titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 last years standings... there were only 5 teams with less points(wins as a tie break) then them, so they're 6th in the order prior to Nov 1st Ah, but what about after Nov 1st? Is the order then accessible to people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 that sucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Anyone else hope that one of these days Stevie "returns the favor"? How about Hedman for Ericsson? Haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Ah, but what about after Nov 1st? Is the order then accessible to people? After Nov 1st, it goes off of current standings... wow, didn't take you ANY time to update that picture, did it? haha Keep in mind too, the jury is still VERY up in the air about Leino and Quincy needed back surgery and was waived the year we won a Stanley Cup... Just be glad we have the problem of worrying about who we'll keep, as opposed to who we need... In Holland We Trust. Edited October 5, 2010 by stevkrause 1 The Secret reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 After Nov 1st, it goes off of current standings... Sorry I didn't know. That simple huh? Last time I asked about it after the Leino trade people acted like it was only accessible to management. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Maltby can stay in Grand Rapids. Take Draper instead. I'm disappointed Ritola is gone, i was sooo looking forward to watching him in the big league this year (in red and white) I'm with you... This is one time when I wish that Kenny would have taken a gamble. Keep Ritola and get rid of either Miller or Eaves... ideally it would be get rid of Draper but. Sucks to see him snagged for nothing and it will suck even worse if he goes on to do well as Leino did. I know not everyone will fit our system like Leino failed to do but they should have at least gotten Ritola some more real NHL game experience. Bummer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Can't win 'em all. I'm not too fond of Yzerman lately, though. Mofo is going to be motivated as hell and take those "he didn't take the puck to net" criticisms to heart. I'm not saying he'll be a point machine. I just feel some of us will be like, "Damn... We sure could have used that guy". Especially if someone f***s up. Regardless of what happens, I suspect you'll often lament his departure, just as you've persistently done for Leino and Quincey. I find it somewhat silly, to be honest, but I'll not get further into that. Edited October 5, 2010 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Regardless of what happens, I suspect you'll often lament his departure, just as you've persistently done for Leino and Quincey. I find it somewhat silly, to be honest. Lamenting? You mean other than my avatar? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Sorry I didn't know. That simple huh? Last time I asked about it after the Leino trade people acted like it was only accessible to management. No prob at all, I'm always glad to share my knowledge of overly specific NHL rules (that someone who doesn't have an over the top hockey sickness like me) with all, haha It's actually part of the new CBA... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Maltby could actually play night in/night out on that squad on the 4th line and killing penalties, not to mention the leadership he would bring to that clubhouse... to be honest, I'm still surprised they didn't sign him as a FA, unless they contacted him and he expressed a desire to stay in Detroit, or retire (which I think may have been the case) Either way, good luck Ritola and TB! I wonder if would be willing to move at this point of his career? It's one thing to be claimed to play for a contender but play for a team that's still rebuilding is another thing. I wonder if anyone that's thinking of picking him up will call him first. Kind of a "hey would you be cool moving here" before they actually pick him. I'm not saying anyone is actually interested in Maltby but it would nice a common courtesy thing at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 I wonder if would be willing to move at this point of his career? It's one thing to be claimed to play for a contender but play for a team that's still rebuilding is another thing. I wonder if anyone that's thinking of picking him up will call him first. Kind of a "hey would you be cool moving here" before they actually pick him. I'm not saying anyone is actually interested in Maltby but it would nice a common courtesy thing at this point. I would imagine (and hope) that any NHL level GM would put in his due diligence and at bare minimum call a veteran player who's played basically his entire career in one city and has a family and roots in that city, to at bare minimum give him a heads up that he plans on putting in a claim on him, to see where he's at mentally... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jusek 437 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Nice pick Stevie! But bad for us... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McAwesome 754 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 What are his chances of cracking the Lightning lineup any time soon? You gotta figure that Yzerman is directly responsible for this move, considering how much he was involved in player development while in the Wings organization, but is Ritola going to have a realistic shot at grabbing a roster spot without the coaching staff having a chance to evaluate him alongside their other roster players and prospects? Don't get me wrong, I really hope he does well there, I just wonder how much of a setback this could be to his chances of cracking the NHL this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 What are his chances of cracking the Lightning lineup any time soon? You gotta figure that Yzerman is directly responsible for this move, considering how much he was involved in player development while in the Wings organization, but is Ritola going to have a realistic shot at grabbing a roster spot without the coaching staff having a chance to evaluate him alongside their other roster players and prospects? Don't get me wrong, I really hope he does well there, I just wonder how much of a setback this could be to his chances of cracking the NHL this year. well TB must think he has nhl potential this year; if they want to send him down, they have to waive him as well which starts the process all over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 5, 2010 I agree. It's too bad things didn't work out here but hopefully he has a good year there. Believe it or not the Wings organization would be flattered to see guys that they helped develop do good in other places. It only breeds respect (not that the organization needs anymore) to have guys excel elsewhere. ie. Leino and hopefully Ritola. Leino was not developed by the Red Wings. He came to the organization and spent a year in the minors, then had such a horrific and effort-lacking season that the front office decided to get rid of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 I find it somewhat silly, to be honest, but I'll not get further into that. Haha, because you're perfectly aware of the fact that other than my avatar, I really don't lament about those guys much, if at all; which means, as usual, you just wanted to start a meaningless argument like Carmen and Eva. Go find a noob or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaBoy 151 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Don't worry guys, Stevie will give him back. Right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Meh, nothing really special about this guy. I mean if he was such a sure fire bet to be a solid NHL player he would have seen mroe time with the big club, especially with all the injuries this season. People overreact alot. He was skilled guy who couldn't produce points, who cares really. When we lost Quincy he had a solid playoff run with us where he looked great (still can't believe Holland waived him after that run) but this guy has done nothing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 I think we're going to regret this move eventually. Miller is awesome, but I think Ritola still has 2nd line potential while with Miller I think what we see is what we get. Either way we get an awesome player though. Hopefully Miller proves me wrong. And Ritola is a way cooler last name than Miller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) Meh, nothing really special about this guy. I mean if he was such a sure fire bet to be a solid NHL player he would have seen mroe time with the big club, especially with all the injuries this season. People overreact alot. He was skilled guy who couldn't produce points, who cares really. When we lost Quincy he had a solid playoff run with us where he looked great (still can't believe Holland waived him after that run) but this guy has done nothing He looked great? By that, do you mean he had to be coddled, given very little ice time, and in general protected from the top two lines of Anaheim and San Jose? And did you mean to note that when the Red Wings had that atrocious spell of injuries on defense in early '08, Meech absolutely outshined Quincey in every way possible? Oh, selective memory... Edited October 5, 2010 by Crymson 3 Z and D for the C, EuroWing and Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swayze 81 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Ritola will be regretted by this team, guarantee it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 It just amazes me how people still question Ken Holland and the Wings management after a move like this. With the current record of post season appearances and 4 cups in the last 13 years, you would think people would put their trust in the management. Its easy to look upon decisions in hindsight and say "I told you so". I guess its even more difficult to trust in the management. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 It just amazes me how people still question Ken Holland and the Wings management after a move like this. With the current record of post season appearances and 4 cups in the last 13 years, you would think people would put their trust in the management. Its easy to look upon decisions in hindsight and say "I told you so". I guess its even more difficult to trust in the management. Agreed 100% - If anything, we should just be grateful that we have such an embarrassment of riches and such tough choices to make - If anything it just goes to show how great of a job our brass does in the first place... keep in mind, all this is over a 4th round pick (a good one at that, but 4th rd pick nonetheless) whereas we have a 7th and 6th respectively, which are 2 of the most dominant, 2-way forwards in the game... if getting that means losing a quality player here and there because we have TOO much talent, I'll GLADLY take that. IN HOLLAND WE TRUST. Pavel says: I trust mine team to Dr. Holland, you should too. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted October 5, 2010 Ritola will be regretted by this team, guarantee it. Goodness. If only Holland had chosen the move that didn't have any potentially bad consequences, we'd be just fine! Wait... which move was that? It just amazes me how people still question Ken Holland and the Wings management after a move like this. With the current record of post season appearances and 4 cups in the last 13 years, you would think people would put their trust in the management. Its easy to look upon decisions in hindsight and say "I told you so". I guess its even more difficult to trust in the management. After being fans of such a successful team for such a long time, many people seem to have become perfectionists. If Holland makes the slightest screw-up, people whine, and many seem to have this mindless subconscious perception that there's someone better out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted October 5, 2010 He looked great? By that, do you mean he had to be coddled, given very little ice time, and in general protected from the top two lines of Anaheim and San Jose? And did you mean to note that when the Red Wings had that atrocious spell of injuries on defense in early '08, Meech absolutely outshined Quincey in every way possible? Oh, selective memory... For a red wing defenseman prospect to step in the playoffs when he was not close to being NHL ready was huge. Meech played fine in 08 but I put a lot more weight into playoffs and Quincy did great for what he was asked to do. Also given our needs at the time and Quincy was a defensive, physical defenseman, keeping the small weak puck mover who has no high end potential at all as more then a 6th guy. Yeah that move was questionable at the time and most people here called from the start that we shouldn't have done it. I was one of them and look now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
