Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 I must admit, pretty exciting to be a fan os the Sharks, Doug Wilson always making a big trade. Now Hollands on the other hand... Then be a fan of the Sharks, for f***s sake. Big trades don't mean big results. 2 Byorski and Nev reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishconnection 36 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Well, Minnesota is cold and is not a contender. The Sharks are definitely getting better with the addition of Burns and now with this trade (although Setogucci certainly will be missed). I'd say that this worked out pretty Neatly for Havlat. I see what you did there... 1 lookalive07 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CenterIce 83 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Why isn't Kenny making a push for guys like these? I mean im not against what he is doing but i think it would be awesome to see another talent come in via trade, and perhaps we will see one. :S It looked like they wanted a trade with comparable salaries. Only guys that would fit with on the Wings would be Datysuk, Zetterberg, or Lidstrom. Otherwise, it would have to be made up with a bunch of other guys. Wouldn't work too well either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 I must admit, pretty exciting to be a fan os the Sharks, Doug Wilson always making a big trade. Now Hollands on the other hand... Yeah, I'll take the GM that wins cups, not the GM who has never even gotten to the finals. 5 lookalive07, wingfanatic4alltime, Namingway and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Wha?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingZNut13 99 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Well, Minnesota is cold and is not a contender. The Sharks are definitely getting better with the addition of Burns and now with this trade (although Setogucci certainly will be missed). I'd say that this worked out pretty Neatly for Havlat. Nicely played sir. I agree the Sharks are getting better but let's see how the team plays together. I think they were a contender and this coming up year are going to be a forced to reckon with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishconnection 36 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Yeah, I'll take the GM that wins cups, not the GM who has never even gotten to the finals. While I generally agree with you on principle, the two being compared have differences with "time in the role." That and Kenny basically said during many-an-interview that he inherited a team that was built for success in 98. Notwithstanding the above, he has managed to be the best GM post-lockout by far, and has led the organization to success from his position all the way down to the ice-groomer. Now if we were comparing Babs to Lindy Ruff there would be a plausable argument. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcXI1fHZhc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWFjeK0_45I 2 BigWillieStyle and Detroit \# 1 Fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pazzloski 7 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 I wonder what 10 teams Heatley didnt want to go to? I would have thought Minn would have been on that list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WingNutNorCal 0 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Just told this to my Brother-in-law, who's a huge Sharks fan. He wasn't to sure about it yet. He said he heard the Sharks were trying to clear cap room so they could make an offer to Stamkos. Not sure I believe him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 San Jose got some cap relief out of this plus Heatley has basically been a playoff no-show for a couple of seasons. When you dish out that amount of money to a player, as a GM you'd like some post-season production. While Havlat won't get you the same amount of goals as Heatley, IMO he's a better playmaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishconnection 36 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 I wonder what 10 teams Heatley didnt want to go to? I would have thought Minn would have been on that list. 1. Ottawa 2. Ottawa 3. Atlanta 4. Atlanta 5. Florida 6. Islanders 7. Phoenix 8. Winnipeg 9. Ottawa again 10. Atlanta again 3 55fan, P. Marlowe and ogreslayer reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 1. Ottawa 2. Ottawa 3. Atlanta 4. Atlanta 5. Florida 6. Islanders 7. Phoenix 8. Winnipeg 9. Ottawa again 10. Atlanta again You forgot Edmonton Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itchin' to go 16 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Really? Wow, I'm surprised that he waived it to go to Minny. They're not exactly a contender. He's tired of being being a disappointment in the playoffs. He won't have to worry about that in Minny. Ryan 1 LidsFan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 maybe him at seto couldn't stay apart. its guy love between two guys.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaZel 19 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 He's tired of being being a disappointment in the playoffs. He won't have to worry about that in Minny. Ryan Haha yeah the Minnesota fans won't be jumping on his back for not producing in the playoffs that's for sure... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 IDK I think heatley is a much better player then havalt. good for min bad for sj imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 San Jose got worse, but it won't affect them vs. Detroit since Heatley is usually a non-factor anyways against us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 A soft euro for a guy who plays like a soft euro come playoff time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 San Jose got worse, but it won't affect them vs. Detroit since Heatley is usually a non-factor anyways against us. Havlat was a beast against the Wings, though IIRC. I agree with you, though. Not sure why everyone is saying San Jose got much better. Burns is good, but they lose a 30-40 goal scorer in Heatley and a clutch role guy in Divin Setoguchi. Havlat is good, but not as good as Heatley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Havlat was a beast against the Wings, though IIRC. I agree with you, though. Not sure why everyone is saying San Jose got much better. Burns is good, but they lose a 30-40 goal scorer in Heatley and a clutch role guy in Divin Setoguchi. Havlat is good, but not as good as Heatley. Easy fix to that.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlPDkUbRco 2 Shaman and hooon reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Easy fix to that.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTlPDkUbRco Touche, sir! Forgot about the Havsplat hit for a moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Yay! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manoir 70 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 So, Thornton for M.Koivu next week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hiei 192 Report post Posted July 4, 2011 Simple. Heatley is happy that he can go somewhere he can be the Hero. Minnesota has had scary good goaltending since Roloson/Fernandez. With Backstrom/Harding, they're still scary good in the net. Defenceman are still at least half-assed, even with Burns gone. Havlat hasn't been the same player since Kronwall ended him. Perhaps playing with Thornton/Pavelski/Marleau will turn him around. looking now for Minnesota to roll up this year in the still-weak Northwest. I think they take Nashville's traditional 7th or 8th spot this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
