Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 I'm not sure if Ericsson can be considered for the award anymore. To be eligible for the award, a player cannot have played more than 25 games in any single preceding season nor in six or more games in each of any two preceding seasons in any major professional league. The player must not be older than 26 years before September 15 of the season in which he is eligible. ( Source ) Hell if any Red Wing can get a nomination then I'll be more than happy. They'll have joined a list that includes Stevie, Nicky and Zetty. Yeah, he's ineligible by that description because he played more than 6 games two seasons in a row. I'd be happy if people were talking about him being in that group of high end rookies but for that technicality anyway. Helm's got the same problem if I remember correctly, not that he's the type of player that wins a Calder anyway (since the voters are looking for points, points and points). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This is a great sign for the DRW. Holland is a god to get him at league minimum. As of right now, what does the roster look like for next season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This is a great sign for the DRW. Holland is a god to get him at league minimum. As of right now, what does the roster look like for next season? FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk Henrik Zetterberg Johan Franzen Valtteri Filppula Daniel Cleary Tomas Holmstrom Kris Draper Kirk Maltby Ville Leino Darren Helm Patrick Eaves Justin Abdelkader* DEFENSE Nicklas Lidstrom Brian Rafalski Brad Stuart Niklas Kronwall Andreas Lilja Jonathan Ericsson Brett Lebda* Derek Meech* GOALIES Chris Osgood Jimmy Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This is a great sign for the DRW. Holland is a god to get him at league minimum. As of right now, what does the roster look like for next season? Assuming Holmstrom plays like 07-08 Holmstrom and not the guy we saw in 08-09: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Cleary/Leino ?UFA?-Helm-Leino/Cleary Eaves-Draper-Maltby The third line is definitely a downgrade from last year when we had a 60pt guy on our third, but hopefully the UFA added can pot something like 20 goals. Let's say Holland convinces Prospal to sign for a cool 2 million a season: Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Franzen-Filppula-Prospal Leino-Helm-Cleary Eaves-Draper-Maltby Those lines look much better. Now the top two are more balanced, the third is dangerous while providing excellent defense/checking and the fourth has a kid to provide it with some more zip. In this scenario Leino gives the third great set of hands that can distribute the puck, Cleary provides finishing ability and Helm causes chaos by hitting everything that isn't wearing red. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 i can't stop smiling awesome signing Kenny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Exactly the type of signing I was hoping for for one of the open spots. Young enough to have a chance to catch on with the team, solid potential, and a rock bottom price tag. Sounds like he could fill in on the top lines in an emergency as well. I won't expect much from him, but hope to be surprised. Now if we could get Prospal at a bargain price I'd be happy. Other than that I'd rather stay away from a top-6 guy. I'd like to see another cheap grinder (or two, really). Someone that can hit, annoy the other team's star players for a change. I think that would add more to the team than a scorer. And if we can save something for the trade deadline just in case, all the better. And yeah, I like to watch a good donnybrook now and then, so a fighter would be nice as long as they can play a little too. Of course is Tanguay or Sundin want to sign for <$2 mil I wouldn't complain... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladiator 116 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This is a great sign for the DRW. Holland is a god to get him at league minimum. As of right now, what does the roster look like for next season? I wanna say league minimum is $650,00. His contract was bought out by the Canes so that contributed to league minimum. I would say that looking at bought out players is a brilliant strategy when trying to pull a roster together that is up against the cap. Now if Kenny can pull off a Zherdev or Prospal deal.... Starting to look forward to the new season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 I wanna say league minimum is $650,00. His contract was bought out by the Canes so that contributed to league minimum. I would say that looking at bought out players is a brilliant strategy when trying to pull a roster together that is up against the cap. Now if Kenny can pull off a Zherdev or Prospal deal.... Starting to look forward to the new season. League minimum is still $500,000 for the next 2 season, then 525,000 for the 11-12 season. Buyouts do not count toward that. The third line is definitely a downgrade from last year when we had a 60pt guy on our third, but hopefully the UFA added can pot something like 20 goals. Remember though, half of Happy's points came on the PP, so the burden of replacing his production is likely to be distributed to more than one player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Remember though, half of Happy's points came on the PP, so the burden of replacing his production is likely to be distributed to more than one player. Assuming the 2nd PP is as good as it was last year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) One thing everyone has to keep in mind is that the Wings are not going to use up all the current cap space they have signing another forward. They will want to keep some in reserve for injuries and trades. You can't go in to the season with no cap space, because you have no flexibility. Edited August 5, 2009 by CenterIce Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Leino-Helm-Cleary This line would be an upgrade over the Sammy-Hudler line. Even if they dont score as many points. With Helmer and Clears out there, theyd be much tougher to play against which to me, for a third and forth line, is more important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) One thing everyone has to keep in mind is that the Wings are not going to use up all the current cap space they have signing another forward. They will want to keep some in reserve for injuries and trades. You can't go in to the season with no cap space, because you have no flexibility. You are right, but keep in mind Holland probably still intends to trade a defenseman (I don't see this signing affecting his previous statement of this) before training camp, he could also sign another forward relatively cheap and still come off (depending on the contract) with a million or so to spare. Add to that the possibility of Lilja going on LTIR and we may have a little wiggle room. My bet is though he signs another forward like we've been expecting, and then trades a defenseman for picks to offset the cost of the new player. Then again, I'm not sure if any team would give up a pick (even a low one) for the likes of Lebda or Meech. Edited August 5, 2009 by VM1138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGKEIB 32 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 You are right, but keep in mind Holland probably still intends to trade a defenseman (I don't see this signing affecting his previous statement of this) before training camp, he could also sign another forward relatively cheap and still come off (depending on the contract) with a million or so to spare. Add to that the possibility of Lilja going on LTIR and we may have a little wiggle room. My bet is though he signs another forward like we've been expecting, and then trades a defenseman for picks to offset the cost of the new player. Then again, I'm not sure if any team would give up a pick (even a low one) for the likes of Lebda or Meech. If Lilja goes on LTIR, Holland won't trade a defenseman. Lidström-Rafalski Stuart-Kronwall Lebda-Ericsson Meech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This line would be an upgrade over the Sammy-Hudler line. Even if they dont score as many points. With Helmer and Clears out there, theyd be much tougher to play against which to me, for a third and forth line, is more important. What he said. Third lines aren't supposed to be about having 60 pt scorers on them. They're supposed to be your line that goes out crashes and bangs and makes the other teams defenseman look over their shoulders all game. Scoring isn't the first thing you should build a third line around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 What he said. Third lines aren't supposed to be about having 60 pt scorers on them. They're supposed to be your line that goes out crashes and bangs and makes the other teams defenseman look over their shoulders all game. Scoring isn't the first thing you should build a third line around. Although that's not something to be opposed if they were to produce offensively while bringing the crash and bang style of play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Although that's not something to be opposed if they were to produce offensively while bringing the crash and bang style of play. No thats a huge plus if you have 60 point scorers on your third line but in the cap world its not likely. Energy is what you look for first from the third line and solid defensive play. Any scoring on top of that is great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Another Dan Cleary project. Lets hope it works out, though Id prefer to try and rebuild Mark Bell now that the wings locked eaves up for $500,000 they can afford bell too!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 now that the wings locked eaves up for $500,000 they can afford bell too!!!! For another 500k he could provide us grit and some scoring, and he'd be an improvement on the 4th line. He does it all, fights, huge hits, Red Wings kinda guy stick on the ice in front of the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 (edited) For the league minimum.... bring on Bell as a project too. To make it an even better deal, see if he would he take a two-way contract? Giving Holland some flexibility with cap room. Hell you don't even need to trade a defenseman if Lilja starts on the LTIR... and you could probably still nab Prospal. (...or Bert, or Grier, or whomever... not that we all could ever agree on it.) Then everyone (finesse and grit folk alike) are happy, no? EDIT: For clarity and further thought. (If I could cease switching words around in sentences, and my fingers could keep up with my brain, I'd have far fewer edits.) Edited August 5, 2009 by e_prime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Not reading through 9 pages.. But i'll give my 0.02$ I am rather stoked about this signing, The kid has skill that is for sure, He is also very young at 25. He's got some grit to him. Not a bruiser by any means but he will throw a hit and take a hit. I can see him and Leino fighting for 2nd line minutes. Overall I am pleased with this signing as long as Abdelkader still gets a solid look for an NHL job, and we look at bringing in a chippy 4th liner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WalleyeHockey09 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This is a joke, right?? Patrick Eaves?? Serious?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 This is a joke, right?? Patrick Eaves?? Serious?? Your post is a joke right?? It's not like this signing was a "Hossa" replacement. This was a depth signing to help out the 3rd and 4th lines. Not to mention it was for only 500k! How is this a bad deal? Eaves is young, he will be another project player (ala Cleary) he's a good PK'er, and we got him dirt cheap. Excellent signing by Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 What he said. Third lines aren't supposed to be about having 60 pt scorers on them. They're supposed to be your line that goes out crashes and bangs and makes the other teams defenseman look over their shoulders all game. Scoring isn't the first thing you should build a third line around. Having a third line that can score is what saved us when Datsyuk and Hossa went dry in the playoffs. Of course I want a third line that crashes and bangs, but having one guy on that line that exchanges crashing and banging for top six scoring talent makes the Wings a deeper, harder team to play against. That was my point about the loss of Hudler. The top six now have a smaller margin of error. Most teams couldn't make it to the finals with two of their top three forwards playing through a slump. That's only possible when guys like Hudler and Sammy are on your 3rd and 4th line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peleshob 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 Having a third line that can score is what saved us when Datsyuk and Hossa went dry in the playoffs. Of course I want a third line that crashes and bangs, but having one guy on that line that exchanges crashing and banging for top six scoring talent makes the Wings a deeper, harder team to play against. That was my point about the loss of Hudler. The top six now have a smaller margin of error. Most teams couldn't make it to the finals with two of their top three forwards playing through a slump. That's only possible when guys like Hudler and Sammy are on your 3rd and 4th line. I agree with this, and that's why I think adding one more guy (Prospal) is so important. It'd give the third line a look of Leino-Helm-Homer/Cleary. While the line isn't the best offensive threat, it's still a decent one. I'm holding out for this Prospal thing big time. It'd put me at total ease until the season starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted August 5, 2009 I agree with this, and that's why I think adding one more guy (Prospal) is so important. It'd give the third line a look of Leino-Helm-Homer/Cleary. While the line isn't the best offensive threat, it's still a decent one. I'm holding out for this Prospal thing big time. It'd put me at total ease until the season starts. They'll add another guy who can put up 40 pts. The question is whether the fans will like the name or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
