosby who was the playoff stalwart, and the most consistent player (from the Pens) last year. Malkin was rendered useless for the most part during the finals. So far these playoffs the same trend is occurring. Crosby must be buckling alright.. Edited May 5, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Ironically, it was Crosby who was the playoff stalwart, and the most consistent player (from the Pens) last year. Malkin was rendered useless for the most part during the finals. So far these playoffs the same trend is occurring. Crosby must be buckling alright.. I was gonna respond to Doc Holiday, but since you had the most recent moronic post, I'll respond to yours. Follow closely... I'll speak in words you can, hopefully, easily understand. And I'll do it nice and slow. For both of you. This... thread... is... in... regards... to... Sidney... Crosby's... comments... to... the... press. Try and stick with the topic. I know it's easier to be a smartass when you suspend and/or create your own reality. In fact, read my response a few posts back. It'll tell you all you need to know concerning my thoughts on Sidney Crosby as a player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Where do I take it personally? I'm curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion. And your position that Crosby may be buckling under pressure is crap. The one who is buckling is Malkin. I'm speculating on why he makes silly COMMENTS... got that? COMMENTS. I'm actually defending him. And you are... what ARE you doing? You've lost me. Edited May 5, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladdy16 2,154 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 I was gonna respond to Doc Holiday, but since you had the most recent moronic post, I'll respond to yours. Follow closely... I'll speak in words you can, hopefully, easily understand. And I'll do it nice and slow. For both of you. This... thread... is... in... regards... to... Sidney... Crosby's... comments... to... the... press. Try and stick with the topic. I know it's easier to be a smartass when you suspend and/or create your own reality. In fact, read my response a few posts back. It'll tell you all you need to know concerning my thoughts on Sidney Crosby as a player. Play nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Play nice. K Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 I was gonna respond to Doc Holiday, but since you had the most recent moronic post, I'll respond to yours. Follow closely... I'll speak in words you can, hopefully, easily understand. And I'll do it nice and slow. For both of you. This... thread... is... in... regards... to... Sidney... Crosby's... comments... to... the... press. Try and stick with the topic. I know it's easier to be a smartass when you suspend and/or create your own reality. In fact, read my response a few posts back. It'll tell you all you need to know concerning my thoughts on Sidney Crosby as a player. Yes, and I responded saying how stupid it is to harp on this guy's every comment. I'm keeping up with the thread fine, but you seem to be seriously annoyed that I'm not conforming to the majority on this. Jebus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Yes, and I responded saying how stupid it is to harp on this guy's every comment. I'm keeping up with the thread fine, but you seem to be seriously annoyed that I'm not conforming to the majority on this. Jebus. I don't think you're understanding my position. Or you're choosing to ignore it. Not sure which. Allow me to clarify: A) I don't hold any of his comments against him B) I would pick Crosby to be on my team before AO C) I think he is under immense pressure at a very young age The only thing I find annoying is that every time a topic like this comes up, you come into the thread with both fists swinging, questioning the validity of the thread. If the thread isn't valid, it will be deleted. You aren't a Mod. Edited May 5, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) Yes, and I responded saying how stupid it is to harp on this guy's every comment. Technically, Sid had a lot more comments than the one in question, it's just the one that really stood out amongst most fans. esteef Edited May 5, 2009 by esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kidish 0 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 His comments were pretty whiny. He's jealous he only got one hat thrown for his efforts. A hat-trick performance in a game Ovie played like that...so totally getting a ton of hats thrown. Has Crosby forgot about the whole "doing it for the fans" deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blikst 1 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Nah, I don't mind anybody who root, root, roots for the home team (until they become blinded to all objectivity by their homerism). But being a Red Wings fan has never meant having to hang on everything Sidney Crosby says or does. I care more about where Datsyuk, Z, Hossa and Holmstrom's offense went than I do about what Crosby said to an on ice official to try and get the game moving again. And for the record this isn't the 1st time something like this has happened. Correct me if I am wrong but he league even instituted a rule did they not that would enable the officials to call a delay of game penalty against the home team for throwing too much s*** on the ice for too long a period of time? Another case of much ado about nothing except it came from Sidney Crosby. http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26355 63.4 Objects Thrown on the Ice – In the event that objects are thrown on the ice that interfere with the progress of the game, the Referee shall blow the whistle and stop the play and the puck shall be faced-off at a face-off spot in the zone nearest to the spot where play is stopped. When objects are thrown on the ice during a stoppage in play, including after the scoring of a goal, the Referee shall have announced over the public address system that any further occurrences will result in a bench minor penalty being assessed to the home Team. Articles thrown onto the ice following a special occasion (i.e. hat trick) will not result in a bench minor penalty being assessed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 If Yzerman/Lidstrom/Dasyuk/Zetterberg ever bitched about fans throwing hats on the ice after a hat trick, I wouldn't be a Wings fan. Period. The guy whines and moans about EVERYTHING. When he isn't crying, he's relishing in undeserved attention from the greater Pittsburgh area (and gullible hockey fans across the US and Canada) for achievements that he has yet to receive (i.e. a Stanley Cup). He's a poor role model and an embarrassment to the league. This is just another reminder of how much of an arrogant, self-centered S.O.B. he really is. The NHL really is the 'Sidney Crosby Show' in his eyes. What a joke. Amen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted May 5, 2009 Read the quote please. "'People kept throwing hats,' Sidney Crosby said tonight. 'I was just asking if he could make an announcement to ask them to stop.'" I did read the quote. Thank you. Still sounds like complaining. Usually, when you want someone to ask fans to stop doing something, it means it is a complaint. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites