RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Of course it would be nice to have Datsuyk but it's pretty amazing that we are still taking it to Pittsburgh without him. . Now I see how nice it is to have a Hossa around, as much as the other AHL guys are doing great ... we need him out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 lol @ someone thinking if datsyuk could play that babcock would sit him out what a joke that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turretin 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 well then he was playing invisible... i mean he had the same impact in the first two games of the finals that he did against the Ducks and Hawks. he disappeared this post season (like he used to do in the past) granted it was probably the injury but still... we have way more depth and healthy players... Able-cake-eater is playing way better than Datsyuk has been this post season Invisible to whom? You? I would better all the money I can borrow that Datsyuk was NOT invisible to the opposing coach. No matter how much he wasn't producing, he is a player that the opposing coach is thinking about before and during the game. That is huge. Imagine him healthy right now. He hasn't scored since Columbus (fine). But, the question is "Will Datsyuk break out?" Now, Bylsma is worried about Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen . . . AND Datsyuk. He's thinking "How do I get my guys away from him and him. How do I keep them in check. How do I avoid letting Datsyuk get hot and start killing us." Players are more than just their point production. All that "regular season" you seem to be discounting, means the opposing coach is up late at night, and taking tums during the games. That pays huge dividends freeing up other players, and screwing with the rythm of another teams substitutions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 With the amount of games Dats has missed already, it's obvious that he's hurt pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised if he misses the rest of the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Invisible to whom? You? I would better all the money I can borrow that Datsyuk was NOT invisible to the opposing coach. No matter how much he wasn't producing, he is a player that the opposing coach is thinking about before and during the game. That is huge. Imagine him healthy right now. He hasn't scored since Columbus (fine). But, the question is "Will Datsyuk break out?" Now, Bylsma is worried about Zetterberg, Hossa, Franzen . . . AND Datsyuk. He's thinking "How do I get my guys away from him and him. How do I keep them in check. How do I avoid letting Datsyuk get hot and start killing us." Players are more than just their point production. All that "regular season" you seem to be discounting, means the opposing coach is up late at night, and taking tums during the games. That pays huge dividends freeing up other players, and screwing with the rythm of another teams substitutions. like i said, if datsyuk comes back and plays like he was the last few years then sure... if not everything is working just fine right now without him... the Wings don't miss him outwardly and we will continue on winning without him waiting for Datsyuk to breakout... i think many (not just me btw) were waiting for two series for that to happen...i think bylsma isn't too concerned about it either. as said above he is hurt pretty bad, best let him rest up for next year... we are fine without his services... its not like we are playing a hard team for the cup Edited June 2, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 What are you crazy? If a Hart candidate is even 75% healthy you put him out there. Hank could use some help shutting down the dynamic duds...... even if Pavel cannot be a scoring force coming back his defense could surely help us.... Disagree. What's a more effective use of those 20-something minutes, assuming he'd even be able to play that much; A fresh Helm/Fil buzzing around out there, or Datsyuk at 75%? You can't play them all 14-25 mins per game. The minutes are going to be taken away from the guys that ARE healthy and contributing. If he's not ready, leave him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58Miles2Joe 12 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 hate to predict it, but I think Dats won't return to the line-up until game 5 with the series tied 2-2. But, he'll be the difference maker. Tea leaves, they work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCbrizz 2 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 i am not crazy and I stand by my words... I watched Rounds 2 and 3 where he was the useless out there. Hart candidate or not that was for the regular season... his offseason has been s***ty at best we are doing a great job keeping the penguins at bay. unless pavel is 100% he is not needed right now. no reason to shake up a winning roster. you are a complete idiot if you think Dats was invisible or useless before getting hurt. There is more to hockey than scoring goals. good god, that is dumber than 99% of the garbage i've been seeing on the pens boards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) DATSYUK UPDATE Hart Trophy finalist Pavel Datsyuk, who has missed five games with a foot injury, is likely to remain out of Detroit’s lineup in Game 3. Datsyuk was the NHL’s fourth-leading scorer with 97 points during the season. Babcock said the most recent exam of Datsyuk’s foot was encouraging. “Everything seems to be good,” Babcock said after the Red Wings arrived in Pittsburgh on Monday. “So now it’s a matter of when he’s ready.” http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=A...p&type=lgns Edited June 2, 2009 by 10 Minute Misconduct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GORM19 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=A...p&type=lgns i think game 5 i hope sooner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Wing 1,521 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Honestly, I don't think Pavel will be back this year. Just a hunch but I think we're holding out hope for something that isn't going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) you are a complete idiot if you think Dats was invisible or useless before getting hurt. There is more to hockey than scoring goals. good god, that is dumber than 99% of the garbage i've been seeing on the pens boards call me an idiot then...what has changed since we "lost" pavel to injury??? nothing is changing with Dats out.... we keep on rolling... Disagree. What's a more effective use of those 20-something minutes, assuming he'd even be able to play that much; A fresh Helm/Fil buzzing around out there, or Datsyuk at 75%? You can't play them all 14-25 mins per game. The minutes are going to be taken away from the guys that ARE healthy and contributing. If he's not ready, leave him out. yup yup Edited June 2, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Datsyuk will play. Even limited Datsyuk minutes are worth it. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 what has changed since we "lost" pavel to injury??? nothing is changing with Dats out.... we keep on rolling... I guess that Lidstrom guy is a hack too, seeing as the Wings were batting a thousand without him on board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 I guess that Lidstrom guy is a hack too, seeing as the Wings were batting a thousand without him on board. you said it, not me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 you said it, not me. Just usin' your logic, guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) Just usin' your logic, guy. my logic is fine... the replacements for Dats have been amazing soooo as he won't be 100% till next year most likely... leave him out he is already a no-go for game 3 and the series will end in game 4... no Dats=no Problem Edited June 2, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwashington2000 42 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 i am not crazy and I stand by my words... I watched Rounds 2 and 3 where he was the useless out there. Hart candidate or not that was for the regular season... his offseason has been s***ty at best we are doing a great job keeping the penguins at bay. unless pavel is 100% he is not needed right now. no reason to shake up a winning roster. You have no idea what you are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) You have no idea what you are talking about. nope none at all! Go Wings! with or without the dats... we rock! no one will even care when we are partying with the team down woodward on Monday! Edited June 2, 2009 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 I think he's done for good. They're already saying its not likely he'll play tomorrow. Dats can't possibly be close to recovery if they can assume he won't play 24 hours ahead of time. Even a week's worth of recovery at this point would put us right at the end of the series, and judging from all I've heard, it sounds like he needs at least that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Honestly, I don't think Pavel will be back this year. Just a hunch but I think we're holding out hope for something that isn't going to happen. It sure is starting to look that way. But Babcock is using every bit of a psychological advantage he can get out of it right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 Time will tell. I wouldn't be shocked to see him in a Game 5 at home. Hurt or not. A home clincher? Hurt or not, I think he'll find a way to get into that one to help insure we don't make the same mistake we did last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 I also predict that he'll be insane in next years playoffs. He's going to be pissed beyond measure the way this post-season has gone. He was strong on D and still an effective force, but the numbers don't show it and he's missed a lot now. He'll make up for it. I have no doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=A...p&type=lgns Awesome news, sounds like Datsyuk will play! We need him for game 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted June 2, 2009 my logic is fine... the replacements for Dats have been amazing soooo as he won't be 100% till next year most likely... leave him out he is already a no-go for game 3 and the series will end in game 4... no Dats=no Problem I don't really care about the goals. Dats was the best defensive forward we had 'til he went down. Maybe we can can win 1 out of 2 in Pit w/out him...we'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
