Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 Hey a Championship is a Championship. You know what though, that year there was more bought teams than ours (Rangers, Leafs, and Flyers). Plus most of our talent came through the farm system. I'm not doggin' it. I'm just as proud of that one as any other. I'm just sayin that I can see other cities doggin it because it isn't far from the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,973 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 I'm not doggin' it. I'm just as proud of that one as any other. I'm just sayin that I can see other cities doggin it because it isn't far from the truth. Nowhere near the truth... the challenge is still there, name me one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 Nowhere near the truth... the challenge is still there, name me one... Seriously... this topic isn't even worth arguing. I give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) Well, let’s take a closer look: Reason 1: Hockeytown Any city would love to have that title. It’s ours and I believe it’s trademarked – ENVY Reason 2: The Joe The Joe is filled with history and a s*** load of banners! – ENVY Reason 3: Chelios didn’t shake hands I know someone else that did that in 2009 and we are the only ones pissed about it, I guess they will have to deal with it like we do. – Maybe not envy this time, but pretty damn ridiculous and reaching for a reason to hate. Reason 4: 2002 Awesomeness BOO HOO the Wings had an awesome roster filled with future hall of famers, you guessed it – ENVY Reason 5: Bandwagon Fans Wings fans are everywhere… - ENVY Ok, you got me… 80% ENVY 20% BS. Honestly if I weren't a Wings fan I would hate the team for all those reasons but number 5. Hockeytown is a little obnoxious, especially trademarking it, and not that accurate. Detroit is hockeytown so long as the Wings are winning and Cup contenders. The real test is when they're mediocre or bad. This is footballtown if anything, because for whatever reason, we still want to watch the Lions break our hearts season after season. The Joe- I wouldn't hate a team for their arena, and I have fond memories of the Joe. But even in the mid to late 80s, that place was outdated. Chelios - I hated Cheli before he was a Wing, and for all the s*** people give Crosby for skipping the line, I can totally get being ticked at Chelios for doing it (though I didn't realize he skipped twice?) 2002 - The least exciting of all Cups to me, because they were such a stacked team. Winning a Cup is still pretty awesome, but I definitely would've hated the Wings for buying an all star team like that. EDIT: though it is pretty funny that the reporter forgot Hasek when listing the HOF'ers on the 2002 team. Still, it listed 5 great reasons to love the team. Better than I would've expected from an OC paper. Edited October 22, 2010 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 Seriously... this topic isn't even worth arguing. I give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) Consider the source. Their "all-star" ****** bag got bested by our multiple Lady Byng winner, and they're still pissed about it. Hold a grudge, do we? Edited October 22, 2010 by Kira Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xtrememachine1 795 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 I'm constantly asked why the Wings since I'm not from Michigan, and their conclusion is that I must be a bandwagon fan. They can all think what they want. I know the feeling. I get "You live in Pittsburgh. You should cheer for the Penguins!". Just because you're born somewhere doesn't mean you have to cheer for that team. I always use the analogy, "Would you rather marry someone that was picked out for you or marry someone you fell in love with?" I fell in love with this franchise 23 years ago. I love the players, the tradition, the arena, the uniforms, the goal horn, etc. Sure the winning helps, but there's a ton to love about the Wings, which is why I believe they have so many fans around the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) I was waiting for a reason to hate the Wings to be 'They got over a million fans at their parade, we only got 10,000... WAH!' I agree the Joe is old, but hate the team because we out-marketed Disney and copyrighted Hockeytown? Hate us because of 2002? I am sick of hearing that the Wings "bought" the Cup back then... Hasek we traded for, as a matter of fact a 30 goal scorer and a first round pick. Brett Hull, is it our fault he took less money to come here? Hell we didn't even sign him until August 22nd of 2001, nearly 2 months after UFA day... Robitaille, NOBODY wanted, NOT EVEN LA! (much like Modano this year!) Olausson, again NOBODY ELSE WAS INTERESTED IN HIM!!! Chelios we traded Anders Ericsson and a first round pick for WAAAAAAY back in 1999. Larionov was on this team for years... Lidstrom, Yzerman, Fedorov, ALL DRAFT PICKS! Shanahan was traded for in 1996 for Keith Primeau and Paul Coffey AND a first round pick! Jesus H! Now what part of that says we just pulled a New York Yankee's and threw a ton of money at a bunch of free agents and BOUGHT the Stanley Cup!!!?!?!?!? Pure Envy is all it is.... Hate the Wings because they are your rivals, simple. Forget all the other BS excuses and rationalizations! For once I actually agree with you. The 1997, 1998, and 2002 champ rosters were stacked full of talent, but even if we wash away the fact that these acquisitions were from the draft, or free agency taking less money to come here, or free agency when no one else picked them, or a trade, a team still has to play, as a team, better than all of the others in the end. How many pre-cap years after their 94 cup did we see the Rangers at a higher payroll than the Wings only to f*** their chances of the postseason up, never mind chances of winning the cup? Where do you think this comic came from years ago? (yes, I saved it) Money does not equate to championship, though not having any money can equate to losing when you can't keep a single star player. The Wings' success was built on a team system, not on money. As for the fans, every fan has their reason for being a fan of a team -- who cares? The only problem I see is when fans declare they were fans of a team (or even the NHL) way before they actually were. There's no reason to lie about that. If it's your team, enjoy watching them. Don't need the bulls***. Also, it's obvious many fans and teams are envious of the Wings, and that's solely due to success. No one is envious of the Thrashers or the Blue Jackets or the Blues. Edited October 22, 2010 by Shoreline 1 xtrememachine1 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) I lol'd at the bandwagon fans one. Ducks cup year attendance: 20th in league Following year: 15th in league 08-09: 17th 09-10: 24th Bandwagon, wut? Psst, journalist: You don't own a friggin expensive jersey if you're just a bandwagon fan. Yes, those are transplants. Edited October 22, 2010 by Datsyerberger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
softshoes 83 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 The tears of the haters sustain me. Their anguish is like a cool drink on a sweltering day. They are the Charlie Brown to our Lucy, we'll always keep pulling the football away while they continue thinking the next time will be different. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 1. Better players than your team 2. Better management than your team 3. Better fans than your team 4. Greater history than your team 5. In three words, better than you. 2 F.Michael and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingmachine 189 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 Looks like brilliant management to me... Transactions The Red Wings were involved in the following transactions during the 2001–02 season. Trades June 30, 2001 To Detroit Red Wings Dominik Hasek To Buffalo Sabres Vyacheslav Kozlov First-round pick in 2002 Future considerations March 19, 2002 To Detroit Red Wings Jiri Slegr To Los Angeles Kings Yuri Butsayev Third-round pick in 2002 Free agents Player signed Former team LW Luc Robitaille Los Angeles Kings RW Brett Hull Dallas Stars C Pavel Datsyuk Playing in Russia Draft picks Detroit's picks at the 2001 NHL Entry Draft in Sunrise, Florida. The Wings had the 29th overall pick, however traded it to Chicago in 1999 during the deal to acquire Chris Chelios. Round # Player Nationality College/Junior/Club Team (League) 2 62 Igor Grigorenko (RW) Russia HC Lada Togliatti (RUS) 4 121 Drew MacIntyre (G) Canada Sherbrooke Castors (QMJHL) 4 129 Miroslav Blaťák (D) Czech Republic HC Zlin (CZE) 5 157 Andreas Jamtin (RW) Sweden Farjestads BK Karlstad (SWE) 6 195 Nick Pannoni (G) Canada Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) 8 258 Dmitry Bykov (D) Russia Aq Bars Kazan (RUS) 9 288 Francois Senez (D) Canada Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL) Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_Detroit_Red_Wings_season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 I remember thinking that "this newcomer named Datsyuk may only get in 10-20 games this season" before the 01-02 campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted October 22, 2010 I remember thinking that "this newcomer named Datsyuk may only get in 10-20 games this season" before the 01-02 campaign. And in his first season, whenever he was on the ice, I kept mistaking him for Kozlov! Just a habit that year when seeing a #13 skating around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted October 23, 2010 Boy were we ever in for a big surprise! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted October 23, 2010 JJ from Kansas on Winging it in Motown wrote in response Finally, in honor of the OC Register's Thursday photo gallery of ten reasons to love/hate the Red Wings (in which the author still hasn't corrected the sentence saying Babcock's system has spurned two trips to the cup finals instead of spurred), we decided to do our own. Since none of us could think of even one reason to love the Ducks, we only have five reasons to hate them: 1. They still have what rightfully should be our cup banner from 2007. Goonish crap and luck got them past Detroit in the conference finals. 2. The Brian Burke goon influence has not left them, even though he has. Anaheim plays ugly. Their motto seems to be "they can't call everything, can they?" 3. Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry lead the goon parade. It's bad enough they're actually skilled players, but they have to go that extra step and play like idiot meatheads when things don't go their way. Corey Perry loves running goalies and Ryan Getzlaf has as much sense as he does hair. 4. Randy Carlyle whines and cries about the refs calling the Ducks for cheating and then congratulates his guys for "playing tough". There's also just something about him that screams "Evil Egg Dictator". 5. I'll let this piece of the chat transcript between me and fellow writer Graham sum up reason number five: Graham: You can drop the "Mighty", but they're still named after a Disney movie. What's next, the "Old Yellers"? J.J.: Nobody would be yelling "SHOOOOOOT" during power plays at least link to article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites