FinWing 26 Report post Posted November 15, 2009 Zetterberg - C Datsyuk - A Cleary - A Rafalski will probably get a letter if he's still here after Draper and Lidstrom. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted November 15, 2009 When they gave Hank that huge contract, that was basically a not-so-obvious way of saying that he would be the successor to Nick's captaincy once Nick retires. They haven't come right out and said anything, but they didn't when it was nearing the time for Steve to retire, either. It was just understood that Nick would be captain and that was that. The team has a lot of faith in Hank and his talent/abilities, and I think by giving him such a large, essentially for-life contract, they were making their intentions known. With Pavs, I think he'll be what Nick was for so many seasons. 2nd in command, and Hank's right hand man. The other A will probably go to either Franzen or Cleary, depending on who makes that next big impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfanatic4alltime 32 Report post Posted November 15, 2009 Zetterberg the C thats obvious imho; the A's are gonna probably be Datsyuk and the other A i really like that Rafalski answer but ill say Kronner. My dark horse is Helm for an A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted November 16, 2009 The C to Datsyuk after Z retires? Datsyuk is two years older than Z and Z is in better physical shape for the long-term. If anything, not only will Z retire after Dats, but Z will play a career three or four years longer than Dats. The next Wings captain after Z, if in the system right now, is probably Abdelkader. But that all depends on when Z retires. If Z retires at the end of his contract, it will be 2021; Abby would be 34 at that point, and the C would more than likely go to a younger player who is one of the team's better players and an on-ice leader. I'll repeat myself. I would speculate plans are Z, then Datsyuk after Z retires, if still playing (if only for the honor). Team Leadership Lidstrom is to Yzerman as Datsyuk is to Zetterberg -- keep in mind Yzerman could have played longer if not due to injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Drapes is looking better this year than he has in a long time. Playing with 2 kids that are also very fast is doing good things for his game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwame_Kilpatrick 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 z is probably going to be the captain just because he is the most level headed, datsyuk is a good leader but he is more of a joker and idk if he can keep enough of a straight face to be the captain. filpulla just puts in a lot of effort so i would like to see him as an assistant, kronwall is also legitimate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 C - Zetterberg A's - Datsyuk, Cleary/Rafalski rotation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Yea Z will be the next captain with Dats and Rafalski getting the A's. When Rafalski hangs 'em up or goes to another team, Kronwall get's the A. Many of you are saying Datsyuk and Cleary will get the A's, but normally at least one defense man wears a letter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lookalive07 251 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 It's pretty safe to say that Z will get the C when Lidstrom has had his fill of the game. Hopefully one more Cup is under his belt by then, eh? Then Datsyuk will remain an Alternate, and as for the next definite A, if Franzen gets healthy and puts up some huge points after his knee injury is over, I could see him getting one. Then after Zetterberg retires, I could see Helmer or someone taking the C if they're still with us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 The C to Datsyuk after Z retires? Datsyuk is two years older than Z and Z is in better physical shape for the long-term. If anything, not only will Z retire after Dats, but Z will play a career three or four years longer than Dats. The next Wings captain after Z, if in the system right now, is probably Abdelkader. But that all depends on when Z retires. If Z retires at the end of his contract, it will be 2021; Abby would be 34 at that point, and the C would more than likely go to a younger player who is one of the team's better players and an on-ice leader. Not to pick a fight, but Datsyuk is going to have a much longer career than Zetterberg. Zetterberg is much more beat up. Picking who will be Captain 10-13 years from now is a little silly, considering how many players are going to come and go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Drapes is looking better this year than he has in a long time. Playing with 2 kids that are also very fast is doing good things for his game. Yeah, to be completely honest, I'm thinking that both Draper and Lids get contract offers (2 years max, low $) after their current contracts are up. Both look to be in phenomenal physical condition this year, and both are playing great hockey. I think Lids missing a puck at the blue line yesterday was the first time in a loooong time that I've seen him make a mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 I think Lids missing a puck at the blue line yesterday was the first time in a loooong time that I've seen him make a mistake. Yep, then he recovered with a phenomenal play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) After reading this entire thread, I can't belive some of the fans didn't know we had the "A" rotating between three players! Anyway, they are going to have an "A" on defense as well as forward, so look for this w/ Kronwall taking the "A" from Rafi once he's done. "C" - Zetterberg "A" - Datsyuk "A" - Rafalski Edited November 16, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Yep, then he recovered with a phenomenal play Yeah, but that's expected. He's the perfect defenseman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Not to pick a fight, but Datsyuk is going to have a much longer career than Zetterberg. Zetterberg is much more beat up. Datsyuk has had his share of injuries as well. Datsyuk has missed 48 regular season games in his career, Zetterberg has missed 40. If you take away Datsyuk's rookie year, Dats has missed 36 to Z's 40. That's basically even. And Dats has played 8 fewer playoff games than Zetterberg excluding the 2002 playoffs, which were Dats' rookie year and the year before Z joined the club. So Datsyuk has actually missed more games than Zetterberg due to injury. Which would suggest that Zetterberg is not more beat up than Datsyuk, especially considering the age advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted November 16, 2009 there needs to be a "cross checks to zetterberg's back" stat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 there needs to be a "cross checks to the back" stat Fixed that for you, and Homer would own everyone's face in that stat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted November 16, 2009 the player who receives the most will be awarded the Holmstrom Trophy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learn2LuvIt 246 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Lebda = C He's not doing anything else. Might as well put the Notre Dame background to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Say after this season Lidstrom and Draper decide to retire, who do you think will become the new captain and who will be the two assistant captains? I would say Zetterberg would be captain, with Datsyuk and Kronwall as the assistants. What are your opinions?? Yeah I'll agree with that Z as the C with Dats and Kronny as the A's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Datsyuk has had his share of injuries as well. Datsyuk has missed 48 regular season games in his career, Zetterberg has missed 40. If you take away Datsyuk's rookie year, Dats has missed 36 to Z's 40. That's basically even. And Dats has played 8 fewer playoff games than Zetterberg excluding the 2002 playoffs, which were Dats' rookie year and the year before Z joined the club. So Datsyuk has actually missed more games than Zetterberg due to injury. Which would suggest that Zetterberg is not more beat up than Datsyuk, especially considering the age advantage. It's not the frequency of injury, it's the fact that Zetterberg has a recurring back problem that tends to end careers more quickly than the ocassional foot problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 Yeah, to be completely honest, I'm thinking that both Draper and Lids get contract offers (2 years max, low $) after their current contracts are up. Both look to be in phenomenal physical condition this year, and both are playing great hockey. I think Lids missing a puck at the blue line yesterday was the first time in a loooong time that I've seen him make a mistake. I do agree that at this rate both Lidstrom and Draper will be offered contracts for next season. The thing is that since both players are 35+ years old, from my udnerstanding, the way it works is that if they were to retire after one season the cap hit remains in effect due to their age. In other words, any player over 35 who signs a multi year deal and retires, their salary does not come off the books until the contract expires. This is obviously done so that a player like Lidstrom doesn't sign a 2 year deal worth say $8M with the contract heavily front loaded ($7M in year one and $1M in year two) so that he can collect his cash and then retire. I think you'll see both Lidstrom and Draper signing one year deals and they'll both reevaluate after each season from here on out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingsfan72 198 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) We do not have any good "leader" figures on our team besides those two right now, but I could see Cleary or Kronner getting it. Most people seem to think Zetterberg will replace Lids, so im not sure on that. Zetterberg was pretty much guaranteed the "C" the season Lidstrom was named captian. I dont have a link or anything but I very clearly remember Holland saying the Zetterberg was going to be the for sure captain of the wings when Lids hangs em up. Edited November 16, 2009 by Wingsfan72 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 When Lids retires he will be in the rafters,the next captain will more than likley be Zets now as for Drapes his number will not be retired but I do see a banner called the grind line and Drapes Macs and Malts names will be on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 16, 2009 We do not have any good "leader" figures on our team besides those two right now, but I could see Cleary or Kronner getting it. Most people seem to think Zetterberg will replace Lids, so im not sure on that. Really? We hear nothing but about how Cleary, Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Draper, Rafalski, Datsyuk, and yes, even Kronwall lead this team. Those are the core leaders from various articles I've read over the years. Any one of them would make a great Captain, but Zetterberg is basically outranking them all at the moment. This team is stacked with leaders. I'd say out of that group the top dogs are Lidstrom, Zetterberg and Draper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
