Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Is there a more overused word by NHL players than "gutless"? Sloppy Seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 I don't understand how the term "gutless" figures in to this hit. How exactly is it gutless? It was massive and explosive and lethal and ferocious and thundering and bone rattling and any other adjective you could think of to describe the devastation dropped on Havlat, but to suggest some how that it was a cheap play devoid of courage, or substance or strength is just idiotic. Stuff it Soupy and turn the puck over some more... Exactly! It wasn't a hit from behind, nor was it into the boards or glass. He wasn't away from the play. I hate to see someone injured, but this is exactly what Kronwall is supposed to do in this situation. It's his job and it takes a great amount of intestinal fortitude to go out and lay one on someone like that. Gutless is when you sneak up on them or whack them with your stick, not when you put your own body on the line to get them off of the puck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) I wouldn't waste my time. I'm sure they would come up with some stupid excuse for why it was a penalty. I got to thinking, has there ever been a 5 minute major for interference like this one? And, what's the ruling technically when a player has the puck in his feet? Is he in possession of the puck or not? Edited May 23, 2009 by Firehawk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 I didn't say all players say stupid things. I said the number of stupid players isn't increasing, just the media coverage. *edited for clarity* Media coverage is increasing, but whether or not the number of stupid players isn't increasing is debatable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) I got to thinking, has there ever been a 5 minute major for interference like this one? And, what's the ruling technically when a player has the puck in his feet? Is he in possession of the puck or not? Brown got a 5 minute major for interference for his hit on Hudler as well as a game misconduct. Edited May 23, 2009 by Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Brown got a 5 minute major for interference for his hit on Hudler as well as a game misconduct. You are right about that, how about a 5 minute call when the puck is in the skate of the player? Hudler had passed the puck away already when he got hit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 "as long as they arent talking about my horrible defensive play then it was gutless on Kronner" Brian (turnover) Campbell states Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 You are right about that, how about a 5 minute call when the puck is in the skate of the player? Hudler had passed the puck away already when he got hit... No clue on that one, but I have a feeling that the answer is never. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NomadFromKazoo 42 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) If thats what he thinks then he should have been suspended on his hit on Umberger a few years ago when he was with Buffalo. Wow, that is an amazingly similar hit. Good find. Edited May 23, 2009 by NomadFromKazoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 I don't understand how the term "gutless" figures in to this hit. How exactly is it gutless? It was massive and explosive and lethal and ferocious and thundering and bone rattling and any other adjective you could think of to describe the devastation dropped on Havlat, but to suggest some how that it was a cheap play devoid of courage, or substance or strength is just idiotic. Stuff it Soupy and turn the puck over some more... You're right, it doesn't in any sense. Not the way hockey is played and usually called. One of the worst types of "gutless" to me is the after-the-whistle-crap when some total unadulterated cowards in the league take their cheapshots and can be pretty sure they'll get away with it. Hits to the head; takedowns in front of the net; hammerlocks; slashes; crosschecks to the back, neck and ribs; heels of sticks into ribs....it absolutely drives me nuts that the refs just don't go to each bench and tell the coaches/whoever that if there's any bulls*** after the whistle THEY WILL CALL IT. It is just another sickening inconsistency in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 One of the worst types of "gutless" to me is the after-the-whistle-crap when some total unadulterated cowards in the league take their cheapshots and can be pretty sure they'll get away with it. For instance, Dustin Byfuglien coming in and running Kronwall after his (at that time still) legal check... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Husker BigGuy 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 The way the language is framed around these injuries, I think it's pretty likely we don't see Datsyuk until next round, and that means there might not be a next round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 LOL gutless is the new favorite term in the NHL. 100% clean hit. If Havlat would of got up right after the hit, there would be no such talk going on by the Hawks team. Only reason why they think it's 'dirty' is because Martin was extremely shaken up. That does happen with clean hits too ya know... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) LOL gutless is the new favorite term in the NHL. 100% clean hit. If Havlat would of got up right after the hit, there would be no such talk going on by the Hawks team. Only reason why they think it's 'dirty' is because Martin was extremely shaken up. That does happen with clean hits too ya know... Hey, Reem, which one do you think is worse? Gutless (Kronner = not!!!!) or brainless (Campbell)? Edited May 23, 2009 by puckloo39 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 For instance, Dustin Byfuglien coming in and running Kronwall after his (at that time still) legal check... Yesssirrrr,exactly. And he jeopardized his team mate by doing it. :looney: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 I hope Kronwall lays out Campbell tomorrow with that same hit. Little curly haired ***** complaining about a clean hit. Guy should be playing a different sport if he thought that was dirty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 It was LEGAL. Only complete losers dont use high quality on youtube videos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted May 23, 2009 Awesome, awesome hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 www.TSN.ca/nhl did a piece called "A New Debate" on the hit and Campbell sounds like a snivelling girl about it. He obviously is just upset about the hit and according him Kronwall jumped, hit him with forearms not shoulder, and Havlat wasn't playing the puck. At least Sharp said it was a hard hit and Kronwall is someone they have to watch out for. Kronwall seems upset about all the attention to it, at least in my eyes, seems like he feels really bad, but it was a great hockey hit. Campbell needs to button his lips on the hit, he obviously has no idea what he is talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kolo 10 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 THE DRILLER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 ugh, i'm so sick of the use of the word "gutless" in the national hockey league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowHuntingFool 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 I think Brian "Turnover" Campbell is trying to take the focus off him and his poor playing. Great hit everyday of the season! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) "Absolutely FANTASTIC!" to see Babcock defending Kronwall like he did in today's presser. http://redwings.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?ca...-6&id=42524 Edited May 23, 2009 by b.shanafan14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted May 24, 2009 I'd like to see an official statement from the NHL on this ... to see how they spin this thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grinder_25 1 Report post Posted May 24, 2009 Times like this i really miss having Dallas Drake on our team, the way he nailed d-men last year in the playoffs. He would have hunted down Campbell next game... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAVwt0WQA2Y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
