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Wings buy out Colaiacovo, will keep Bertuzzi

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Hey, Bootland scored 20 goals the last two seasons. He's improved since he left the Odessa Jackalopes.

I'm all for it.

:lol: Get er done Kenny. He'll "keep the flies off" for Babs.

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First, I want Sammy bought out as much as anyone. That said, if I were Samuelsson, I would do everything in my power to avoid that fate. I think most everyone would.

I wouldn't have the gall to do so after having such a piss-poor, injury-filled season and seeing my team improve without me.

I don't think Holland will do this. He was quoted weeks ago saying that getting a healthy Samuelsson was like picking up a UFA. Plus, the deadline just expired for buyouts.

That's quite a paraphrase.

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In case it hasn't been posted already, it's official.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/07/carlo_colaiacovo_clears_waiver.html

Colaiacovo cleared waivers and was bought out. It gives the Wings $2.5 million of cap space and the Wings pay two-thirds of his salary $1.9 million.

So he made whatever his pro-rated $2.15 mill for last season was, plus another $1.9 for playing a total of 6 regular season and 9 playoff games as a Red Wing.

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I wouldn't have the gall to do so after having such a piss-poor, injury-filled season and seeing my team improve without me.

The guy can't help he got injured. Besides, no one thinks, "Gosh, the Wings singed me to a multi-year contract, but I got hurt the first year. I suppose I should just give up on the whole contract. Boo hoo."

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Hey, Bootland scored 20 goals the last two seasons. He's improved since he left the Odessa Jackalopes.

I'm all for it.

Hey I love Bootylicious!!

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In case it hasn't been posted already, it's official.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/07/carlo_colaiacovo_clears_waiver.html

Colaiacovo cleared waivers and was bought out. It gives the Wings $2.5 million of cap space and the Wings pay two-thirds of his salary $1.9 million.

So he made whatever his pro-rated $2.15 mill for last season was, plus another $1.9 for playing a total of 6 regular season and 9 playoff games as a Red Wing.

Sounds like he did alright for himself...Now if he'll get signed by another team...That remains to be seen.

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The guy can't help he got injured. Besides, no one thinks, "Gosh, the Wings singed me to a multi-year contract, but I got hurt the first year. I suppose I should just give up on the whole contract. Boo hoo."

And this justifies the use of a nonsense injury claim in the process?

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Acording to Capgeek, Cleary made $3M last year. You want him to take a 50% pay cut. Did you watch the playoffs this year? He was really good.

Rage away

I'd prefer he wasn't paid at all. He played one good series in the playoffs, and I believe 2 goals he scored were bounced off of him by Datsyuk. Cleary ******* sucks and certainly doesn't deserve to remain the same or even a $.2k raise, he deserves to have his ass sent to the Flames to fade away into nothing.

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I just don't get the Daniel Cleary hate. He is durable, has a big heart, one tough bastard and veteran presence. Is it based on salary/years? I would take him on my team any day.

Durability: ** GP (Games Played)/GS (Games Scheduled) = % PLAYED (Games Played)

Regular Season

YEAR GP/GS % PLAYED

05-06 = 77/82 = 94%
06-07 = 71/82 = 87%

07-08 = 63/82 = 77%
08-09 = 74/82 = 90%
09-10 = 64/82 = 78%
10-11 = 68/82 = 83%
11-12 = 75/82 = 92%
12-13 = 48/48 = 100%

Playoffs

YEAR GP/GS % PLAYED

05-06 = 6/6 = 100%
06-07 = 18/18 = 100%
07-08 = 22/22 = 100%
08-09 = 23/23 = 100%
09-10 = 12/12 = 100%
10-11 = 11/11 = 100%
11-12 = 5/5 = 100%
12-13 = 14/14 = 100%

Scheduled Games Played:

Season Avg: 88% (540/622)

Playoffs Avg: 100% (111/111) Scheduled Games Played (NEVER a healthy scratch)

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Some of those games he SHOULD have been scratched. Esp. this year's playoffs after getting smashed into the boards behind the net. Tell me he was the best option skating around out there with THAT. But no, he is durable. Effective? That's another argument. Good puck handler? Strong Skater? Sniper? Good defensively? Not really....but he IS durable. Dammit.

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I just don't get the Daniel Cleary hate. He is durable, has a big heart, one tough bastard and veteran presence. Is it based on salary/years? I would take him on my team any day.

Durability: ** GP (Games Played)/GS (Games Scheduled) = % PLAYED (Games Played)

Regular Season

YEAR GP/GS % PLAYED

05-06 = 77/82 = 94%

06-07 = 71/82 = 87%

07-08 = 63/82 = 77%

08-09 = 74/82 = 90%

09-10 = 64/82 = 78%

10-11 = 68/82 = 83%

11-12 = 75/82 = 92%

12-13 = 48/48 = 100%

Playoffs

YEAR GP/GS % PLAYED

05-06 = 6/6 = 100%

06-07 = 18/18 = 100%

07-08 = 22/22 = 100%

08-09 = 23/23 = 100%

09-10 = 12/12 = 100%

10-11 = 11/11 = 100%

11-12 = 5/5 = 100%

12-13 = 14/14 = 100%

Scheduled Games Played:

Season Avg: 88% (540/622)

Playoffs Avg: 100% (111/111) Scheduled Games Played (NEVER a healthy scratch)

My theory is he was asked to play a bigger role than he probably should have at this point in his career so he struggled at times. Combined with his type of game being not being very pretty.

Then once you become the whipping boy here it doesn't really matter what actually happens on the ice. Cleary was 2nd on the team in playoff scoring and people try to dismiss all his points.

If it's so easy why couldn't Franzen, who's much bigger than Cleary and wasn't playing with a separated shoulder, manage to get to the front of the net "and have pucks hit him?" Or Flip for that matter?

A big part of the answer is because Cleary is willing to do what Homer did. Pay the price to earn his spot in front of the net and stand there as someone rockets a slapshot at him. If you watch Mule, he often spins out of the way before the puck gets to him.

As I said before, if Cleary is re-signed and he ends up playing a lot of minutes on the top 6 and PP, that's not his fault. That's Hollands. Cleary's larger role on the offense is a symptom of a bigger problem, but it doesn't make him a bad player.

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And this justifies the use of a nonsense injury claim in the process?

Justifies? Not necessarily. But it's certainly understandable in the real world.

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I just don't get the Daniel Cleary hate. He is durable, has a big heart, one tough bastard and veteran presence. Is it based on salary/years? I would take him on my team any day.

Durability: ** GP (Games Played)/GS (Games Scheduled) = % PLAYED (Games Played)

Regular Season

YEAR GP/GS % PLAYED

05-06 = 77/82 = 94%

06-07 = 71/82 = 87%

07-08 = 63/82 = 77%

08-09 = 74/82 = 90%

09-10 = 64/82 = 78%

10-11 = 68/82 = 83%

11-12 = 75/82 = 92%

12-13 = 48/48 = 100%

Playoffs

YEAR GP/GS % PLAYED

05-06 = 6/6 = 100%

06-07 = 18/18 = 100%

07-08 = 22/22 = 100%

08-09 = 23/23 = 100%

09-10 = 12/12 = 100%

10-11 = 11/11 = 100%

11-12 = 5/5 = 100%

12-13 = 14/14 = 100%

Scheduled Games Played:

Season Avg: 88% (540/622)

Playoffs Avg: 100% (111/111) Scheduled Games Played (NEVER a healthy scratch)

Thats great that Cleary "Played" those games. But realize that he shows up in max 50% of them - he looks hurt and ineffective in the rest.

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Cleary is the hockey equivalent of a senior citizen. He's slow, he has trouble bending over to flip or move the puck, he falls easily, and he is prone to some frustrating mental gaffes. He still works as hard as he can, but that's just not enough anymore. When his talent and drive were coupled with a functioning body, he was an excellent player, but these days the will just doesn't have a way.

I won't be sad to see him gone. Holland's main interest in him seems to stem from the guy's status as a veteran leader in the locker room.

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Just gotta say, read Colaiacovo's interview with the team website ( http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=676419&navid=DL|DET|home ) and it's pretty clear that Carlo is a classy guy. I was a little bummed to see him go as I thought he was one of the surprising players in the playoffs relative to missing the whole year. I get why it went down, but it's too bad those injuries follow him around. Might've ended differently for him here.

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Cleary is the hockey equivalent of a senior citizen. He's slow, he has trouble bending over to flip or move the puck, he falls easily, and he is prone to some frustrating mental gaffes. He still works as hard as he can, but that's just not enough anymore. When his talent and drive were coupled with a functioning body, he was an excellent player, but these days the will just doesn't have a way.

I won't be sad to see him gone. Holland's main interest in him seems to stem from the guy's status as a veteran leader in the locker room.

Cleary was possibly on his way to winning the Conn Smythe trophy this season, before his teammates "conveniently" blew a 3-1 series lead.

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Just gotta say, read Colaiacovo's interview with the team website ( http://redwings.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=676419&navid=DL|DET|home ) and it's pretty clear that Carlo is a classy guy. I was a little bummed to see him go as I thought he was one of the surprising players in the playoffs relative to missing the whole year. I get why it went down, but it's too bad those injuries follow him around. Might've ended differently for him here.

He's a decent player, just made of glass. Hes need to go play in Switzerland or some other decent euro league where its less of an issue.

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I don't think I necessarily said that Clears is anything above a 3rd liner at best (I'm too lazy to look back, correct me if I'm wrong) and I agree with some of the senior citizens comments lol. However, I personally think that intangibles that he is a respected veteran locker room voice, allegedly and his durability (I still think that this plays a big role for consistency, but I concede to the inability of 100% (65% - 85% max).)

Cleary certainly plays an important all-around role even if he isn't 100% in any of them (especially his horrendous skating "ability" lol.) It appears that a lot of hate comes from either the prospect of him re-signing or if he is re-signed the terms would be unexceptable. I guess it's just my opinion as a huge fan of the Red Wing. I definitely respect all of your replies :D

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The whole Sammy non buyout reminds me of our past experiences of Uwe Krupp. The good news we only signed the guy for 2 years.

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