uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 LMAO, you just don't get the point do you? He did more in his 4 games then Ritola did in the 2 games he was up with Detroit last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 He did more in his 4 games then Ritola did in the 2 games he was up with Detroit last year.Yeah, but the potential was the main point. Newbury won't develop nowhere near as much as Ritola does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Say hello to the 27th Red Wings skater this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedatsyukian 7 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Ritola has the potential to be an important piece of the team where as chances are that Newbury is a career Ahler. Ritola - 22 Newbury - 27 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 He did more in his 4 games then Ritola did in the 2 games he was up with Detroit last year. wow, what an awful argument... ritola played 2 games in the spring of 2008. at the time he turned 21 the day before the first game. he played a grand total of 11 minutes and 33 seconds... at the time he had approximately 50 pro games under his belt. contrast that with newbury this year. he has 50 nhl games, is in his 7th pro season, and has hundreds of ahl games under his belt. he has gotten at least 7 and a half minutes in every game he has been in this year. tell me again how it is at all fair to compare the 2 short callups these two have had??? if you need a definition of an apples to oranges comparison, this is it. as has been mentioned before, its about the future. newbury has pretty much become an ahl player with only limited callup potential. ritola is still a young player that has not even gotten the chance to prove himself in the nhl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 I must be part of the minority that is excited to see Ritola in the Wing'd wheel during this injury infested opportunity. I doubt either player will be a game changer on Wednesday anyhow. Just nice to give the kid some opportunity to taste the NHL. It'll help remind him what he's working so hard for. Let him have a little nibble of it, it'll do him some good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Well, it's technically news. One 4th line jobber for another. World keeps on spinnin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Ritola may have a bigger upside, but that doesn't mean you dont earn your spot on the roster. Regardless of the upside that Ritola may have over Newbury. Atleast Newbs produces and has an effect on the game. In Grand Rapids he put up more points and gave the team a bit more of a back bone, same deal here in Detroit. Kenny didn't sign Newbury because he thought he could help out GR, He signed him incase Detroit had some injury problems. Newbury isn't an enforcer, He isn't even that much of a fighter but he sticks up for himself and teammates, while putting up some impressive numbers in the NHL and not looking out of place at all here in the NHL centering May and Malts. My point is that, Ritola hasn't earned his spot on this team, or even earn a look on this roster for that matter. Mursak has vastly improved and is doing a phenomenal job. Jeremy Williams, as much as I am not a fan of him, Atleast he shoots the puck and isn't shy about doing so. Why not give Emmerton a shot, because under the same merit he has earned it just as much as Ritola. If Ritola cant hack it as a scoring line forward in the AHL, What is he supposed to do in the NHL? Be invisible on the 3rd and 4th lines? If you are a 3rd and 4th liner at least have a purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedatsyukian 7 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 (edited) If I'm not mistaken I believe that next year is Ritola's contract year so they're probably trying to see what exactly they have in him before they handle that this off-season. He's an investment and they want to make sure that their investment isn't wasted. Edited December 21, 2009 by thedatsyukian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Ken Holland= Genius when there was no cap. Now a floundering and Clueless GM with a CAP. What an absolute moron. What about the Cup year before last or getting to game 7 of the SCF last year. Since the lockout never less than 50 wins or 112 points and always first in their division. Then because of an unreal amount of injuries and a hard cap year he is floundering and clueless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFlag85 33 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 No need to stress..Newbury will get another shot, I think he's earned that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Newbury has the speed of a solid NHLer. If he doesn't get another shot or called up during playoffs I'll be upset. At this point he'll be better then Maltby I honestly think and could have a shot at the roster next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 not understanding all the love for Newberry. He is a borderline 4th line grinder (which is probably why everyone loves him). He actually looked pretty lost in the defensive zone at times. He has an upside in that his game is really simple and hes willing to take a hit to make a play (like a 4th liner should), but we have PLENTY of those type of players in the lineup right now. We need someone with some*(even a little) bit of hands around the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blankrap 9 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 I don't understand how this thread reached four pages. Give the kid a chance. Don't worry, someone else will be injured and then they will have to call newbury back up again. Ken Holland is a genius. Babcock is a pimp. Redwings have 9 players out and are at < .500. How can you blame Holland for all the injuries? He isn't feeding these people enough milk? Sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casey 145 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 If I recall, Filp and Leino had some good chemistry when they were together. The kid has talent, he just needs to get stronger on the puck and not be afraid to get some dirt on his face. So will Filpulla be back for Wednesday's game, then? I do wonder how much of Leino's problems is a language barrier. Without Fil, he's the only Finn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted December 21, 2009 I do wonder how much of Leino's problems is a language barrier. Without Fil, he's the only Finn. ive seen him on TV his english is fine. his problem is that he is as dumb as bag of pucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 2 Leinos, fun. At the very least he's got talent, but he wont do anything for us. I really wish Fil was healthy, I may not be the biggest fan of him but he works hard and is talented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 not understanding all the love for Newberry. He is a borderline 4th line grinder (which is probably why everyone loves him). He actually looked pretty lost in the defensive zone at times. He has an upside in that his game is really simple and hes willing to take a hit to make a play (like a 4th liner should), but we have PLENTY of those type of players in the lineup right now. We need someone with some*(even a little) bit of hands around the net. I think everyone liked how Newbury was playing because he was throwing some big hits and played with some fire. He'll also stick up for teammates whichthis team lacks outside of May. Newbury is fun to watch out there and has the ability to score with his grit. Ritola is a softer player that hasn't been scoring as much as Newbury. Thats why I like him at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 not understanding all the love for Newberry. He is a borderline 4th line grinder (which is probably why everyone loves him). He actually looked pretty lost in the defensive zone at times. He has an upside in that his game is really simple and hes willing to take a hit to make a play (like a 4th liner should), but we have PLENTY of those type of players in the lineup right now. We need someone with some*(even a little) bit of hands around the net. Newberry is big. He has grit. He fights. He can possibly "enforce". That makes the enforcer slappies on here all warm and fuzzy. And sneding him down and calling him Ritola clearly shows that Ken Holland is a conspiracy theorist and clearly has it in for people that might play phsyical or be enforcers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (*end sarcasm*) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 I think everyone liked how Newbury was playing because he was throwing some big hits and played with some fire. He'll also stick up for teammates whichthis team lacks outside of May. Newbury is fun to watch out there and has the ability to score with his grit. Ritola is a softer player that hasn't been scoring as much as Newbury. Thats why I like him at least. Newbury was not noticeable like May has been. No fights, some hits, but he did look lost and seemed snake-bit out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 Newbury was not noticeable like May has been. No fights, some hits, but he did look lost and seemed snake-bit out there. Yeah but May has had way more games and as the games went on for Newbury he looked more in place. And southern wings fan I'm assuming you think I'm an enforcer slappy so I'll answer for "our kind ". Newbury isn't that big and rarely fights but the fact is that he is capable. He also does have a bit of a nose for the net. He has earned a call up more then Ritola thats the problem, he does hit and he can fight and will score occasionally. Thats more then Ritola will do. Its a part of hockey and this season it seems like you soft euro lovers have been around less talking about how useless enforcers are now that we're dressing a fairly tough line up. You're in the minority. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 (edited) Yeah but May has had way more games and as the games went on for Newbury he looked more in place. And southern wings fan I'm assuming you think I'm an enforcer slappy so I'll answer for "our kind ". Newbury isn't that big and rarely fights but the fact is that he is capable. He also does have a bit of a nose for the net. He has earned a call up more then Ritola thats the problem, he does hit and he can fight and will score occasionally. Thats more then Ritola will do. Its a part of hockey and this season it seems like you soft euro lovers have been around less talking about how useless enforcers are now that we're dressing a fairly tough line up. You're in the minority. It's called sarcasm. And who are these soft euro lovers that have been saying that enforcers are completely useless? I'd love to see some post examples from the past or some things members have exactly said about this. Who are they? I think plenty people realize enforcers have their place in hockey. You are generalizing just as much as I am, if not worse. Edited December 22, 2009 by SouthernWingsFan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 It's called sarcasm. And who are these soft euro lovers that have been saying that enforcers are completely useless? I'd love to see some post examples from the past or some things members have exactly said about this. Who are they? I think plenty people realize enforcers have their place in hockey. You are generalizing just as much as I am, if not worse. There are tonnes of soft euro lovers on this site who call people like mewho are advocates of hard nosed, tough hockey knuckle draggers, grit slappies or tell posters like me to go cheer for Philly. This season noone has really said much since we're dressing an enforcer and all the people who were saying that ealrier have all kind of disappeared. Funny how that happened. To say that people weren't ridiculing guys like me for wanting a tougher line up is just ridiculous. This past summer if you brought up the topic of enforcer or even a tougher player you didn't hear the end of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 4 pages discussing a lateral (4th liner) swap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted December 22, 2009 4 pages discussing a lateral (4th liner) swap? Yeah, that's about par for the course around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
