Guest mindfly Report post Posted September 30, 2009 http://hockey.expressen.se/Nyheter/1.17260...for-mats-sundin I wached the whole pressconference and it really looked like he made the right descision... being able to retire like this and not due to injuries must be a relief. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Never liked Sundin so I'm glad he's gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenova0 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Never liked Sundin so I'm glad he's gone. What's not to like, other than he was a Leaf? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Thank God. Enough with the " Am I going to play?" or " Am I not going to play?" bulls%#!. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 I'm sad to see him go, but it's time. I wish he would have gotten a cup though, no one deserves it more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amberlynn25 9 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 sad to see him go. He was a great player. Sucks he never got a Cup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 I had no problem with him until the last couple years. If he would have pulled that crap again and in December saying he was gonna go play with the Pens or the Bruins or some crap I would have slapped him. Great player, too bad he never got a Cup. But turning down the trade here because he "didn't want to be a rental player and you should be with a team for the whole season" and then to turn around and basically be that with the Canucks made me lose a little respect for him. Along with how he was negotiating with the Habs and then on July 2nd comes out and says he's not sure if he is gonna play or not. That might have stopped the Habs from going after other players. Anyways.... will not focusing on the negative. Enjoy your retirement Mats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Very good player awarded legend status by the Toronto-centric hockey media. I guess that's not completely fair...being the all-time leading scorer for a franchise as storied as the Leafs is nothing to sneeze at. Obviously, I'm conflicted about what his legacy should be. Mostly though, I'm just glad he figured it out, even if it was a year too late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtomicPunk 296 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Can we send a link to this retirement ceremony to Peter Forsberg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Why is it such a crime to be unsure if you wanna retire or not? People said this s*** about Favre too. It's their carrer for Christ sakes, give 'em a little latitude. Nobody wants to jump into admitting they're too old head first. Sheesh... esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 To bad you never won it all. I like TSN's question, "Is Mats Sundin a Hall of Famer?" I personally say no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Sundin is almost as certain as Lidstrom to enter the hall of fame... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Sundin is almost as certain as Lidstrom to enter the hall of fame... No, he's not. Sundin never won a cup, nor did he ever win a major personal trophy during his career in the NHL. He only had a single hundred point season, and never scored 50 goals. He may make it to the hall some day, but I doubt he will be a first balloter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) ~1350 career points, point-per-game player, hall of fame isn't only about NHL as far as im concerned he was probably the best player on international level. Edited September 30, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Not sure what kind of HOF class he's up against (he won't beat out Joe for the number one spot) but as long as it's not as strong as this year's he should get in. His NHL totals and international experience speak for themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jke 0 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 No, he's not. Sundin never won a cup, nor did he ever win a major personal trophy during his career in the NHL. He only had a single hundred point season, and never scored 50 goals. He may make it to the hall some day, but I doubt he will be a first balloter. And what team was he playing for again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Re: HHOF. He may have to learn the meaning of the word "patience" the way this man did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 And what team was he playing for again? The Toronto Maple Leafs, who put together some pretty decent teams in the late 90s and early 2000s. It was only until 3 or 4 years ago that they tanked. I've heard that excuse WAY too many times. I am not saying he wont ever get the the HHOF - the Toronto media would never stand for that. I was replying to mindfly's post claiming he deserves the call from the Hall just as soon as Lidstrom - that is ludicrous. I see Sundin and Lindros as very comparable to get in the Hall, though Lindros' personal stats and achievements where much more significant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 Thanks for the memories Sudden! The goals, the victories, the gold medals! Swedish captain forever... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waitahochiminute 2 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 A player very worthy of a cup IMO. Just never got on the right team i suppose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) Interesting debate over whether or not he is an all-star. No major individual awards, no cups., but was an 9 time all star. An Olympic Gold and 3 World Championships, but the latter is viewed in N America (quite rightly IMO) as a 2nd tier tournament. However he played for the Leafs and given their media power-base, that may put him over the top. He's a certainty to have his number retired by Toronto, but for me its a toss of the coin if he gets in the HOF. The comparison to Lindros is interesting. For a period of several years Lindros was THE dominant player in the NHL, something Sundin never was, but Sundin had a much longer career giving him superior totals. Edited October 1, 2009 by Nev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
