Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Do you think we should consider hockeyyInsiderr a reliable source at this point? Lately he has been dead on and sometimes several days before everyone else. I still hear some bashing about him going in here and I really wonder if those people actually follow the guy regularly and see how accurate he has been. I don't have time at the moment to detail every deal he has cracked, but from recent memory it has been impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 I'm praying yes lol because I know this is being asked cause of the Yandle talk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Same person that claimed Suter had a verbal agreement with the Red Wings. Just my opinion, but I don't consider him reliable overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Hope he's right about Yandle. Seems like a bird though, kinda think he's Pierre McGuire after what he tweeted the other night Edited July 30, 2012 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 What was all said about the Wings being interested in Yandle since we already have speculated on this for awhile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
number9 3,297 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 What was all said about the Wings being interested in Yandle since we already have speculated on this for awhile? that we are the front runners in a trade for yandle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Same person that claimed Suter had a verbal agreement with the Red Wings. Just my opinion, but I don't consider him reliable overall. How do you know that didn't actually happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joesuffP 1,746 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Ya saw some stuff on twitter about Flippula being offered for Yandle. Get it done Kenny... Flippula's contract sucks though for trade bait. Please Holland make a trade for a D man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jthiel86 43 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Even if he's not necessarily "a sure source", it is a rumor thread and it is fun to speculate no? That being said... Not sure I like losing Flip for Yandle. I think, THINK, I'd rather lose Franzen and roll the dice with Brunner/Nyquist making up for his scoring. At least we know we'll get major hustle from Nyquist. Edited July 30, 2012 by jthiel86 2 Motown4013 and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviaman 104 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 I hope so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 i stopped following him after the suter s***. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShanahanMan 473 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Yeah, Suter was the last straw. 95% my ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amato 3,210 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 I've been reading some of his stuff and I feel like yea, he's right sometimes and often before anyone else. But I think he just puts out so many tweets and hopes to be right/ hopes people don't notice when he's wrong. Then again, they are all rumors and it is fun to speculate.. I don't think id trust him 100% of the time but I'll still read his posts at least out of curiosity/boredom haha 1 jthiel86 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Eklund 2.0 in my opinion. Throw enough s*** at the wall & see what sticks. 2 roboturner and Ozzie30 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 The only reason any of his stuff seems at all accurate is on the off chance he gets one right he relentlessly tweets about it bragging about how he was right and how he beat "main stream media" to the punch about it.. so you end up hearing about it way more when he is right.. and then when he is wrong he makes up some ridiculous story like the Wings being furious about Suter breaking that so called "verbal agreement" or Crosby being "irate" when Parise broke that same "verbal agreement" with the Pens.. Most of his stuff is generic.. he knows the Wings want a d-man and have interest in Yandle so why not put it out there as your own info, then if the trade happens he can gloat about how he had it the info weeks in advance and if no trade happens he can just say "negotiations fell apart" or some other BS.. The other thing is, if he really worked for all of these teams and has "sources" high up in seemlingly every team, there would be no way that he could keep his identity a secret.. 2 roboturner and amato reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 You remember the ones he gets right, and generally forget those that don't pan out. But this is a guy who twice reported signings that never happened. Bit embarrassing for him when he says a player signs in one city only for NHL.com/TSN/whatever to say an hour later that they've signed elsewhere. If you go through ALL his tweets the vast majority are BS. After all this is a multi-million dollar industry and some pro scout in an organisation isn't going to tell an old colleague about a trade or a signing going down, in the full knowledge that he has a twitter account with the purpose of revealing such information. That scout would be out the door. Not to mention if he worked for 4 different NHL teams why isn't he still working within the league? He's a blogger who is now seeking people to blog with him on a website. This doesn't sound like an NHL source to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 If his coach thought he was as good as some people think, he wouldn't have been 4th among the Coyotes' defensemen for ice-time in the playoffs. He is a great skater and highly skilled but is soft, not very good positionally and prone to errors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 He knew the specifics of several deals, not just saying they would happen. He called semin 1 yr deal to the canes. Called nash trade and the players involved. Had weber info before everyone. The guy gloats a lot, but the fact that he has reported very specific information before anyone says he is legit. I dont know why people give him so much s*** about Suter, many other sources have concurred that Suter wanted to play for Detroit, but ultimately followed Parise when he decided to go home. Haters gonna hate i guess... 1 SaCkaveli20 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) Now is the perfect time for any fraud to become famous in the hockey blogger-twitter universe. Us hockey fans are starving for any real news so we are more vulnerable to believe any kind of crap especially regarding the Red Wings. I think guys like Eklund go on all the more popular team sites (such as this one) and get an idea as to which players the fans want on their teams. Then they troll out the rumours on their web sites and twitter accounts and voila! A new fraud is born! I could have started a site on July 1st and had Alex Semin going to a different team each day. If I had gone alphabetically by team, I would have had Semin to Carolina before anyone else did. Throw some crap against the wall, play the law of averages and something will stick. Why do you think Eklund always throws at least 5 or 6 teams in any player rumours? So he can increase his chances of being right. He has no real sources and no accountability. He is always wrong but he still posts more crap and people keep reading it. I think the same will happen with this latest fraud, hockeyinsiderr. Edited July 30, 2012 by Hatethedrake! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 He might have the specifics on some deals and will break it before others, but that doesn't mean he's an inside source. The deals that he has given info on have all been pretty big deals that would have come with some press release. The deal may have been done a day before he gets the info and therefore there isn't much wrong with leaking something. It's basic industry practice that a publication or a broadcaster wont confirm a deal until the teams in question do. He has the luxury of being able to say what he wants with little backlash, he's a blogger. He's rarely right when deals are trying to be worked (or throws about 8/9 teams in there as potential destinations) but then can take all the credit for breaking a story early when he has no restrictions on what he can say. Hope that makes sense... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 How do you know that didn't actually happen? Because Suter didn't sign here the next day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manny>Ozzie(by a long shot) 55 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 Because Suter didn't sign here the next day? Last time i checked verbal agreements don't equal signed contracts. Will he be credible if he calls the Yandle to wings trade and calls each of the pieces involved? He said he is going to know the pieces involved soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 seeing all the guys on twitter (TSN'ers, russo tribune) rip on him and call him fake and a loser, makes me believe that he is actually more credible than they try to say. They dont rip on anyone else but him. almost like theyre pissed because someone who isnt employed by a major media company is getting more info that they are. Like they want the glory of being the one who reported it. I follow him, but but believe it until the wings official twitter announces it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted July 30, 2012 seeing all the guys on twitter (TSN'ers, russo tribune) rip on him and call him fake and a loser, makes me believe that he is actually more credible than they try to say. They dont rip on anyone else but him. almost like theyre pissed because someone who isnt employed by a major media company is getting more info that they are. Like they want the glory of being the one who reported it. I follow him, but but believe it until the wings official twitter announces it I don't think that's quite accurate. The TSN guys (especially this summer) have dismissed quite a few rumours. I specifically remember Dreger shutting down Eklund rumours multiple times at the beginning of the summer and there have been quite a few jokes made at the expense of Eklund on Twitter by many Mainstream Media members, that doesn't make Eklund any more legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted July 30, 2012 I am hearing Yandle to the Wings for Filppula, Nyquist and a 1st. I will have more as soon as I confirm with my sources Bert and Ernie. More to come..stay tuned... 1 Frozen-Man reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites