sputman 1,268 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Unfortunately, much of society everywhere lacks an appreciation of how real and how dangerous depression can be. exactly right. unfortunately i've had to deal with depression in my life and my mother will still say things like "what do you have to be depressed about?" she just doesn't understand that it doesn't work that way. it took a little while but eventually i learned that things do get better. was it this past year he went after a fan after being ejected in minnesota? i remember thinking then that he must be struggling internally. if it is suicide...man that's just awful. 28 years old is too young to give up. tragic. 2 Motown4013 and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Such a shame this happened. I was just you tubing him a couple days ago, he was such a great fighter it's too bad he lost this battle. My best wish's go out to his friends and family as well as his fans everywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) was it this past year he went after a fan after being ejected in minnesota? Yeah, and whether people like it or not, that is the main thing 99.9% of people are going to remember him for...being the guy who attacked a fan in the stands for no reason. Edited August 16, 2011 by sleepwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 I'm pretty sure Rypien had been put on leave of absence for personal reasons two or three times while he was with the Canucks. Sounds like he had some demons. Sad, sad news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WizardOfOz30 1,886 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Such sad news. It sounded like he tried to deal with his depression with that leave of absence, such a shame that it came to this. Whatever his demons were he must not have been able to fight them. I have a cousin that has attempted to take his life 2 times and when I don't hear from him for a while I worry and check on him. Depression affects everyone that loves the person suffering through it. Thoughts and prayers to his family and friends for their loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 What the hell is it with hockey players passing away as of late? Far too young, so unfortunate and sad. In the last few years we've lost Sergei Zholtok, Dan Snyder, Aelx Cherepanov, Luc Bourdon, Mandi Schwartz, Derek Boogaard, and now Rick Rypien. Steroids and other that kinda stuff that doesn't belong in the human body. The leagues just don't want to talk about it because it would look bad from a marketing perspective. 2 sleepwalker and Reds4Life reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Steroids and other that kinda stuff that doesn't belong in the human body. The leagues just don't want to talk about it because it would look bad from a marketing perspective. Pretty bold statement to make with 0 evidence or proof. Baseball's had tons of admissions of steroid use and yet I can't recall any premature deaths of baseball players recently. 2 wings1110 and Motown4013 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Steroids and other that kinda stuff that doesn't belong in the human body. The leagues just don't want to talk about it because it would look bad from a marketing perspective. What the hell do steroids have to do with Rypien? Or for that matter, Luc Bourdon dying in a motorcycle accident? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 This is very shocking news. I was looking forward to him being the first Jets player to drop the gloves. Watched him as a Regina Pat playing the Wheat Kings and he was impressive then. Then he came to Winnipeg and was one of the only Moose players I gave a s*** about, and then I was pretty excited about him signing with the Jets. Sad to hear about his death. I hope his salary this year is given to his family, or given to a cause that helps deal with depression and helping people through it cause clearly Ripper wasn't the happiest person the past couple years. All the best to his family. What the hell is it with hockey players passing away as of late? Far too young, so unfortunate and sad. In the last few years we've lost Sergei Zholtok, Dan Snyder, Aelx Cherepanov, Luc Bourdon, Mandi Schwartz, Derek Boogaard, and now Rick Rypien. and our beloved Bob Probert 1 WizardOfOz30 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 I certainly didn't need to see this first thing this morning. How sad. Rest in peace, Rick, and walk with angels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Pretty bold statement to make with 0 evidence or proof. Baseball's had tons of admissions of steroid use and yet I can't recall any premature deaths of baseball players recently. Which statement? Of course we have no concrete proof, or else NHL's marketing system would not have done its job well. Steroids and other enchanters have the possibility of leading to a instant unexcepted dead.NHL players use stims etc., period. Bigger more physical guys (such as fighters) are more likely to use steroids where as players who rely more to skill may only use restoring stimulants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 NHL players use stims etc., period. Bigger more physical guys (such as fighters) are more likely to use steroids where as players who rely more to skill may only use restoring stimulants. Not the best direction in which to direct this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) What the hell do steroids have to do with Rypien? Or for that matter, Luc Bourdon dying in a motorcycle accident? Not directly, necessarily. Rypien has to do with the unexpected deaths lately. And the unexpected death's have to do with steroids etc. Not the best direction in which to direct this thread. I didn't know this was a "R.I.P thread" in the Water cooler. I thought you are supposed to actually discuss in the General discussion section. My bad. Edited August 16, 2011 by Finnish Wing 1 wings1110 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Steroids and other that kinda stuff that doesn't belong in the human body. The leagues just don't want to talk about it because it would look bad from a marketing perspective. Did you post this in the right thread? What the hell does steroids have to do with the people Hockeytown mentioned? Dan Snyder - car crash Luc Bourdon - motorcycle accident Mandi Schwartz- leukemia Derek Boogaard - substance abuse problem, but it was alcohol and oxycodone Zholtok - arrhythmia, no evidence of steroids Cherpanov - inconclusive, but no solid evidence of steroid use or doping 1 Hockeytown0001 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Not directly, necessarily. Rypien has to do with the unexpected deaths lately. And the unexpected death's have to do with steroids etc. That's a full square yard of bulls***. You're essentially saying Rypien's death was due to steroid use. Get the f*** outta here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Which statement? Of course we have no concrete proof, or else NHL's marketing system would not have done its job well. Steroids and other enchanters have the possibility of leading to a instant unexcepted dead. NHL players use stims etc., period. Bigger more physical guys (such as fighters) are more likely to use steroids where as players who rely more to skill may only use restoring stimulants. To be clear, you're making baseless accusations. No evidence, links, nothing. Not directly, necessarily. Rypien has to do with the unexpected deaths lately. And the unexpected death's have to do with steroids etc. I didn't know this was a "R.I.P thread" in the Water cooler. I thought you are supposed to actually discuss in the General discussion section. My bad. Of the unexpected deaths, only a couple could even be loosely tied to potential steroids or doping. You really can't see how people might get upset when you come into a thread about a hockey player who just died, and with no evidence at all imply that his death is due to steroids. And then go on and lump a bunch of other hockey deaths in the same category, when they clearly had no link to steroid abuse? 1 GSBrooks13 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 There is a time and a place for the Steroid discussion, and I am pretty sure this is not it. Rypien was easily one of my favourite fighters over the last couple seasons. RIP Rick. 1 stevkrause reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) I'm on the west coast of Canada and listening to local Vancouver radio this very second. All the discussion is about Rypien's battle with severe clinical depression and how unfortunate this whole thing is. Rypien was one of my favourite Canucks. He was known as a kind man who cared for his teammates and had some great friends and advocates in Kevin Bieksa and Mason Raymond. They publicly stood up for him (as did the Canucks organization) through his battles with depression and leaves of absence from the Canucks. Rypien was a troubled young man and his death has a lot in common with psychological issues and nothing to do with steroids. f*** all. Edited August 16, 2011 by Chairman Maouth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 I'm on the west coast of Canada and listening to local Vancouver radio this very second. All the discussion is about Rypien's battle with severe clinical depression and how unfortunate this whole thing is. Rypien was one of my favourite Canucks. He was known as a kind man who cared for his teammates and had some great friends and advocates in Kevin Bieksa and Mason Raymond. They publicly stood up for him (as did the Canucks organization) through his battles with depression and leaves of absence from the Canucks. Rypien was a troubled young man and his death has a lot in common with psychological issues and nothing to do with steroids. f*** all. The Canucks did everything they could for him when he was in their organization. Such a shame he felt he had no other alternative because he was a good role model until a couple of days ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Did you post this in the right thread? What the hell does steroids have to do with the people Hockeytown mentioned? Dan Snyder - car crash Luc Bourdon - motorcycle accident Mandi Schwartz- leukemia Derek Boogaard - substance abuse problem, but it was alcohol and oxycodone Zholtok - arrhythmia, no evidence of steroids Cherpanov - inconclusive, but no solid evidence of steroid use or doping Agreed. While steroids is something that is kept hush-hush in the NHL and swept under the rug and ignored, it also has nothing to do with the deaths being discussed in this thread, which as you pointed out were caused by a variety of different things, none of which were steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) The Canucks did everything they could for him when he was in their organization. Such a shame he felt he had no other alternative because he was a good role model until a couple of days ago. I've gone from sadness and grief last night to a bit of anger at Rypien today for wasting his life. He had it pretty good when looking at things from the surface. I also realize the anger I feel is likely born of ignorance about clinical depression. I don't know. It's just all so tragic on so many different levels. I loved the guy and maybe I'm being selfish that I won't get to see this little guy take on guys a foot taller who outweigh him by 70 pounds ever again. I know he was no longer a Canuck and I was pissed about that, but still, this is all so s***ty. I guess he will always be a Canuck now. Edited August 16, 2011 by Chairman Maouth 1 ECWingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 I've gone from sadness and grief last night to a bit of anger at Rypien today for wasting his life. He had it pretty good when looking at things from the surface. I also realize the anger I feel is likely born of ignorance about clinical depression. I don't know. It's just all so tragic on so many different levels. I loved the guy and maybe I'm being selfish that I won't get to see this little guy take on guys a foot taller who outweigh him by 70 pounds ever again. I know he was no longer a Canuck and I was pissed about that, but still, this is all so s***ty. I guess he will always be a Canuck now. If that's your thought process, than you truly don't understand depression. That's not a knock on you, as you claimed ignorance about the disease. I'm just confirming the fact that you don't know enough about it. RIP Rick. 4 Hockeytown0001, stevkrause, GMRwings1983 and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 If that's your thought process, than you truly don't understand depression. That's not a knock on you, as you claimed ignorance about the disease. I'm just confirming the fact that you don't know enough about it. RIP Rick. Yeah thanks for the confirmation. Very helpful. 1 F.Michael reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 There is a time and a place for the Steroid discussion, and I am pretty sure this is not it. Rypien was easily one of my favourite fighters over the last couple seasons. RIP Rick. Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chairman Maouth 97 Report post Posted August 16, 2011 Fantastic article about Rypien. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites