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#101 evilzyme

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

Not trying to be a debby downer, but the topic has been discussed in already 2 other Brunner threads. Everyone knows we need to re-sign him asap, it would be a joke to allow the one pure goal-scorer this team has walk. Like previously said, I think he'll be worth 3.5-4m at this current moment. He's a rookie and still brand new to the league, we don't know how he's going to do within a 82-game season. The most he's traveled in Swiss was 4 hours, compared to the numerous flights he's going to be on. He could ask more later on, but ideally I think 2-3 years @ 3.5/4m. 


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

thanks for merging them!


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

He'll get a 1 year around $2M....why? Because Holland will tell the agent "lets see what he does over an 82 game season and then we'll talk long term..."

 

Brunner has never played more than a 50 game season and it would be a big gamble to reward someone a large contract based on playing 48 games in the NHL...I know it's been done, and it just may happen, but I think they will agree on a raise for a year, then if he does net 40+ goals, go from there...

 

then again, you can flip the coin and Holland may want to give him a contract for about 4 years at a modest raise of around $3M-$4M, then if Brunner does put up 40 goals or more, he has him for a nice discount....


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

He'll get a 1 year around $2M....why? Because Holland will tell the agent "lets see what he does over an 82 game season and then we'll talk long term..."

 

Brunner has never played more than a 50 game season and it would be a big gamble to reward someone a large contract based on playing 48 games in the NHL...I know it's been done, and it just may happen, but I think they will agree on a raise for a year, then if he does net 40+ goals, go from there...

 

then again, you can flip the coin and Holland may want to give him a contract for about 4 years at a modest raise of around $3M-$4M, then if Brunner does put up 40 goals or more, he has him for a nice discount....

 

While I partially agree with this sentiment you have to remember Brunner has already played 52 games between EV Zug and the wings, in another 29 games he will have played 81 games total. I agree EV Zug is not in a super physical or as fast of a league, but it will be a good indication of his stamina going forward



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

This is real simple. Brunner = score goals. Is he scoring goals? Yes.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

He'll get a 1 year around $2M....why? Because Holland will tell the agent "lets see what he does over an 82 game season and then we'll talk long term..."

 

Brunner has never played more than a 50 game season and it would be a big gamble to reward someone a large contract based on playing 48 games in the NHL...I know it's been done, and it just may happen, but I think they will agree on a raise for a year, then if he does net 40+ goals, go from there...

 

then again, you can flip the coin and Holland may want to give him a contract for about 4 years at a modest raise of around $3M-$4M, then if Brunner does put up 40 goals or more, he has him for a nice discount....

 

This. Make it $2.2 - 2.8M.

 

Noone is going to offer 3.5M+ for a 3 year contract. Why?

 

a) his current goal scoring stats are overrated (a couple of goals were useless, a few could and would be scored by ANYone, 2-3 were good, but only 2-4 were great)

b) time will show how much of a defensive handicap he is for the team (e.g. the St. Louis game 10 days ago was just lost due to his turnovers)

 

And for Brunner, a 3.5M contract over 3 years is bad also, because what if he scores 45+ goals and 80+ pts over the next 2 seasons? He's too old to wait for a superb long-term contract in 4 years. Either he gets one in 1, at most 2 years, or he doesn't.



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

This. Make it $2.2 - 2.8M.

 

Noone is going to offer 3.5M+ for a 3 year contract. Why?

 

a) his current goal scoring stats are overrated (a couple of goals were useless, a few could and would be scored by ANYone, 2-3 were good, but only 2-4 were great)

b) time will show how much of a defensive handicap he is for the team (e.g. the St. Louis game 10 days ago was just lost due to his turnovers)

 

And for Brunner, a 3.5M contract over 3 years is bad also, because what if he scores 45+ goals and 80+ pts over the next 2 seasons? He's too old to wait for a superb long-term contract in 4 years. Either he gets one in 1, at most 2 years, or he doesn't.

 

I agree, how could anyone coming from Europe making peanuts be able to survive on $3.5 million a year? I myself need at least $4 million just to make ends meat



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:57 PM

This. Make it $2.2 - 2.8M.

 

Noone is going to offer 3.5M+ for a 3 year contract. Why?

 

a) his current goal scoring stats are overrated (a couple of goals were useless, a few could and would be scored by ANYone, 2-3 were good, but only 2-4 were great)

 

They don't ask how, they ask how many.  Phil Esposito scored a bazillion goals from within 2 feet of the goal that "anyone" could have scored.

 

 

He'll get a 1 year around $2M....why? Because Holland will tell the agent "lets see what he does over an 82 game season and then we'll talk long term..."

 

And then Brunner's agent says "Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" :bye1:


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

I agree, how could anyone coming from Europe making peanuts be able to survive on $3.5 million a year? I myself need at least $4 million just to make ends meat

 

lol, what? This topic isn't about Brunners living expenses.

 

I bet we lock him up in a 2 year contract, about 3.2 mil per.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

They don't ask how, they ask how many.  Phil Esposito scored a bazillion goals from within 2 feet of the goal that "anyone" could have scored.

 

 

 

And then Brunner's agent says "Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" :bye1:

 

Hahahaha. :yahoo: Thanks for this!



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:11 PM

I would love to see a 3 year contract worth 2.5-3 with play off incentives
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:06 PM

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:26 PM

The guy is a sniper another great find.  I dont think they expect him to grind it out in the corners.  Sure there will be an adjustment period and he will continue to improve. 
 
Right now looks like hes out there havin fun with his budy Z.  Sign him to a 3yr deal 3mil maybe even more it all depends how strong he finishes. 

Either way hes an improvement over Hudler and he even back checks.



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 12:19 AM

I agree, the kid's an ace.  He's a goal scorer and also someone who has a great vision.  The fact him and Z had the connection they did just shows what kind of kid he is imo.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 12:56 AM

Why would you want to underpay one of the most consistent players on our team?  3.5M is not a bad price.  How much does Fil make again?  I'm hoping for a 3 year deal.

 

 

...Sammy makes 3 mil for pete's sake!  :plain:  

 

If we get him in the 3 mil range that will be a complete steal if he plays with the same consistency he is now.  It's one thing to complain about overpaying players that don't deserve it, but this guy brings it every game.

 

Plus, you know Philly is going to offer him 7M if he's still unsigned but the summer. lol



I would love to see a 3 year contract worth 2.5-3 with play off incentives

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:09 AM

play off incentives!



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:27 AM

i've noticed him working way harder on the defensive side of the puck too...awesome improvement in that area. Keep up the hard work Brunns you sick beauty!



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:58 AM

He'll get a 1 year around $2M....why? Because Holland will tell the agent "lets see what he does over an 82 game season and then we'll talk long term..."
 
Brunner has never played more than a 50 game season and it would be a big gamble to reward someone a large contract based on playing 48 games in the NHL...I know it's been done, and it just may happen, but I think they will agree on a raise for a year, then if he does net 40+ goals, go from there...
 
then again, you can flip the coin and Holland may want to give him a contract for about 4 years at a modest raise of around $3M-$4M, then if Brunner does put up 40 goals or more, he has him for a nice discount....

He's played 50 or more games in a season for the past 6 years. Unless you don't consider international games or playoff as important.
By the end of this year he will have played over 80 games this season. He's played nearly the most game of any wings this hockey season, but again, that's if you disvalue international and European leagues.

He's well worth it, this guy knows where to find the open ice, knows how to avoid hits, and loves to shoot. Sign him for 2.8-3.6 per season for 3-4 years.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 02:09 AM

Thing is his agent won't let him sign until right before the draft. The more games he plays the higher his price tag rises.



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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:50 AM

Thing is his agent won't let him sign until right before the draft. The more games he plays the higher his price tag rises.


So long as he doesnt get hurt. Id rather get a fair deal in place if I were him. Lots of danger in the NHL for speedy small forwards.





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