ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) So i was online looking for quotes from Bobby Orr about Lidstrom but all I could find were peoples comparision, if someone could help out it would be much appreciated. Edited July 30, 2011 by ben_usmc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) So i was online looking for quotes from Bobby Orr about Lidstrom but all I could find were peoples comparision, if someone could help out it would be much appreciated. he has, and i'll look for it. he is very impressed by lidstrom. *edit* here it is: "I don't think there's any question he's in that conversation, no question," Orr told ESPN.com last week. "I mean, you talk about longevity, he's 40, and putting the numbers that he puts up. The success that team has had is mainly because of his play; it's been incredible. He's a class individual. Never heard a bad word about the man. And he plays the way he plays. What else can you ask for?" http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=lebrun_pierre&id=5918807 it was originally a free press story but it's been deleted. Edited July 30, 2011 by drumshanbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermind 363 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 I think this is because Orr has generally stayed under the radar after retiring. That's why you don't hear him talking much at all. Some other quotes from the aforementioned ESPN article: "But he sure puts numbers up," said Orr. "He does it differently than the way I did with the end-to-end [play]. I've seen replays recently of his shots from the point -- he gets them through, always on the net. He's not trying to put it through the end boards." "He doesn't overpower you, he's just so smart, great hockey sense," said Orr. "Intelligence, anticipation -- he does it all. He really does it all." And probably the most telling of them all... Before hanging up the phone with ESPN.com, Orr asked us to pass on a message to Lidstrom. "Do me a favor and tell him how much I love to watch him," said Orr. "He's represented us so darn well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 -Before hanging up the phone with ESPN.com, Orr asked us to pass on a message to Lidstrom. "Do me a favor and tell him how much I love to watch him," said Orr. "He's represented us so darn well.- That is one hell of a compliment that's for sure. 1 lil Wing's fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) "Do me a favor and tell him how much I love to watch him," said Orr. "He's represented us so darn well. I wonder what he means by this. Who's "us"? Edited July 30, 2011 by P. Marlowe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 I wonder what he means by this. Who's "us"? Illuminati? Though I am guessing 'defenesemen'. 4 mjlegend, 55fan, Frozen-Man and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoe 165 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 I wonder what he means by this. Who's "us"? NHL players? Norris Trophy Winners? The NHL Greatest Defencemen of all time Club? 2 LidsFan and evilmrt reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 Illuminati? AHHH!!! RUNNNN!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 AHHH!!! RUNNNN!!! Where ? 1 Red Wings Addict reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) Illuminati? Though I am guessing 'defenesemen'. "Us": Edited July 30, 2011 by P. Marlowe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben_usmc 253 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 thanks a lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 Where ? Good point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Legged RedWing 367 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 (edited) Nice quotes. Wonder what he will say when Nick passes him in Norris trophies. Edited July 30, 2011 by 8 Legged RedWing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 30, 2011 Nice quotes. Wonder what he will say when Nick passes him in Norris trophies. Orr won 8 in a row and if not for injuries, would have won around 15 or so Norris trophies. Even if Lidstrom passes him in Norrises, Orr is the best defenseman ever and the second best player ever, imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted July 30, 2011 Nice quotes. Wonder what he will say when Nick passes him in Norris trophies. "Why did any Lidstrom fans need validation through quotes from me when all they had to do was watch him play?" 3 Casey, Electrophile and McAwesome reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 Orr won 8 in a row and if not for injuries, would have won around 15 or so Norris trophies. Even if Lidstrom passes him in Norrises, Orr is the best defenseman ever and the second best player ever, imo. I don't necessarily disagree with you, however one could make the argument that the differences in career longevity between the two directly correlates to their style of play. I think it speaks to Lidstrom's credit that he has been so healthy for so much of his career, is able to avoid nonstop physicality and still be as dominant as he is, all while staying healthy and maintaining his level of skill over many years. Orr was never able to maintain that longevity due to his style of play. That is why I've never bought into the theory that Orr is unanimously better simply because he "would have" won more had he stayed healthy. The fact is... he didn't. He wasn't physically capable of it. It was his own style of play that led to his injuries, whereas Lidstrom's style of play has led to his preservation. I don't think that should be overlooked in the comparison. 3 lil Wing's fan, ben_usmc and P. Marlowe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 I don't necessarily disagree with you, however one could make the argument that the differences in career longevity between the two directly correlates to their style of play. I think it speaks to Lidstrom's credit that he has been so healthy for so much of his career, is able to avoid nonstop physicality and still be as dominant as he is, all while staying healthy and maintaining his level of skill over many years. Orr was never able to maintain that longevity due to his style of play. That is why I've never bought into the theory that Orr is unanimously better simply because he "would have" won more had he stayed healthy. The fact is... he didn't. He wasn't physically capable of it. It was his own style of play that led to his injuries, whereas Lidstrom's style of play has led to his preservation. I don't think that should be overlooked in the comparison. It's the domination though, Orr is off the charts at his peak - more than doubling the next closest scoring defenseman while still playing vey good defense. Lidstrom has an underrated peak, but it certainly was not "winning the Norris, Hart, Art Ross, Conn Smythe - all in the same season" good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) I think even with all the accolades Lids has he is severely underrated in just how good he was. He went out and quietly (for his first ten years) played Norris level defense, quarterbacked a dangerous team's powerplay, but was never noticed because until Coffey and Borque (among others of the old 1980s guard) were out of the league he went unnoticed. I would argue that if not for the fact that it took so long for people to notice Lidstrom he would have 10 Norris trophies by now. Edited July 31, 2011 by Shaman464 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 I think even with all the accolades Lids has he is severely underrated in just how good he was. He went out and quietly (for his first ten years) played Norris level defense, quarterbacked a dangerous team's powerplay, but was never noticed because until Coffey and Borque were out of the league. I would argue that if not for the fact that it took so long for people to notice Lidstrom he would have 10 Norris trophies by now. It's not that hard to imagine - IMO, he easily deserved the Norris in '98 and '09. If there was no lockout in '05 he is the favorite to win it. There's ten right there and he was arguably better than Pronger in '00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 AHHH!!! RUNNNN!!! Lidstrom and Bobby Orr aren't private bankers or CEOs of global corporations, so no need to run from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 31, 2011 AHHH!!! RUNNNN!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFXp1xYJ1YI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 I hope people weren't expecting a verbal slighting by Orr; that will not happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 Has Bourque ever talked about Ericsson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 I'm sure Phil has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kook_10 1,705 Report post Posted July 31, 2011 (edited) Has Bourque ever talked about Ericsson? "I much prefer Nokia" Edited July 31, 2011 by kook_10 1 commadore183 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites