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Wings sign Alfredsson to 1-year, $3.5m deal (+$2m bonuses)

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Rumo(u)r has it "Alfie" sneezed in public, on a crowded street in Ottawa, and no one said, "(God) bless you." When asked about it, a few of the people who'd been there said, "Well, he didn't say, 'excuse me.'" For his part, Eugene Melynk defended General Manager Bryan Murray, saying, "I know Bryan. We work together. He wouldn't lie about this." Which is interesting because Murray hadn't said anything about the incident.

Apparently after that he forgot to use his turn signal when switching lanes. Everyone is outraged, and Melnyk sais "it goes to show what kind of guy he really is, he has complete disregard for the human race!"

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Didn't Bourque get dealt to the Avs at the trade deadline? Or am I remembering it wrong?

No, you're right there. The only similarity one might be able to strike between the two is that of course Bourque requested to be moved, but that's really as far as the similarities go.

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I'm sorry, but, like I said in the new enemies thread, this whole "Similar record" business smells.

The Red Wings are the Red Wings. The Senators are...the Senators. I mean, bless their hearts - but what have they ever done? "Well, this one time they almost won the Cup." OK, great, they almost won the Cup once. My point stands.

Even last year - they got torched by a Penguins team which was absolutely destroyed by a Bruins team which was beaten decisively and definitively by a Blackhawks team which we had had on the ropes, 3-1 (before we forgot how to play hockey, which, admittedly, is a problem with us).

And that was without Lidstrom, Rafalski, Stuart. And, for the most part, DeKeyser. We were a team "in transition" (or, "reloading"), not a team that was looking about as "stacked" as ever (see: the Sens).

Maybe the Sens finish above us this year. I highly, highly doubt it, though. And you can bet it wasn't just the money (or the Swedes) that Alfie had in mind when he signed here.

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Boy, I don't remember Boston going this crazy for Ray Bourque wanting to win a Cup before he retired.

Not only did they not go crazy, they fully supported their captain! I remember seeing Bourque fans wearing half Boston, half Colorado jerseys in support of his quest for the Cup.

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True, these are different situations, but it kind of sucks that fans are harshing on their longtime captain like they are.

I personally would have supported Stevie if this were an alternate universe where the Wings could not win a Cup (or win that much in general) and he left to spend his last season with a team that had a legitimate shot.

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I personally would have supported Stevie if this were an alternate universe where the Wings could not win a Cup (or win that much in general) and he left to spend his last season with a team that had a legitimate shot.

My impression is that Sens fans feel their shot is just as legitimate as ours.

Something no one's talking about: he picked the Wings over the Bruins.

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My impression is that Sens fans feel their shot is just as legitimate as ours.

Something no one's talking about: he picked the Wings over the Bruins.

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My impression is that Sens fans feel their shot is just as legitimate as ours.

Something no one's talking about: he picked the Wings over the Bruins.

That's saying something to Sens fans.

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I miss him and Homer. We saw last year what a huge impact Homer had on this team, no one can fill his shoes.

It's funny, given how many perfectionists here were pissed that he was on the team at all in his last two seasons.

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I miss him and Homer. We saw last year what a huge impact Homer had on this team, no one can fill his shoes.

Obviously the perfect human will be even more missed this season (82 compared to 47 games)but I also miss former great role players such as Holmer, Downey, McCarty you know the non flashy guys who's presence helped on and off the ice.

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Not sure this deserved its own thread, but looks like Melnyk is doing some shady stuff:

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2013/8/25/4657074/travis-yost-hacked-eugene-melnyk-ottawa-senators-finances

Over much of the 2013 offseason, Hockeybuzz blogger Travis Yost reported on the financial woes of Ottawa Senators owner Eugene Melnyk. As of Sunday morning, however, every single post that Yost wrote in the past several years has disappeared from Hockeybuzz's website, and Yost's Twitter account has vanished from the web.

If you connect the dots, it seems possible that Melnyk -- at least tangentially -- has something to do with the disappearance of Yost's work.

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It's funny, given how many perfectionists here were pissed that he was on the team at all in his last two seasons.

An aging vet who falls down a lot but plays fearless, does the dirty work, and is all heart, yet in spite of that people act like he's total garbage and can't wait to kick him off the team?

hmm... that sounds strangely familiar.

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An aging vet who falls down a lot but plays fearless, does the dirty work, and is all heart, yet in spite of that people act like he's total garbage and can't wait to kick him off the team?

hmm... that sounds strangely familiar.

I'd say the big difference is Holmstrom was a specialist. No one could do what he could do, even when he was at the end of his career.

Cleary? We like his..."veteran leadership."

Unless you're talking about Alfredsson?

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I'd say the big difference is Holmstrom was a specialist. No one could do what he could do, even when he was at the end of his career.

Cleary? We like his..."veteran leadership."

Unless you're talking about Alfredsson?

Cleary. No one could replace Homer's skills in screening and deflecting pucks but Cleary picked up a lot of the slack left by him. Fearless in front of the net, retrieving pucks from the corners, not afraid to go to any part of the ice.

And Cleary gave a lot more to this team than veteran leadership. To be clear I'm not saying the Wings should re-sign him. They're neck deep in forwards and I have doubts about Cleary's health going forward. But the vitriol for him here was ridiculous. People acted like it was Cleary's fault he was getting PP time and not a shortcoming of the roster.

He's a warrior and was second on the team in scoring behind only Zetterberg. And those points weren't luck. You make your own luck through hard work, which Cleary did every shift. What he did wasn't pretty, but it was effective.

My point was in terms of how people talk about Cleary, it's reminiscent of how they talked about Homer near the end, only worse. It's always interesting to see what players become almost like a mascot here who can do no wrong, and how people start to sour on other players and it quickly snowballs.

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For the record (and I said this is one of the other threads): I love Cleary's heart, grit, determination, will, etc. I love Postseason Cleary. That Holland seems to want him back even now - it makes me think he really is very valuable as a leader, motivating force, teacher. And, hey, a good ole no-nonsense Canadian? Can never have too many of those on a hockey team.

Except, Cleary's old. And his knees don't work. And pace is a big issue. And he doesn't have a "specialty" like Holmstrom did. And we're talking about a full season now. 82 games, probably plus the playoffs.

Now, you could maybe make the same aguments against Alfredsson. Except, you can't. Even at 40, or however old he is, he's still a pretty dynamic force (relatively speaking). He's a guy who could, I think, really fit in the top-six without it feeling forced and super-cringeworthy.

Slightly bigger picture: Alfredsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Samuelsson. And we're supposed to be getting younger...?

But I don't want to turn this into a Cleary thread or anything like that.

Poor Yost. :confused:

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An aging vet who falls down a lot but plays fearless, does the dirty work, and is all heart, yet in spite of that people act like he's total garbage and can't wait to kick him off the team?

hmm... that sounds strangely familiar.

Call me when Cleary becomes one of the best net-front presences in the league and an important part of the power play. Beaten-up, slow, 39-year-old Holmstrom in his last season was valuable in ways that 2013 Cleary wasn't.

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Call me when Cleary becomes one of the best net-front presences in the league and an important part of the power play. Beaten-up, slow, 39-year-old Holmstrom in his last season was valuable in ways that 2013 Cleary wasn't.

Conversely, Cleary did many things that Holmstrom never could. Nobody could replace Holmstrom's ability in front of the net. I would argue Cleary was one of the few on the team willing/able to fill that role. In fact, Cleary and Abdelkader were the two forwards consistently willing to play in the tough areas of the ice last season.

The point still holds true. You ripped anyone that didn't want Holmstrom around, yet practically everyone here loves to jump on the anti-Cleary bandwagon.

To clarify, I don't want Cleary back either, but the whipping boy status Cleary has garnered went way overboard.

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Conversely, Cleary did many things that Holmstrom never could. Nobody could replace Holmstrom's ability in front of the net. I would argue Cleary was one of the few on the team willing/able to fill that role. In fact, Cleary and Abdelkader were the two forwards consistently willing to play in the tough areas of the ice last season.

I know this was directed at Crymson and stuff, but, I just want to say, I'm really not sure why there's this great big battle over Cleary. Like, I get that people think other people went, like, way overboard in trashing him. But...so what? What's the angle? "HE HAS HEART. AND WILLINGNESS." OK, got it. Thing is, he's also over-the-hill. His knees don't work. The season's 82+ games long. And even Ken Holland - Ken Holland! - seems to have jumped off the Cleary ship, so to speak.

I dunno. I guess I feel like, if we've got a problem with our net-font game (and we do), and Dan Cleary is, like, the only guy keeping it afloat...that's a serious, serious problem. And the solution, I think, isn't to just hold Cleary until he's 65 years old. Maybe we get exposed, and, in turn, pounded. I'd be ok with that, because (you'd think) it would force Holland's hand (i.e. he'd have to pick someone up. Maybe, I dunno, a legitimate power-forward. Or, hey, maybe one of the 8 billion "grinder-type" guys we have could step up to the proverbial plate.)

I think Bertuzzi will be counted on to take that beating in front of the net, to a reasonable extent. I think Tatar likes playing in that area. I think Franzen has shown a willingness....

I think Weiss could be Cleary 2.0, in a good way.

I think Alfredsson is gonna battle like the badass-old-geezer-who-just-pissed-off-an-entire-city that he is.

I don't see much of a need for Cleary, and I think on this much, at least, we can all agree.

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I know this was directed at Crymson and stuff, but, I just want to say, I'm really not sure why there's this great big battle over Cleary. Like, I get that people think other people went, like, way overboard in trashing him. But...so what? What's the angle? "HE HAS HEART. AND WILLINGNESS." OK, got it. Thing is, he's also over-the-hill. His knees don't work. The season's 82+ games long. And even Ken Holland - Ken Holland! - seems to have jumped off the Cleary ship, so to speak.

I dunno. I guess I feel like, if we've got a problem with our net-font game (and we do), and Dan Cleary is, like, the only guy keeping it afloat...that's a serious, serious problem. And the solution, I think, isn't to just hold Cleary until he's 65 years old. Maybe we get exposed, and, in turn, pounded. I'd be ok with that, because (you'd think) it would force Holland's hand (i.e. he'd have to pick someone up. Maybe, I dunno, legitimate power-forward. Or, hey, mabe one of the 8 billion "grinder-type" guys we have could step up to the proverbial plate.)

I thin Bertuzzi will be counted on to take that beating in front of the net, to a reasonable extent. I think Tatar likes playing in that area. I think Franzen has showed a willingness....

I think Weiss could be Cleary 2.0, in a good way.

I think Alfredsson is gonna battle like the badass-old-geezer-who-just-pissed-off-an-entire-city that he is.

I don't see much of a need for Cleary, and I think on this much, at least, we can all agree.

Basically this. Whether you like Cleary or hate him there really is absolutely no upside of bringing him back at this point.

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