Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 One thing I cannot understand for the life of me is how the Anaheim Ducks' goaltenders manage to gobble up shots and freeze them better than any other team in the league. I'm not trying to take any credit away from Giguere and Hiller, but why are the Ducks' goalies consistantly able to freeze pucks when the shots hit them, while other goalies we face give up rebounds all over the place? I know their goalies are great position goalies and have a great coach, but something still seems off. All the other teams we play, the pucks don't get caught up in the goalies equipmnet as much. They bounce off, fumble, rebound out to the side, etc, just like they do with Ozzie at times. With the Ducks, any shot above 6 inches just ends up in the goaltenders blanket of a jersey. I don't get why the Ducks have this advantage over the rest of the league and nothing is done about it. I got to say, it's nice to watch the Wings play Chicago and Pittsburgh because I know there's a chance of the play continuing for more than 30 seconds at a time because the goaltender isn't going to swallow every puck fired at him. Does anyone know anymore about this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickeyisms Rule! 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Goaltending equipment made out of Tempurpeda foam? More than likely it is that their goaltending coach teaches that part very well. Just like how our net presence has been aided by Holmstrom's example and others on the team watching him over the years and learning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 I thought Hiller actually gave up some pretty juicy rebounds that series -- it's just that Anaheim's defense collapses on net and is extremely good at clearing away those second chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 A lot of it is their defenders playing pinched on the crease and controlling the rebounds for Hiller/Giguere. Giggy gives up many less rebounds, as his rebound control is superior to Hiller's, but they both still give up a lot. But having two huge guys in front of the crease does a lot for rebound control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 I thought Hiller actually gave up some pretty juicy rebounds that series -- it's just that Anaheim's defense collapses on net and is extremely good at clearing away those second chances. Exactly, Hiller's rebound control was the biggest knock on him if I remember correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Like any good competitors they take advantage of the rules as best they can, and so long as the NHL allows them to use mattresses as pads, they will have better then average low coverage, and they do have a great goaltending coach who will make sure they know what to do after the shot hits them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Anaheim would have beaten the Pens in the Final if they would have gotten by us. No doubt in my mind. Crosby would be missing an eyeball after Pronger was done with him. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Anaheim would have beaten the Pens in the Final if they would have gotten by us. No doubt in my mind. Crosby would be missing an eyeball after Pronger was done with him. lol Seeing Crosby with an eye-patch makes me laugh! ARggggghhhhhhhhhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pavyaz19 1 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 One thing I cannot understand for the life of me is how the Anaheim Ducks' goaltenders manage to gobble up shots and freeze them better than any other team in the league. It's because you've been watching Ozzie for too long. Makes great saves, then turns easy saves into huge rebounds for his whole career. He is the master giver of rebounds. It's a good thing he makes big saves along the way, like I said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 It's because you've been watching Ozzie for too long. Makes great saves, then turns easy saves into huge rebounds for his whole career. He is the master giver of rebounds. It's a good thing he makes big saves along the way, like I said. You haven't been watching the playoffs, have you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Absolutely they are cheating ... just the other day, on the 9th hole, Hiller hit two balls in the water but didn't take the penalty, and Giggy is notorious for carrying extra clubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Both Hiller and Giguere play a very similar style of netminding, heavily relying on a strong butterfly and being as big in the net as possible. They are both extremely good at gobbling up anything shot above their waist, and both have very good gloves. Hiller's rebound countrol in particular, however, is weak when shooting at his pads. Both of those goalies are susceptible to on-the-ice plays; shooting five hole, shooting for rebounds off the pads and looking for cross-crease passes which can be tapped in easily. Unfortunately, Anaheim's defense is very good at making sure that those rebounds are cleared and not dangerous and are almost always able to take away any easy cross-seamers. The playing styles of their goalies and their defense are intertwined and work beautifully together.. but when you interrupt their defense's ability to defend their goalie, then the weaknesses emerge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 I thought Hiller actually gave up some pretty juicy rebounds that series -- it's just that Anaheim's defense collapses on net and is extremely good at clearing away those second chances. Hiller's rebound control was atrocious. He was poppin' 'em out like a goofy Swiss Pez dispenser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 To answer your question, yes, Anaheim is a bunch of cheaters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Their equipment is made of this new rubber magnet. Everybody here in Finland uses it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rtkoss 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 One thing I cannot understand for the life of me is how the Anaheim Ducks' goaltenders manage to gobble up shots and freeze them better than any other team in the league. I'm not trying to take any credit away from Giguere and Hiller, but why are the Ducks' goalies consistantly able to freeze pucks when the shots hit them, while other goalies we face give up rebounds all over the place? I know their goalies are great position goalies and have a great coach, but something still seems off. All the other teams we play, the pucks don't get caught up in the goalies equipmnet as much. They bounce off, fumble, rebound out to the side, etc, just like they do with Ozzie at times. With the Ducks, any shot above 6 inches just ends up in the goaltenders blanket of a jersey. I don't get why the Ducks have this advantage over the rest of the league and nothing is done about it. I got to say, it's nice to watch the Wings play Chicago and Pittsburgh because I know there's a chance of the play continuing for more than 30 seconds at a time because the goaltender isn't going to swallow every puck fired at him. Does anyone know anymore about this? please delete this thread.... like wtf? not trying to be mean but it just makes us look bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Donaldjr2448 43 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Absolutely they are cheating ... just the other day, on the 9th hole, Hiller hit two balls in the water but didn't take the penalty, and Giggy is notorious for carrying extra clubs. Great Answer!! I about pissed myself!! FOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUURRRRRR! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Redmond 15 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 another golden thread by jake ryan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 I thought Hiller actually gave up some pretty juicy rebounds that series -- it's just that Anaheim's defense collapses on net and is extremely good at clearing away those second chances. QFT and I mean... those were some veeery juicy rebounds which under a less stellar defense would lead to sure goals. the reason behind Ducks success according to me: string defense and good positioning of their goalies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 My local tv listings must be really screwed up. Who's Anaheim playing now? Are they on Versus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LidstromIsASuperhero 29 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Both Hiller and Giguere play a very similar style of netminding, heavily relying on a strong butterfly and being as big in the net as possible. They are both extremely good at gobbling up anything shot above their waist, and both have very good gloves. Hiller's rebound countrol in particular, however, is weak when shooting at his pads. Both of those goalies are susceptible to on-the-ice plays; shooting five hole, shooting for rebounds off the pads and looking for cross-crease passes which can be tapped in easily. Unfortunately, Anaheim's defense is very good at making sure that those rebounds are cleared and not dangerous and are almost always able to take away any easy cross-seamers. The playing styles of their goalies and their defense are intertwined and work beautifully together.. but when you interrupt their defense's ability to defend their goalie, then the weaknesses emerge. I actually remember high glove side being Giguere's biggest weakness. Otherwise I think you're spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 I actually remember high glove side being Giguere's biggest weakness. Otherwise I think you're spot on. That's possible, I haven't really seen much of Giguere in a year and a half or so. Hiller's glove gave me nightmares, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocket Queen 30 1 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Great Answer!! I about pissed myself!! FOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUURRRRRR! hahhahaha! Well played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuklz 15 Report post Posted May 31, 2009 Well I saw pucks being called dead after they went in the goal in game 3 so.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jocu 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2009 Two words: Francois Allaire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites