Heatley gives list of teams he'd accept trade to

[Pskov Wings Fan 71]

I can see Wild making a push for him. Since Gaborik is all but gone and new owner/GM/coach in place. Not sure he would be willing to go to Minneapolis. Other teams on the list were from bigger cities.

[Free_Candy 38]

When you are the BEST franchise in ANY of the four sports, have won 4 cups in 11 years and considered one of the last modern day dynasties, you get a few bragging rights.

Um, wow, I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said. But I'll leave it at that.

Edited June 23, 2009 by Free_Candy

[MadMan Mark 0]

Free Candy - I think Pens have many holes to fill and very limited resources to do it with. I can't take anything away from the Pens. . . they won, Wings did not (as much as I hate it). Perhaps Wings have a fire lit under them similar to 2007. Regardless, I think the Pens road back to the Finals will be much more difficult than the Wings. Whether Wings sign Hossa or not, they are in a win-win situation. . . I expect the Wings to be back in the Finals next year.

Lidstrom hoists the Cup in June 2010 and calls it a career.

[eva unit zero 271]

Potential trade situation:

To Ottawa:

D Brian Campbell

CHI 2nd

To Chicago:

LW Dany Heatley

Similar cap hits, so Chicago gets all of Khabibulin's cap hit to figure out their roster. Ottawa still has good forwards, and Campbell would provide a nice addition to the backend that they just don't have. Adding a Schubert or Campoli into the deal so Chicago gets a defenseman back as they only have a couple signed might also make a little sense.

[Free_Candy 38]

Free Candy - I think Pens have many holes to fill and very limited resources to do it with. I can't take anything away from the Pens. . . they won, Wings did not (as much as I hate it). Perhaps Wings have a fire lit under them similar to 2007. Regardless, I think the Pens road back to the Finals will be much more difficult than the Wings. Whether Wings sign Hossa or not, they are in a win-win situation. . . I expect the Wings to be back in the Finals next year.

Lidstrom hoists the Cup in June 2010 and calls it a career.

I'm going to take that with a grain of salt as not many Wings fans really gave the Pens much of a chance this year and people told us they were all garbage at playing hockey besides Crosby and Malkin to begin with, but you still have a right to your opinion and I'll respect it. I'm not going to let this get hijacked into a Wings/Pens debate and I think it's still too early to tell right now anyway. So um, how about that Heatley. I still say Rangers.

Edited June 23, 2009 by Free_Candy

[dragonballgtz 273]

I say he ends up in LA or NY.

[MadMan Mark 0]

I'm going to take that with a grain of salt as not many Wings fans really gave the Pens much of a chance this year and people told us they were all garbage besides Crosby and Malkin to begin with, but you still have a right to your opinion and I'll respect it. I'm not going to let this get hijacked into a Wings/Pens debate and I think it's still too early to tell right now anyway. So um, how about that Heatley. I still say Rangers.

Fair enough. . . I think he'll go to NYR. It's amazing the money they throw around year in/year out and never really improve. I thought they were going to be much better after their start last year, but they ended up underachieving as always. . . kind of like the Sharks

[Free_Candy 38]

You are exactly right about New York. They need offense, and Sather always seems to put out big contracts like that and could see them doing it for Heatley.

[Pat 44]

Get rid of stuart and bring in the heat.

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

I'd be curious to see how Heatley would do in a Red Wings uniform, but he's far too expensive.

[Cern 0]

I'm going to take that with a grain of salt as not many Wings fans really gave the Pens much of a chance this year and people told us they were all garbage at playing hockey besides Crosby and Malkin to begin with, but you still have a right to your opinion and I'll respect it. I'm not going to let this get hijacked into a Wings/Pens debate and I think it's still too early to tell right now anyway. So um, how about that Heatley. I still say Rangers.

I think the cap is giving Pittsburgh a lot of problems. There's a heck of a lot of money put into not very many players, and a lot of those secondary positions have been revolving doors the last two years. Obviously for whatever reasons the guys Pittsburgh picked up this year ended up being the right ones, but chances are a lot of them aren't going to be back. Even with Crosby and Malkin the team as a whole is put at a heck of a disadvantage if you have to rebuild line chemistry every offseason and trade deadline.

This would be an even bigger problem had Pittsburgh thrown 7 million of cap to Hossa. Honestly Pittsburgh should be thankful he didn't sign with them, the Penguins' cap situation would have been an absolute nightmare if he took the kind of money he was offered.

Though I'm thinking Heatley is going to New York as well, especially if the Sedins wind up getting themselves resigned with the Canucks. Rangers are desperately in need of some offense, even if that offense is cancer in the locker room.

[Dominator2005 558]

Haha!!!! He snubbed the Penguins. Another Burn ... Love it!

With that said, we could not afford his salary. Hope to see him go to the Bruins!

[RedFX 48]

Free-Candy: Are there any updates on what's going on in Pitt free-agency wise? Has there been any negotionations with guys like Scuderi, Guerin, or Fedotenko?

[LeftWinger 5,153]

No Penguins, must their awesome leadership!

[Snazzy 0]

Oh wow, yeah I'm sure the Penguins are just choking up about it. I know I sure am. I guess if it makes you feel better.

but...but...but how dare any elite player not want to be traded to the 'new dynasty of hockey'? First Hossa, now Heatly? What a bum! I'm sure the Penguins will pick up their marbles and find a new kid on the block that wants to play with them.

Rumor has it that Bertuzzi's available, but he may not want Pittsburgh either... he has standards, dammit! haha

Edited June 24, 2009 by Snazzy

[Free_Candy 38]

Never, ever have I said the Pens are the new dynasty of hockey.

Free-Candy: Are there any updates on what's going on in Pitt free-agency wise? Has there been any negotionations with guys like Scuderi, Guerin, or Fedotenko?

I have heard they were in talks with Guerin and Feds, haven't heard anything about Scuds.

[Snazzy 0]

Initially you quoted me, I never quoted you. But some Pens fans (and on pens forum) were boasting that Penguins are the new dynasty of the NHL because they won their first cup in 17 years. I would think that elite players would be flocking to the 'new dynasty'. Maybe heatedly only wants to go to a contending team like Hossa?

[Free_Candy 38]

Initially you quoted me, I never quoted you. But some Pens fans (and on pens forum) were boasting that Penguins are the new dynasty of the NHL because they won their first cup in 17 years. I would think that elite players would be flocking to the 'new dynasty'. Maybe heatedly only wants to go to a contending team like Hossa?

Or maybe you just read a bit too much into things and have a biased viewpoint because you obviously really hate the Penguins. I'm not going to discuss it further with you.

Edited June 24, 2009 by Free_Candy

[Motown4013 350]

Or maybe you're just reading a bit too much into it because you obviously really hate the Penguins. I'm not going to discuss it further with you.

Hence my comment to you earlier- you come in here in another thread and start saying that the Pens are like the Oil after winning one cup in the last 17 years? Hey, Tampa Bay won a cup....anything is possible but they are NOT the next hockey dynasty either

[Free_Candy 38]

Hence my comment to you earlier- you come in here in another thread and start saying that the Pens are like the Oil after winning one cup in the last 17 years? Hey, Tampa Bay won a cup....anything is possible but they are NOT the next hockey dynasty either

Are you sure you don't have me mixed up with someone else? Because I don't hold the opinion that the pens are new Oilers or necessarily a dynasty at all.

[Free_Candy 38]

Regarding another thread where someone asked if the Pens could be like the Oilers:

No.

I have a theory that it really takes the s*** to hit the fan for a team to muster up the emotional drive to even go back-to-back in this day and age. Last time this happened, we lost Badger and the Wings had Konstantinov's accident. The Pens franchise has really turned things around into something very positive that players buy into, and we have a good farm team -- so we probably won't fall apart and I have optimism for our future but by no means will there be a dynasty. Sorry to be another Pens fan invading your board, I do follow what goes on with Detroit, have lurked here a long time and really mean no ill will and wanted to jump in on some relevant discussions at hand so thanks for listening.

That is my opinion on the matter.

Edited June 24, 2009 by Free_Candy

[Snazzy 0]

Or maybe you just read a bit too much into things and have a biased viewpoint because you obviously really hate the Penguins. I'm not going to discuss it further with you.

Or maybe there was a thread on LGWs started by a Pen fan proclaiming the next "dynasty since the Oilers"... mhmmmm?

I don't hate or like Penguins, I'm indifferent towards them. The only team that I truly hate is the Ducks, and that's because they're easily the 2nd best team in the NHL behind Detroit, and because they beat the s*** out of us... which cost us the cup, again. Ducks have always pissed me off because they keep f-king up our victory!

Penguins are just a chump team in the east. I think of the Penguins in the same category as I think of Tamba Bay Lightning; both teams have been lucky enough to win the cup. That's hockey.

Edited June 24, 2009 by Snazzy

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Heaters probably going to NY or SJ.

And you guys are making yourself look like idiots. Free_Candy is actually one of, if not the best Pens fans on this forum. great66 is the one who proclaimed Pittsburgh are the new Oilers. Like I hate the ***** Pens fans too, but the lengths it's takin to on here is embarrasing. If the guy is up for having discussion about a hockey topic, why not? So he isnt a fan of the BEST TEAM IN ALL OF PRO SPORTS, oooh aahhh, he's here to talk hockey.

Back to Heatley, I dont really believe he's really a bad cancer, asking for a trade after signing that big deal makes him look like a jackass, but if his cap hit were 4 mil, I'd take him over Hossa any day of the week.

[Free_Candy 38]

Thanks Det. #1 fan. A lot of that's my fault because I had a "WTF" moment earlier in the thread but should have just left it alone.

I really don't blame Heatley for wanting a trade at all. Look at Jarkko, the place made him lose his marbles for good and he started biting people.

Edited June 24, 2009 by Free_Candy

[gcom007 1,465]

I'm not saying I think it'll happen, but this is the kind of shocking deal that I half-expect Holland to pull off at this point. I mean, think about last year. Before Saturday morning (I think it was...), the idea of us landing Hossa seemed absurd. Hell, even Holland wasn't even considering it. Hossa called them and made the deal happen!

But again, I'm not betting on it.

But honestly, if it happens, I'm most likely not going to be too upset. He's a force to be reckoned with and will only be better with guys like Lids, Dats and Z around to complement him.

Detroit is not like other cities and teams. It's a different environment here in every way and we've got enough character in the room to keep egos or issues in check. Every guy in the league knows the score with this team. If he wasn't willing to play by our rules, he wouldn't bother putting Detroit on his list. I think character issues aren't near the worry that some of you think they are. Furthermore, the Wings win a lot. When you're winning a lot, you tend to have less issues in general. I'm just saying...