Danielsm 244 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Martin St Louis is currently in first for points with only a few games remaining. If we wins the Art Ross, will he be the oldest player too do so? Man this guy is so underrated. 2 Hockeymom1960 and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 He's too small to be effective in the tough eastern conference. 8 SaCkaveli20, CaliforniaWingsFan, Datsyuk Fan and 5 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Yes, he would be the oldest I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 While I don't think St Louis is really all that underrated (he's widely regarded as a great player), the past 5 or so years has been so lackluster for Tampa as a team. Every year I look at their roster and see such a potent offensive, especially top 6 and their defense and goaltending just screws it all up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 No discredit to him in the slightest but Kunitz has 50 points on a line with Crosby all season.. A lot of credit due to Mr. Stamkos but still an incredible accomplishment for St. Louis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Like many sports, in hockey size has always been considered important. Good to see St. Louis prove that a smaller guy can be a very effective NHL player, especially in this era where players are bigger and stronger than they used to be. 1 Danielsm reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kindl Surprise 47 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Seems like a great guy, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 He's too small to be effective in the tough eastern conference. Lol. For real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukDangles13 5 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Too bad St. Louis and Stamkos don't help their team win. They allow as many as they get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 No discredit to him in the slightest but Kunitz has 50 points on a line with Crosby all season.. A lot of credit due to Mr. Stamkos but still an incredible accomplishment for St. Louis. Well, I think Stamkos owes a lot to St. Louis to be honest. There's no doubt St. Louis wouldn't have the stats he has without Stamkos, but it goes the other way too. Stamkos is a sniper, he needs a good set up guy. For St. Louis's acceptance speech, he first needs to thank the puck that smashed Crosby's jaw into several pieces, without that, he might be about 20 points behind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 No discredit to him in the slightest but Kunitz has 50 points on a line with Crosby all season.. A lot of credit due to Mr. Stamkos but still an incredible accomplishment for St. Louis. St Louis is one of the best playmakers in the game. No way is he a product of Stamkos, he was playing the same way before Stamkos was there. 3 St. Michael (the Red Wing), martinezsvsu and Z Winged Dangler reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Great to see St Louis have such a great year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 He's too small to be effective in the tough eastern conference. But... power forwards. Siiize. In all seriousness, I really hope he gets it. For his age, Tampa's place in the league... it'd just be pretty cool to see. And to those who cite Stamkos as the reason for his numbers, I think you could argue it the other way around as well. Stamkos is a great trigger man, but St. Louis is a fantastic playmaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Like many sports, in hockey size has always been considered important. Good to see St. Louis prove that a smaller guy can be a very effective NHL player, especially in this era where players are bigger and stronger than they used to be. If you've got a power forward who can skate like the wind and snipe like a mofo, you can be a small guy. Put Abdelkader and Cleary with St. Louis and tell me how it turns out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achildr1 255 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 St Louis is one of the best playmakers in the game. No way is he a product of Stamkos, he was playing the same way before Stamkos was there. Your right, on one hand. I'm not gonna try to find the quote but I think St. Louis actually said aomething about playing with Stamkos will probably extend his career several years and I would agree. I don't think St. Louis puts up these numbers at this stage in his career withoutStamkos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 St Louis is one of the best playmakers in the game. No way is he a product of Stamkos, he was playing the same way before Stamkos was there. Bang on. He won the Art Ross in 2004 as well in the clutch and grab era. Stamkos didn't come along until 6 years later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Crazy 201 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 St. Louis is one of the best play makers in the game. Stamkos needs him as much as any play maker needs a sniper. Can you imagine what Pavel's numbers would look like with Stamkos on his wing? Deadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Resetti 44 Report post Posted April 25, 2013 Although Stamkos is a fantastic young player, it seems like he never scores goals without the help of St. Louis. I would safely wager that more than 50% of his goals has an assist from St. Louis. At any rate, it's pretty cool to see a guy that old win the Art Ross trophy - even if it was obviously due to an injury to someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Other than being the oldest, he'd also set another record, longest time between Art Ross trophies (9 years). 1 Danielsm reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 I've always liked St. Louis. Found a good home in Tampa and excelled. Also not a Euro. Tough little French Nuck to play against and his point numbers prove it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted April 26, 2013 I've always liked St. Louis. Found a good home in Tampa and excelled. Also not a Euro. Tough little French Nuck to play against and his point numbers prove it. Funny, cuz I've never liked him. I don't like frenchies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Funny, cuz I've never liked him. I don't like frenchies. Me either but I made an exception with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Me either but I made an exception with him. Yah. He's tollerable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Johnz96 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Well, I think Stamkos owes a lot to St. Louis to be honest. There's no doubt St. Louis wouldn't have the stats he has without Stamkos, but it goes the other way too. Stamkos is a sniper, he needs a good set up guy. For St. Louis's acceptance speech, he first needs to thank the puck that smashed Crosby's jaw into several pieces, without that, he might be about 20 points behind. If they tried as hard defensively they wouldn't score nearly as many points but they'd probably be in the playoffs and the Pens would have beat the Flyers last year. Edited April 26, 2013 by Johnz96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FifeHockeyNut 57 Report post Posted April 26, 2013 Really hope he wins the Art Ross, saw him score a hat-trick the other night and he was the star of the show, certainly not just benefitting from playing with Stamkos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
