RockyMountainWingGal 108 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 Quoted for truth. It was quite apparent that the Sharks were the hungrier team in the previous series. This series, the Hawks are the hungrier team thats for sure. Niemi is doing his part to get his team to the cup finals. I thought that Chicago was going to have a hard time in the playoffs, but Niemi is erasing all doubts. Because their goal was to beat the Red Wings - apparently that was their Cup. They played a weak Avs team in the first round that probably shouldn't have even been in the POs, and that was still a close series. The opportunity was there for the Wings to win vs. the Sharks but for all the reasons listed above we didn't do it. The Sharks big test was beating the Red Wings and they passed. Now their usual no shows have gone back to being ghosts (Thornton). I think they looked past the Hawks and thought this wouldn't be as hard as it is. The Wings have had great success vs. Q- coached teams. Apparently that didn't rub off on McLellan. But more likely this cast of characters the Sharks have are just not winners in the end. A rare WCF appearance is overachieving for this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 (edited) For clarification purposes you probably would want to keep it to how the league does it. Just sayin. Well, if I said we beat Chicago in the Finals, that would sound really weird. The Sharks aren't choking, the Hawks are just a better team. They have the speed that the Sharks can't keep up with, even though they did a pretty good job at it yesterday. And I agree with Supafly about the no one cares about the Sharks. If you go to San Jose right now, you will see 80 percent of the population wearing Shark jerseys. Overtime goal= not Nabokov's fault, that was Heatley's man, he lost him somehow, he was brought in to score goals, he has only score freaking effing 2 goals these playoffs. I dont' know whats wrong with him, injured or not. Shark fans aren't complaining about the reffing, I don't know why we would complain about the reffing. THe only thing that we have complained is when versus\nbc orgasms about the hawks second after second. This is the first time since I have watched sports to mute a intermission, thats how biased it has been. I can tell when Marleau scores, they're like mehhh, whatever they scored. When the hawks score, YEAHHHHHHHH OUR TEAMMMM SCOREEEEDDDDDDD. Bias much, i think so. Hmmm, sounds like a certain ******* whom Heatley was once traded for. Edited May 22, 2010 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Branton87 77 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 Shark fans aren't complaining about the reffing, I don't know why we would complain about the reffing. THe only thing that we have complained is when versus\nbc orgasms about the hawks second after second. This is the first time since I have watched sports to mute a intermission, thats how biased it has been. Try being a Red Wings fan. EVERY SINGLE TEAM the Red Wings play against on those channels is who they favor. The only time I can tolerate even listening to the announcers on Versus or NBC is when McCarty is there to actually stick up for the Red Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicaldatsyuk 6 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 i would much rather have the sharks win then the hawks but the chances are looking slim. i absolutely cant stand the hawks, hopefully one of the eastern teams can pull out an upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 Shark fans aren't complaining about the reffing, I don't know why we would complain about the reffing. I don't know why you guys would complain about the reffing. Your guys are getting way more PP time than the Hawks, and got a long ass 5 on 3 last night too. This must be some record for the most time on 5 on 3 advantage you guys are getting for a single team in a single postseason. The difference in the 2 rounds is that the sharks are not getting as many PPs this time (still more than the Hawks), and the Hawks were able to kill the penalties, wings were not. The funny thing is the Sharks were one of the most penalized teams in the regular season, and now they are angels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingooni_19 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 SJ Sharks A.K.A. CHOKERS 1 Branton87 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 Well, if I said we beat Chicago in the Finals, that would sound really weird. Hmmm, sounds like a certain ******* whom Heatley was once traded for. Who, ironically has also only scored 2 goals this playoff season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted May 22, 2010 Bigger lol @ someone saying San Jose people don't care. The Sharks are the only major professional sports team San Jose has. The city is all about the Sharks. They were all about the Sharks when they stank up the place. The city supports that team like few cities can. I'm not saying it's the top of the heap, but as far as unified city support, it's way up there. 10th largest city in the US by population and 1 major pro team? Yeah it will have a f***ton of people that care. That's an industry term...it means a lot. There's no question SJ is one of the successes in the Southern American expansion. As much as I want to see the Sharks and Thornton lose again, I'll stick up for SJ as a good hockey market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 Who, ironically has also only scored 2 goals this playoff season Indeed. As much as I wish he was here and hope he gets his name engraved on the cup, Holland made the right choice in picking Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 Who, ironically has also only scored 2 goals this playoff season The Datsyuk-Hossa pairing was a flop on the ice under intense playoff pressure. You had both guys trying to do too much whenever they got the puck. More often than not both guys would lose the puck too quickly after fighting so hard to get it back. Plus you had Homer with his multitude of injuries who couldn't do the things he normally does so well. It didn't look like that much of a threat and in hindsight it wasn't. On paper Hossa is a perfect fit. On the ice... Well, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 My comments on the sharks are this (and some may not like it, but these are my opinions): The sharks are totally getting exposed for what they are. They have a lot of offensive talent. The end. Their defense is not great and Nabokov is way overrated. The Hawks look to me like the Wings of old, when the WIngs were hungry and younger. The Hawks are playing like a complete team. Their dominant defense is making up for any of Niemi's rookie mistakes, if any, that occur here and there. I think if the Wings had played with more heart, they'd have beaten SJ. Even when we were down 2-9 to SJ i was not worried whatsoever. I thought we'd come back. But we didnt' play with passion and desire to win. Probably more a victim of too much success recently than anything else. Not to mention, I still blame the penalty calls (mainly 5 on 3s) at absolutely crucial times in the games. Were the calls actually penalties by the book? Some were, yes. But the league usually does not call those at that point in games and to put teams down 5 on 3. It's absolutely a joke. But anyways, The refs tried to do it again last night in the hawks game and once again it almost cost the Hawks the game. It's a joke. The Hawks look scary good right now. I think they will go on to win the cup, thought that after they started to handle Vancouver with ease. The East is a full notch below the level of the West in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 I'm really curious to see how the Hawks will play against the Flyers defense. It'll be interesting to see how Toews, Kane and Hossa clash with a Pronger-led defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSupafly 50 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 My comments on the sharks are this (and some may not like it, but these are my opinions): The sharks are totally getting exposed for what they are. They have a lot of offensive talent. The end. Their defense is not great and Nabokov is way overrated. The Hawks look to me like the Wings of old, when the WIngs were hungry and younger. The Hawks are playing like a complete team. Their dominant defense is making up for any of Niemi's rookie mistakes, if any, that occur here and there. I agree. The weakness of the Sharks is the D, and Nabby just isn't an elite goaltender. This Blackhawks team has the skill and speed combination, along with offensive depth to expose this. All teams will have a weakness usually...and this is due to the salary cap, but the Blackhawks have the good fortune (and good drafting) to have all star talent still on the books at entry level/rookie contract prices. This is why they have the complete team they have. They will start to lose parts after this season as they can't afford to keep everyone...but that's what we're looking at now. The Hawks are quite scary good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 I agree. The weakness of the Sharks is the D, and Nabby just isn't an elite goaltender. This Blackhawks team has the skill and speed combination, along with offensive depth to expose this. All teams will have a weakness usually...and this is due to the salary cap, but the Blackhawks have the good fortune (and good drafting) to have all star talent still on the books at entry level/rookie contract prices. This is why they have the complete team they have. They will start to lose parts after this season as they can't afford to keep everyone...but that's what we're looking at now. The Hawks are quite scary good. If that's what parity will do in the NHL then I am against it. I was against it anyways, but maybe that was because we had such a great collection of talent here and I hated to have it all go away. But nothing is more entertaining and exciting than watching a collection of superstars play together on the ice. Instead now we will get watered down teams, players we've never heard of, teams like Montreal making it to the finals ( I dont' dislike montreal, but the TEAM they have is not a stanley cup team, where's their talent? They are winning because they are playing very opportunistically to make up for the lack of talent they have, who wants to watch that crap). I'd much rather watch the west teams. Most of the western teams are very entertaining. SJ, Vancouver, Detroit, Chicago, all excellent teams with a lot of fire power. In hockey, to me it loses a lot of its luster after you get away from the talent laden teams and drop to the average ones. It doesn't seem to work in the NHL like it works in Football or even in the NBA for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 The Hawks are so good it scares me. I dont think we can beat them ever. and they will win the cup this year hands down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 23, 2010 I agree. The weakness of the Sharks is the D, and Nabby just isn't an elite goaltender. This Blackhawks team has the skill and speed combination, along with offensive depth to expose this. All teams will have a weakness usually...and this is due to the salary cap, but the Blackhawks have the good fortune (and good drafting) to have all star talent still on the books at entry level/rookie contract prices. This is why they have the complete team they have. They will start to lose parts after this season as they can't afford to keep everyone...but that's what we're looking at now. The Hawks are quite scary good. The Sharks barely beat the Wings, and what made the difference was the horrendous officiating. The Sharks did not deserve to be in the WCF, and I'd glad to see them getting the pasting that they deserve. 2 SiLkK19 and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 The Sharks barely beat the Wings, and what made the difference was the horrendous officiating. The Sharks did not deserve to be in the WCF, and I'd glad to see them getting the pasting that they deserve. A 5 game series does not count as "barely". If that was the case, Detroit "barely" beat Chicago last playoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 A 5 game series does not count as "barely". If that was the case, Detroit "barely" beat Chicago last playoff. I agree with this totally.We just didn't have it this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 The Sharks barely beat the Wings, and what made the difference was the horrendous officiating. The Sharks did not deserve to be in the WCF, and I'd glad to see them getting the pasting that they deserve. Stop whining Crymson. The Sharks deserved to win the series more than the Wings did. Yeah they got breaks, but the Wings were 0-4 in one goal games in this series. We played like crap and you suggest that we deserved to win? What a blind homer post on your part. Wings didn't deserve s*** for the way they played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 The Hawks are so good it scares me. I dont think we can beat them ever. and they will win the cup this year hands down Yep, never again. Especially when they have enough cap room in a few years to sign Bozo the Clown, Rockie, and Bullwinkle (if that). 1 lookalive07 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) Stop whining Crymson. The Sharks deserved to win the series more than the Wings did. Yeah they got breaks, but the Wings were 0-4 in one goal games in this series. We played like crap and you suggest that we deserved to win? What a blind homer post on your part. Wings didn't deserve s*** for the way they played. And the Sharks didn't deserve s*** for all the flagrant, shameless diving and embellishment they engaged in. In the end, a broken stick and a whole lot of deception of the officials was what won the series for the Sharks. Sure, the Wings played like garbage much of the time, which is significant in my point: the fact that the Sharks needed so much help from the refs (plus some other very lucky breaks and lucky bounces) to just barely beat a team that was playing well below its potential really demonstrates just how mediocre a team the Sharks actually are; and so does the dissection they're currently undergoing at the hands of the Blackhawks. Edited May 23, 2010 by Crymson 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 (edited) I think in more cases than not, it is completely justified that people blame the refs too much. In the case of what happened in the 2nd round this year, I don't think it's justified to blow off the referees. Even though we were outshot and outhustled at times, and losing faceoffs, we still were hangin in there. The clear difference was the 5 on 3s that the Sharks got. They had 3 or 4 in the series. All of the 5 on 3s came at crucial times in the game. We were winning by a goal and they give the sharks a 5 on 3 in the 3rd period. WE were tied and they give the sharks a 5 on 3 in the 3rd period. It's ridiculous. I'm sorry. If you want to argue whether the calls that put the WIngs down were legit, we can. I will even agree that by the book, many of them were. But you also have to look at how the league calls penalties. And in that series, the league was clearly one sided and went away from letting things go while on 5 on 4 and decided to call rather chincy stuff to put the wings down several times 5 on 3, in crucial times. I honestly do think that was the difference in the series. That won san jose 2 games out of the 5. I still think had Detroit managed to come through SJ, we were probably not beating Chicago because they're way more hungry than Detroit was this year. You can't win it every year, and eventually you'll lose the high level of desire required. It's not whining to point these things out. It's amazing how few penalties SJ has taken. It's hard to believe, actually. San Jose is gettin completely exposed by Chicago. I view CHicago as the Wings of old, they have all the pieces. I swear, they're modeled completely like Detroit used to be, fast, talented, has the screen player in Buffoggaly googaly...a goalie that they're getting a lot out of for very cheap, solid defense...it's like looking in a mirror. Edited May 23, 2010 by Firehawk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 And the Sharks didn't deserve s*** for all the flagrant, shameless diving and embellishment they engaged in. In the end, a broken stick and a whole lot of deception of the officials was what won the series for the Sharks. Sure, the Wings played like garbage much of the time, which is significant in my point: the fact that the Sharks needed so much help from the refs (plus some other very lucky breaks and lucky bounces) to just barely beat a team that was playing well below its potential really demonstrates just how mediocre a team the Sharks actually are; and so does the dissection they're currently undergoing at the hands of the Blackhawks. Chicago has been jobbed a lot in this series also, but they've made it not matter based on the way they played. Like I've said a million times around here, Detroit just couldn't overcome any adversity in the series. You have to be able to do that in spite of the officiating. That's why Chicago is going to the Finals this year and we're not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 23, 2010 Chicago has been jobbed a lot in this series also, but they've made it not matter based on the way they played. Like I've said a million times around here, Detroit just couldn't overcome any adversity in the series. You have to be able to do that in spite of the officiating. That's why Chicago is going to the Finals this year and we're not. Statistically, the jobbing doesn't even compare to what the Wings faced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 23, 2010 Statistically, the jobbing doesn't even compare to what the Wings faced. Maybe, but the better team is winning this series. The better team won the last series too. It's hard to swallow that the Sharks are better than us, but it's true. This season they're better than us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
