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11/25 GDT: Thrashers 2 at Red Wings 0

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Homer has 12 points, is tied for the team lead in goals and is a +5. Bert has 9 points and is a -5 in the same number of games. Bert's playing on a line with Datsyuk. Homer may not be lighting the world on fire, but he carried the team early when nobody else was scoring.

Bertuzzi needs to finish.

Bertuzzi is a secondary scorer on the second PP as is normally a 3rd liner if it wasn't for injuries, Holmstrom is a primary scorer on the first PP. Sorry I expect Holmstrom to outplay Bertuzzi. Which is something he hasn't done on this stretch of bad hockey by the Wing's..

Homer played great the first couple weeks of the season, and I'm not expecting that same production. But I'm expecting something from him the past 6 games.

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I'm singling out Homer because I hold him to a higher standard. He has played most of the game with Zetterberg-Datsyuk, I just cannot find excuses for him. He has been struggling the past 6 games, and as one of our only proven goalscorers he needs to snap out of it and help carry this team right now. If he isn't scoring, he isn't doing anything else.

He started hot, but he's not right now. He's not talented enough to be a 40 goal guy, so he's not going to be scoring all the time. Whatever your expectations are of him, I think they're a tad too high, but he has contributed.

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so in the last 3 home games:

1 goal scored against the stars backup goaltender

1 goal scored against the panthers backup goaltender

shutout by a team ranking 21st in GAA

not sure why anyone would pay to see this team right now.

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Bertuzzi is a secondary scorer on the second PP as is normally a 3rd liner if it wasn't for injuries, Holmstrom is a primary scorer on the first PP. Sorry I expect Holmstrom to outplay Bertuzzi. Which is something he hasn't done on this stretch of bad hockey by the Wing's..

Homer played great the first couple weeks of the season, and I'm not expecting that same production. But I'm expecting something from him the past 6 games.

Homer's role is increased because of the Franzen injury. Bert's a winger playing with one of the premier setup men in the NHL.

I can't fault you for backing Bertuzzi; I've always liked him a lot myself. But he's been impossibly bad at finishing, isn't laying the body and commits turnovers right and left. He's just not playing well and it needs to change if the Wings are going to survive these injuries.

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Can't say I'm surprised.... We simply don't have the skill. Its a transition year, plain and simple. And yeah, the goalies we've been playing against aren't that amazing....we just make them seem that way.

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What a greasy s***show that was. Next game, switch up Homer and Bertuzzi with different lines, sit Leino and put Eaves back in and hopefully he has a fire lit under his ass (hopefully)

Good effort by Jimmy tonight, definately proving he's NHL ready.

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shutout by a great defensive team..lol. the wings take the worst shots ive ever seen, and holmstrom/rafalski/bertuzzi look awful still.

btw the commentators were no different than any other, guess you guys want to take anger out on someone

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Homer's role is increased because of the Franzen injury. Bert's a winger playing with one of the premier setup men in the NHL.

I can't fault you for backing Bertuzzi; I've always liked him a lot myself. But he's been impossibly bad at finishing, isn't laying the body and commits turnovers right and left. He's just not playing well and it needs to change if the Wings are going to survive these injuries.

Bertuzzi is 4th in terms of foward hits on the team. He is laying the body, and making chances ableit he does make bad decisions with the puck and isn't playing well himself(but that happens when you have a 3rd liner playing trying to fill a role beyond his capabliities). Homer's role is much more important to the team than Bertuzzi is right now. Homer is playing with the 2 best players on the team and is not producing lately.

I believe this team is much better off if Holmstrom plays to his potential rather than if Bertuzzi plays to his. That's all I'm saying, obviously I'd hope both of them start playing better.

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awesome game wings :D

bertuzzi is killing datsyuk

Really? 'Cause Datsyuk spent plenty of time with Holmstrom and Zetterberg tonight and didn't do a ******* THING. People need to get off this "Bertuzzi is making us lose" kick, it's not even realistic at this point.

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shutout by a great defensive team..lol. the wings take the worst shots ive ever seen, and holmstrom/rafalski/bertuzzi look awful still.

btw the commentators were no different than any other, guess you guys want to take anger out on someone

Ok, now I know you weren't watching the same game the rest of us were. The Atlanta guys were all kinds of terrible. Sorry, but that's just a fact.

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Really? 'Cause Datsyuk spent plenty of time with Holmstrom and Zetterberg tonight and didn't do a ******* THING. People need to get off this "Bertuzzi is making us lose" kick, it's not even realistic at this point.

Seriously. It's getting ridiculous, sure he isnt playing well, but it's not all his fault.

I'd rather be a grit slappie then a frickin negative nancy on these boards anyday.

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micky and murph saying how were not doing bad and been 7-2-1 or whatever the record is

but why does it feel like were getting our ass kicked every game

They're still only 6 points out of the division lead, miraculously it seems, although that is subject to change pending tonight's game. They haven't been doing their part to gain ground on them, though, but it's still early. Obviously they need to get their act together and start scoring or they might be in real trouble.

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Homer's role is much more important to the team than Bertuzzi is right now.

I don't know that I agree with this. The lack of scoring around the goal mouth is a concern, so yes, Homer is the forward who isn't converting in a lot of situations where the puck is loose in the crease. But the Wings also need a sniper, which is not what Homer has ever been, but something Bert has excelled at in the past. The Wings have other guys who can muck it up around the net and poke in rebounds, like Cleary. But they're very short of snipers. This is why Bert's shortcomings are so glaring.

But hey, I'm with you. I cheer for the team, not the player. Just put the puck in the net already, boys.

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November 23rd, 2009, 6:38 of the 2nd period. The last time a player in the Detroit Red Wings franchise will ever score a goal. Where did it all go wrong? What have we done to deserve this, cruel fates?

jeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzusssssss!

Eat lots of turkey, taters and gravy tomorrow. You're bound to feel better. :ph34r::hehe:

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