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Are you guys doctors? I didn't think so . Franzen et al are world-class athletes. They stay in shape for a living... 4 months is thus very much possible. All these guys do is exercise & get treatment...

Expecting a regular person to get back to 100/100 in 4 months is extremely rare!!!

Besides the procedure of creating a new ligament takes a VERY long time to finalize. Even franzen knows he'll be100/100 weeks from now

...You're also aware of the fact that the doctors don't control the universe too right?

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:scared: I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED... wait what?

Heh, I was at the game. Forsberg was taking some serious physical abuse all game and I wasn't exactly surprised to see him going to the lockerroom early in the 3rd.

Seems every player in the SEL wants a piece of him.

Supposedly it was just a dislocated finger though so he is saying he might miss 1 game at most.

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So, apparently its the Red Wings' obligation to inform the Swedish National program of any and all updates of a guy that's contracted and paid to play for Detroit? That's ridiculous.

Ever since Franzen had surgery they've been saying there's a fair chance he could not only return for the Olympic games, but even a few NHL contests before the break. It's their own fault for not adding Franzen to the provisional roster in December given the progress he was *knowingly and reportedly* making.

Cry me a river!

:thumbup: Agreed.

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I don't want to bring pessimism to such a sweet sounding thread. But this kind of sounds to me like they're rushing him back. Why not send him to GR for a couple of games? The guy hasn't used his skating muscles in 4 months!

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I think its great how Franzen sides with the Wings. I don't know why, it's just nice to see a guy loyal to Detroit. I think this season has really made us all realize how important Franzen has become to this team. I can't wait!

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I don't want to bring pessimism to such a sweet sounding thread. But this kind of sounds to me like they're rushing him back. Why not send him to GR for a couple of games? The guy hasn't used his skating muscles in 4 months!

Wel, he has been skating, I think. Just not hard probably.

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I think he should go to GR for a conditioning stint as well. JUst 1 game on Tuesday would work, since GR is here in Austin that night. What a night that would be if Lils and Mule were playing. :D

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I don't want to bring pessimism to such a sweet sounding thread. But this kind of sounds to me like they're rushing him back. Why not send him to GR for a couple of games? The guy hasn't used his skating muscles in 4 months!

I think he should go to GR for a conditioning stint as well. JUst 1 game on Tuesday would work, since GR is here in Austin that night. What a night that would be if Lils and Mule were playing. :D

They were going to but realized it wouldn't be fair for everybody else :D

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What will LGW do come tueday if this team continue to suck and lose in embarassing ways?.... Meltdown? I can see it coming but I hope Mule can have a massive surreal impact.

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More drama around franzen, the docs are mad at Tre Kronor...

Use google translator it gives you a rough translation:

http://hockey.expressen.se/sport/os2010/is...-mot-tre-kronor

Detroit's doctor raging against Three Crowns

LOS ANGELES / NEW YORK / LONDON. Johan Franzén poked from the Olympic squad - without anyone asking how the star forward was feeling.

The announcement may now Detroit to attack Tre Kronor and question why not, Bengt-Ake Gustafsson called and asked.

- I am surprised that I have not heard of Sweden. It was just to call. It sounds in my ears as they try to blame from themselves, "says Dr. William Clancy, who operated Franzen on behalf of Detroit.

This has happened in FRANZÉN affair:

October 8 Franzen damaging his left knee against Chicago and the diagnosis reads four month injury absence.

November 18 Franzen hits Bengt-Ake, USA. Their last contact before the Olympic squad charged.

December 21 Forward Star of celebrating Christmas in Sweden - and go ice skating during the holidays in their local area.

December 27 Olympic squad charged. Franzen is not in spite of the federation captain can replace him until February 15.

January 28 Detroit doctor Franzen cleared to play when he is ready.

February 1 announcement: Franzen makes comeback February 9 against St. Louis. February 2 tells us that he can be ready for the Olympics even though he only played three games before.

February 3, Bengt-Ake said he made the right not picked by Franzen.

February 4 Franzen explains that he could play in the Olympics. Rebounds against Mats Näslund statement that Detroit pushed him into a comeback.

The circus - and the fraction - around Johan Franzén continues.

SPORT-Expressen has in two days examining petningen of the forward who has done most goals of all in the last two Stanley Cup finals.

The audit revealed that the federation captain, Bengt-Ake Gustafsson was talking to Franzen last time in mid-November, and never talked to either Franzen, Detroit, or the physician in charge closer to 27 December, when the Olympic squad nailed.

Followed Waldebäck advice

Management relied instead on Three Kronors doctor Bjorn Waldebäck general perception of a cruciate ligament surgery takes six months to heal.

In Detroit, however, has a completely different idea of how long it takes to heal:

- I heard that someone there in Sweden, I do not know who said that "he (Franzen) can not possibly be ready after three months." That person is obviously a total ignorance of

Dr. William Clancy

fundamental science when it comes to the reconstructions of this kind, "said William Clancy in SPORT-Expressen reach him at the clinic in Alabama, shortly after he completed a surgery.

"Operate hundreds"

He states that he has operated on numerous athletes, including many hockey players:

- I've done it on hundreds of athletes, and we have been lucky too: We have never encountered a case of graft. This does not mean that it will not happen, but the result is the same after three months and after six months, "says Clancy.

Had expected a call

He lists the names of Chris Chelios, Vladimir Molochov, Sandis Ozolinsh and Niklas Kronwall all, according to him, played hockey in the three months after surgery.

- I can give you a list of every player who came back after three months using this method.

He argues that there had been enough of a conversation we had, Tre Kronor, learned of the short healing time - and been able to charge Franzen for the Olympics.

- I am surprised that I have not heard of Sweden. I mean, I know so many there and how many times have I been at the World Championships and met them? It was just to call, "said Clancy, who was the U.S. national team doctors throughout the 1990s and much later in the 2000s.

Franzen self care

Johan Franzén is cautious in his statements, but agree that it was known that the healing does not need to take six months:

- Niklas Kronwall was of course a similar cruciate ligament surgery in autumn 2005 and played three games before he was called up as reserve for the Turin Olympics. He injured himself two weeks before me, if we look to the healing time.

You mean Tre Kronor should have learned to like this injury could take less time to heal than the six months they have said?

- So you could say.

"Nothing to do with Detroit '

Bengt-Ake Gustafsson turn away from this criticism. He argues that he could not have a closer contact with someone in Detroit:

- Detroit? They, we have nothing to do. We may of course lend him a few hours, or have had to borrow him if you say so. That we can not argue with them either, "said Bengt-Ake.

Bjorn Waldebäck maintains its view that three months is too short, and believe it may also jeopardize the player's future.

- This is an aggressive rehabilitation. That in such a short time, a cruciate ligament and running, one hundred percent and not likely cross the band's healing, the question I still am.

"Shall be to him"

William Clancy again:

- I have to wonder who said that? I know most orthopedic groups in Sweden, there is a clever bunch at the Karolinska, among other things. I am surprised that they did not know better in the Swedish national team.

Bjorn Waldebäck:

- The order to stand for him. To regard me as a total ignorant. I have operated this for many years in Sweden, I do 60-70 operations per year. I think it has worked well, the methods and operations I have done.

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What will LGW do come tueday if this team continue to suck and lose in embarassing ways?.... Meltdown? I can see it coming but I hope Mule can have a massive surreal impact.

If everyone is expecting everything to turn around pretty well over night they are gonna be disappointed. I say there will be a game or two where the time is on a high with everyone pretty well back, but then there will be the period of getting back in game shape and getting the chemistry back that will follow.

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And so the Mule returns.

I went to try and find the thread from the 2006 off-season where I was posting that Franzen should be a decent 3rd liner, and showed defensive prowess with a knack for some decent puck handling.

Someone retorted with the idea that "Franzen had stone hands". Stone hands. That comment has stuck with me for years regarding a player that I saw something in. I have held on to it - pointing it out to anyone that would listen (usually my hockey insane G/F and friends that would give me the time of day). I could not find the thread. Maybe it is just me, but looking back I love to see something in our players at different times in the beginning of their careers that will translate into NHL success.

Call it self-gratification, but look at the history of this forum. In 2006 I was calling that Zata would be a Conn-Smythe winner in his career.

In the off-season of 2006 I was saying that I saw decent to above average puck handling ability in Franzen and he should not be traded for a jar of mayonnaise.

To look back makes me feel better. The way this season has been going, how can it not? For me, I am exuberant for the return of a fantastic, beyond expectations, game breaking, clutch, power forward.

But, being a realist on the other hand- he will not be a player that you remove the cellophane from on Christmas day. He will show his ability, but getting back into the game will take time. He has missed a lot and gone through a lot. I for one will not jump trolley when he is not the second coming of the player we all wish he was. We need to understand as a fan base that it will take time, it will be hard, it will be something that he needs to work through - and there will be mistakes.

If we can resoundly call for the return of the turn-over-at-critical-time gaffe machine Lilly-Pads with unequivocal rose-colored pride, then we can hash out the expectations as fans surrounding the return of a pure sniper who needs some time to catch his breath and develop chemistry.

LGW.

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