jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 beauty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Tomorrow afternoon's headline: Marc Staal suspended for 2 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Tomorrow afternoon's headline: Marc Staal suspended for 2 games. if it is, i was correct with my prophecy i called after the Thornton hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Lets attempt to stop the debate before it starts. That hit is clean, it wasnt blindside. If anything it was a tad high, but Stajan was pretty low to the ice at the time of the hit and Staal didn't hit Stajans head anyways. He might have brushed Stajans head with his arm on the follow through, but it doesnt look like his arm had any real force behind it. That was just an overall beautiful hit! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Lets attempt to stop the debate before it starts. That hit is clean, it wasnt blindside. If anything it was a tad high, but Stajan was pretty low to the ice at the time of the hit and Staal didn't hit Stajans head anyways. He might have brushed Stajans head with his arm on the follow through, but it doesnt look like his arm had any real force behind it. That was just an overall beautiful hit! It was a beautiful play by staal, a stevens-like hit 2 cjm502 and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate94gt 134 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 man, that was a badass hit. I enjoyed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Lets attempt to stop the debate before it starts. That hit is clean, it wasnt blindside. If anything it was a tad high, but Stajan was pretty low to the ice at the time of the hit and Staal didn't hit Stajans head anyways. He might have brushed Stajans head with his arm on the follow through, but it doesnt look like his arm had any real force behind it. That was just an overall beautiful hit! Dead on - this was NOTHING like Thorton's hit and if Stajan isn't admiring his own pass and paying attention, he probably doesn't get laid out like that - Stall got as low as he could with the height difference and delivered a beauty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Dead on - this was NOTHING like Thorton's hit and if Stajan isn't admiring his own pass and paying attention, he probably doesn't get laid out like that - Stall got as low as he could with the height difference and delivered a beauty. perron wasn't paying attention either Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Great hit. Nothin' wrong with that at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Delicious hit. Hit to the head, but this was more north and south than the Thornton hit. This is the same type of hit Kronwall always delivers; he gets low and explodes in the player, you can see Staal left his feet either a fraction before the hit or a fraction after. Regardless, it was a very nice hard hit from a player who knew exactly what he wanted to do the moment Stajan got the puck. 1 Turd Ferguson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bar Down 107 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Stajan's bucket ended up all the way in the corner from the force of the impact! Beautiful hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 perron wasn't paying attention either Perron was paying attention to the pass he was about to receive, Stajan was carrying the puck with his head down. Huge difference. This hit looks pretty clean by the rules. Still, Staal could have easily aimed for the near shoulder instead of the chest and the hit would have been just as effective, but less injurious. 1 stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Perron was paying attention to the pass he was about to receive, Stajan was carrying the puck with his head down. Huge difference. This hit looks pretty clean by the rules. Still, Staal could have easily aimed for the near shoulder instead of the chest and the hit would have been just as effective, but less injurious. stajan was admiring his pass, it is the same exact thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 stajan was admiring his pass, it is the same exact thing Not even close. Stajan was skating with the puck through the neutral zone with his head down. That's just dumb, and there's never any reason for it. Furthermore, Staal (and others) were in front of him the whole time. (Admiring the pass was incidental, he couldn't have avoided the hit even without doing that.) Perron HAD to look down to receive the pass. Granted, it was a suicide pass, but that's the fault of the passer, not Perron. Also, Thornton had just come out of the penalty box and hit him laterally. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather see people play hockey than spend all game protecting themselves. Ironic that the biggest fans of these kind of hits always say 'keep your head up', when that's the last thing they really want to see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Not even close. Stajan was skating with the puck through the neutral zone with his head down. That's just dumb, and there's never any reason for it. Furthermore, Staal (and others) were in front of him the whole time. (Admiring the pass was incidental, he couldn't have avoided the hit even without doing that.) Perron HAD to look down to receive the pass. Granted, it was a suicide pass, but that's the fault of the passer, not Perron. Also, Thornton had just come out of the penalty box and hit him laterally. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather see people play hockey than spend all game protecting themselves. Ironic that the biggest fans of these kind of hits always say 'keep your head up', when that's the last thing they really want to see. it isn't ironic, it is just a way of saying if you don't like it don't do it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roboturner 562 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Just a few gems from Calgarypuck... "I don't even think you could call that hit "grey area". Pretty blatant right to the head." "But Staal had a responsibility to avoid a direct hit to the head when he came rocketing in on a guy who wasn't looking." "Totally a dirty blindside hit but the NHL could care less about Matt Stajan or the Flames, Staal gets nothing." There are a few people over there saying it was a clean hit, which I think it was, but just another case of them calling for someones head without even looking at the play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Just a few gems from Calgarypuck... There are a few people over there saying it was a clean hit, which I think it was, but just another case of them calling for someones head without even looking at the play. Ironic that a fellow named Dion used to do those exact type of hits when he played for the Flames. If the situation was reversed, Calgary fans would be complaining that the NHL is trying pussify the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Not even close. Stajan was skating with the puck through the neutral zone with his head down. That's just dumb, and there's never any reason for it. Furthermore, Staal (and others) were in front of him the whole time. (Admiring the pass was incidental, he couldn't have avoided the hit even without doing that.) Perron HAD to look down to receive the pass. Granted, it was a suicide pass, but that's the fault of the passer, not Perron. Also, Thornton had just come out of the penalty box and hit him laterally. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather see people play hockey than spend all game protecting themselves. Ironic that the biggest fans of these kind of hits always say 'keep your head up', when that's the last thing they really want to see. Exactly - this isn't even MILDLY the same Thorton wasn't even on the ice and came out of the box going East to West - Stall was going North to South and Stajan had just SENT a pass, he was not looking over his shoulder, waiting for a pass, not expecting a player that wasn't even on the ice 1 second earlier... Give it up jolly, your logic is the most flawed logic I have ever heard in my life on this one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 There is nothing wrong with this hit at all.. If Stajan doesn't admire his pass he's not looking the other way.. Clean is what that hit was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 Lets attempt to stop the debate before it starts. That hit is clean, it wasnt blindside. If anything it was a tad high, but Stajan was pretty low to the ice at the time of the hit and Staal didn't hit Stajans head anyways. He might have brushed Stajans head with his arm on the follow through, but it doesnt look like his arm had any real force behind it. That was just an overall beautiful hit! I think it was a great hit. But in terms of how the NHL will rule, who knows. It looked blindside, but only because Stajan was admiring his pass, in the offensive zone, headed towards the net. Which is unbelievable he had his head down in that part of the ice. There was some contact to the head, but I wouldn't say it was the principle point of contact. And it was East West. Like I said, I think it's a good hit. As for the NHL, spin the wheel.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) I think it was a great hit. But in terms of how the NHL will rule, who knows. It looked blindside, but only because Stajan was admiring his pass, in the offensive zone, headed towards the net. Which is unbelievable he had his head down in that part of the ice. There was some contact to the head, but I wouldn't say it was the principle point of contact. And it was East West. Like I said, I think it's a good hit. As for the NHL, spin the wheel.... um... what? This was a VERY clear North-South hit... just because Stall cuts across the ice doesn't make it E-W, he was never parallel with Stajan and was very clearly in front of him... THESE are the kind of hits that need to NOT be messed with... if anything this is a perfect example for officials: Thornton's - Illeagal Stall's - Legal Edited November 23, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 NHL deems it a legal hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 (edited) NHL deems it a legal hit because it was... Thornton's however, was not... they got it right and deserve credit where it's due for all the flack they get when they get it wrong. as I said in the post prior - I think these are perfect examples of what the NHL should be showing refs videos of, to determine whether it was illegal or not, in the terms of blind sided hits: Thornton's - Illegal Stall's - Legal Edited November 23, 2010 by stevkrause Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 because it was... Thornton's however, was not... they got it right and deserve credit where it's due for all the flack they get when they get it wrong. as I said in the post prior - I think these are perfect examples of what the NHL should be showing refs videos of, to determine whether it was illegal or not, in the terms of blind sided hits: Thornton's - Illegal Stall's - Legal why are people talking about thornton's hit? sheesh, and the Thornton one was fine, though i could see people labeling it unfortunately under the new rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted November 23, 2010 why are people talking about thornton's hit? sheesh, and the Thornton one was fine, though i could see people labeling it unfortunately under the new rule The Thornton hit was NOT fine, that was exactly what the rule was created for, it was a cheap-shot, classless and dangerous... 2 Konnan511 and Turd Ferguson reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites