Glubki 17 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Where else can Hossa go? What are his options in terms of best situation to win and get fair compensation? Washington could make him a nice offer if they can find a trade for Theodore. Vancouver could easily afford him as well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Vancouver has enough problems trying to re-sign the Sedin Twins, Luongo, and Sundin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 I think that if Montreal cannot get the Sedin Twins they could go after Hossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glubki 17 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) Vancouver has enough problems trying to re-sign the Sedin Twins, Luongo, and Sundin. If they want both of the twins and Sedin decides to return. I don't think Vancouver is going to offer Sedin nearly as much money this time around and the Sedin twins at 6M apiece is a steep price as well. Edited June 27, 2009 by Glubki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Ville Leino $950,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Andreas Lilja $1,250,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 ...this is the roster (after bringing up Helm/Howard) if we assume Lilja can play, giving Leino a modest raise to $950,000 and bringing up Abdelkader and using Meech primarily as the 13th forward/extra Defensman. This officially (according to capgeek) leaves us $1,529,347 to round out our 4 lines with someone. This automatically removes Hudler from our roster since he is going to get more than $1.5m, same with Sammy. It also reflects losing all of our UFA's. WIth Kopecky's agent saying he is testing the market, we may as well say goodbye to him. So who would come here and who would you offer $1m to $1.5m to? *-Notice this also reflects Lebda as the 7th defensman, so we are covered for a short term injury if a forward or D-man goes down. Meech/Lebda Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Rosenrosen 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Washington could make him a nice offer if they can find a trade for Theodore. Vancouver could easily afford him as well... Chicago isn't out of the question either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Give Conk a raise to 1M, leaves roughly 1.25M. Pick up Vernon Fiddler or Stephan Yelle, either for 1M. Could possibly get Travis Moen for that money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glubki 17 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Chicago isn't out of the question either. Possible but I don't think Chicago is capable of adding a long term big money contract with the Campbell albatross and both Kane and Toews needing to be re-signed after next year. There are about 7-8 teams or so who can afford him without making major moves and probably another 5 that would dump salary to get him. Phoenix, L.A., Minnesota, Montreal, Dallas, Florida and Buffalo all have room but the question was best chance of winning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flip 5 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) Dallas would be interesting. Hossa and Morrow were teammates and roommates with the Portland Winter Hawks the year they won the Memorial Cup. Edited June 27, 2009 by flip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Here's a good deal for Hossa. If he retires at 35, it's almost $6m average. If he keeps on after, it's a bit less. If he retires at 34, it's $6m average. Overall cap hit? $3.75m. 09-10: $8 10-11: $6.5 11-12: $6.5 12-13: $5 13-14: $2.5 14-15: $1 15-16: $1 16-17: $1 Retire at 35? Are you serious? Why would he retire at 35. Who else retired at 35? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) Chicago isn't out of the question either. Chicago has roughly $15M available under the Cap. They need to sign 5 forwards, 3 defensmen and a goalie. Don't think they are going to use $6 to sign Hossa. Besides $6M is a Detroit discount, hes worth WAY more on the market, so is Chicago going to get into a bidding war and sign him for $8M? Especially with the two kids needing contracts next season? Doubt it... Edited June 27, 2009 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 If the Wings sign Hossa to a 10 year 40 million dollar contract they need 2 forwards signed at negative one million dollars. If they sign him to the 6 million he wants then they need two forwards at negative three million dollars, which means they need to trade 2 players and not just 1. IF Hossa is coming back it will be at no more then 5 million. That being said I think Hossa is gone... but: Leino-Datsyuk-Homer Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary Hudler-Filppula-Helm Maltby-Draper-Some cheap Signing isn't bad up front. Leino on the first line? Oh for f***'s sake where did you come up with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Leino is the cheap 3/4 line signing. Splitting Z and Dats simply doesn't do either justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 I'd like to know if he's gonna stay in Detroit or not, before I start thinking about where else he will go. I want Hossa here in Detroit and I think we can do it if he is willing to take less money. I know he's a great player and I think he fits in well here with the Red Wings but he has to be willing to lower his price. After all he's on a team that has great players like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Lidstrom, Rafalski so it's not like he is going to be the main star here in Detroit. It would be different if we were looking for one big star to build on but this team is stacked so he needs to learn that quick decide what he wants more $$$$ or a Stanley Cup Championship Ring. I tell you one thing if I'm going to remember a player I'm going to remember Championships before I remember big dollars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grwingfan 21 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Could Columbus make a play for Hossa? They have 17m in cap space and they want someone to team with Nash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#18 the _Hoss_ 2 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Marian has to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 I hope youre right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glubki 17 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Could Columbus make a play for Hossa? They have 17m in cap space and they want someone to team with Nash. Sure - so could Nashville or New Jersey or all the teams listed in previos posts. If he hits the open market he is going to have no shortage of suitors. It all depends on where he wants to go and only he knows that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Sure - so could Nashville or New Jersey or all the teams listed in previos posts. If he hits the open market he is going to have no shortage of suitors. It all depends on where he wants to go and only he knows that. Exactly. My thinking is that there is no other organization out there that can provide the intangibles that make the Red Wings a great organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Marian has to stay. Yeah, or you will be mad about the name you choose to sign up with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted June 27, 2009 Yeah, or you will be mad about the name you choose to sign up with? Nah, Maltby isn't going anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
russianswede919293 95 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Leino on the first line? Oh for f***'s sake where did you come up with that? I came up with that because I think that I would rather have him play with Datsyuk then Filppula because that would make the third line be Hudler-Helm-Leino I am more comfortable with Hudler-Filppula-Helm and also feel Leino would make a good linemate for Datsyuk... I came up with it in terms of wanting to continue to have 3 balanced scoring lines like we did this year... In your language that the f***s sake that I came up with it... I didn't pull it out of my ass in case you were wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 If we play the psychological game, if Hossa really wants 6 mill a year, either he or Holland or both are going to have to find a way to save face, to compromise so that both parties look "good". I have no idea where else he would go because like others here have said who can offer him the same kinds of perks that the Wings can? However, right now I don't see him staying in Detroit. But then I'm not Kenny Holland. And we can all be grateful for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 If we sign Hossa for $6 Mill a season for however many seasons, who can we realistically keep and still have a good team? Would we be able to sign any other free agent that won't take a huge salary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Stuff... And he's actually making money because there are still people stupid enough to believe him. ...Stuff This was the point of my post. Since he gets some things right, people keep coming back to him. He knows this and capitalizes on this. You want to say he has serious mental issues then so be it, but I see an entrepreneur who sells a product that people just eat up. I think he's complete garbage, but the guy is good at what he does, there is no denying that. And even if he does have mental issues, there is no need to dis him for that. look at Rain Man, he bankrupted a Casino and he was a ratard! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
