Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Hank stepped up in a big way last season with Dats out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff6851 168 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 So Zetterberg to first line and going all out and putting Mursak on the second? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) So Zetterberg to first line and going all out and putting Mursak on the second? I think Abby might center the second line. Either that or Babcock puts Filpulla at center and moves Cleary into the top 6. Mursak will be on the 4th line more than likely. Edited February 21, 2012 by redwingfan19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I have to say, I thought he was anonymous on Sunday.....this probably explains why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) As a whole, the entire team is contributing more than relying on just a few players. Criticizing that average is a bit over-the-top. Sort of just seems like you're in the mood to argue. Miller and Zetterberg scoring more doesn't mean that Datsyuk HAS to score less. It's not a zero sum game. Here's a simple question, do you think he's been as good since the all star break as he was before it? Edited February 21, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Datsyuk probably suffered the same injury I did. It will take minor scope surgery and I was back to full tilt in two weeks. I played on mine for 2 months before the surgery.. I was on crutches for a day and was skating a couple days after. Just took two weeks to feel fully comfortable 1 Rick D reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) sort of just seems like you're in the mood to argue. Here's a simple question, do you think he's been as good since the all star break as he was before it? I do not really keep track of numbers like you nor do I get to watch every game, but I do know the entire team as a whole is contributing more this year than previous... In my eyes, it offsets things if a player or players output has diminished... Player(s) goes through slumps and taking a small snippet with the stats like you have is over-the-top in my eyes. In a perfect world and society, this entire team would be firing on all cylinders and we would winning games with score of 20-0... See how that is a bit silly? That is how I see your criticism of Pavel especially if he has been playing injured. Edited February 21, 2012 by Rivalred 1 roboturner reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Lesh 93 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I for one really do not care about the streak at this point, I want the team healthy/ready for the playoffs.... I couldn't agree more. 1 kipwinger reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Piss. Get well for the playoffs, that's all that matters. How Pav and the organization go about their daily business is truly astounding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) I do not really keep track of numbers like you nor do I get to watch every game, but I do know the entire team as a whole is contributing more this year than previous... In my eyes, it offsets things if a player or players output has diminished... Player(s) goes through slumps and taking a small snippet with the stats like you have is over-the-top in my eyes. In a perfect world and society, this entire team would be firing on all cylinders and we would winning games with score of 20-0... See how that is a bit silly? That is how I see your criticism of Pavel especially if he has been playing injured. Jesus Christ. The point I've been trying to make from the beginning is that IF he has been playing injured (as we both agree he has), and he's getting it taken care of now, then maybe we'll see his numbers return to over a point a game like they were Nov, Dec, and Jan. It's not a criticism of Datsyuk, its a hope that this will fix what is obviously a (smallish) problem. The fact that the team is playing better should only increase the likelihood of Pavel's scoring. Also, he had more ice time in the last ten games, which should increase his production as well. The fact is that his production is down (slightly), I'd say that this injury is probably having some effect. Now that they're taking care of it, maybe it won't be a problem anymore, which was my point to begin with. Edited February 21, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 OK, you quoted my post? One does not have to pay close attention to the statistics like you have to know if the Wings are playing good hockey or not. Pavel, rest up and get better bro... Hope folks do not criticize the way you wipe your ass over the next 2 weeks and keep track if you shake one or two times after using the urinal. 1 vladdy16 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tim.D 176 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Lines More info per Babcock: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I'm surprised they didn't pull the trigger on having this done during the All Star break. Maybe it wasn't as imminent at that point. But you'd have to think that if it was, they would have done this at the break. In past years they've given much less substantive reasons for not sending players to this event....so I'm guessing that his knee has continued to get worse since the All Star break. That's a good point, but maybe it was personal preference. The squad is in a pretty comfortable (or at least as comfortable as one can be in the league this season) place in the standings and maybe it wasn't as bad before, so Pav wanted to do it now. Maybe we should just be happy it's not a concussion! --> Get well soon Patty Eaves! (Or that the injury bug hasn't hit the Wings as bad this year...knock on wood). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stinky fish taco Report post Posted February 21, 2012 any hope of finishing first in the western conference is now gone. 1 MidMichSteve reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ram 240 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 any hope of finishing first in the western conference is now gone. Come on man, keep the faith. The squad's been owning it, as a whole, lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WizardOfOz30 1,886 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 I'm surprised they didn't pull the trigger on having this done during the All Star break. Maybe it wasn't as imminent at that point. But you'd have to think that if it was, they would have done this at the break. In past years they've given much less substantive reasons for not sending players to this event....so I'm guessing that his knee has continued to get worse since the All Star break. If we tried they would have suspended him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) OK, you quoted my post? One does not have to pay close attention to the statistics like you have to know if the Wings are playing good hockey or not. Pavel, rest up and get better bro... Hope folks do not criticize the way you wipe your ass over the next 2 weeks and keep track if you shake one or two times after using the urinal. Who said they were playing bad? I said Pavel's numbers are down lately, WHICH THEY ARE, and maybe fixing his knee will bring them back up...WHICH WOULD BE GOOD. It's an accurate observation, not a criticism. I'm not exactly sure what your problem is with that, but it's sure as hell maddening that you're continuing on with it. Edited February 21, 2012 by kipwinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Pavel, you will be missed over the next two weeks even though your production has diminished to less than a PPG (point per game) for three weeks out of the shortest month of the year while not finishing up the month, which therefore would screw the final results when comparing an entire full month depending of course how many games where scheduled in previous months and how much ice time you have played in correlation to global warming and the seemingly warm winter. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stinky fish taco Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Come on man, keep the faith. The squad's been owning it, as a whole, lately. it was going to be hard enough to stay ahead of vancouver as it was. the canucks have an easier schedule to finish off the season. without datsyuk for 2 weeks? no chance. 1 Cloune reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 it was going to be hard enough to stay ahead of vancouver as it was. the canucks have an easier schedule to finish off the season. without datsyuk for 2 weeks? no chance. Taco Bull strikes again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 wow what a blow! so much for the streak continuing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Cleanups. And multi-million dollar assets don't visit the doctor you and I go to. Point taken, but actually they do. Way back in the day, my knee/ankle doctor was also Kirk Gibson's guy. But yes, we most likely do not have access to the same trainers and rehab technology they do. Arthroscopic (sp?) surgery is just a small incision, then they put a small camera in there to look around for any damage. If there is no (or minimal) damge, recovery can be really fast. The streak is fun, but i don't want it to wear the guys out before the playofffs. Especially with Dats out, Z will put the extra load on himself. Edited February 21, 2012 by T.Low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Damn ... like many of you, didn't see this coming! We can do this ... Jimmy is back, let's hope he plays lights out and steals a few games for us. Z steps up, some of the young ones as well. Most importantly, we need #13 for the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielsm 244 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Man Pasha is never going to hit 100 points at this rate. I was really pulling for him this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,754 Report post Posted February 21, 2012 Lame. I had a couple more zingers lined up before the refs stopped the fight. Anyway, hopefully we'll see a return to form once he's back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
