PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/emmerton-on-waivers Quotes Bob Mackenzie He really seemed like the odd man out to me. I know Helm cosideration were supposed to keep him around, but I guess not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Make Cleary the new 4th line center maybe. OK, more realistically Miller will probably slide over to that spot with Helm out. 1 drw138 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Barring the promotion of Glendening or one of the other AHL centers, Emmerton will likely be back with the Wings at season's start. Waiving him was a calculated move to free up cap space ahead of tomorrow's deadline, as Emmerton is totally unremarkable and certainly clear.Nyquist and DeKeyser will be sent down soon, as they are both are waiver-exempt. The combination of Nyquist, Emmerton, and DeKeyser will free up the necessary cap space and roster space until certain players are put on IR; at that stage, DeKeyser will be brought back to the team, and perhaps Emmerton and Nyquist as well. Edited September 29, 2013 by Crymson 1 Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Of the guys "on the bubble" I'd assume Emmerton is most likely to clear. Also, wasn't there a rule in the old CBA (not sure if it is in the new one) that if a player is picked up on reentry waivers that the old team was still responsible for half the salary cap hit wise? If that's still in place, I could see that as another reason for him to be on waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Of the guys "on the bubble" I'd assume Emmerton is most likely to clear. Also, wasn't there a rule in the old CBA (not sure if it is in the new one) that if a player is picked up on reentry waivers that the old team was still responsible for half the salary cap hit wise? If that's still in place, I could see that as another reason for him to be on waivers. Re-entry waivers were eliminated. They do not exist in the current CBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 He'll be back unless Helm is ready; this was a calculated move to free up cap space ahead of tomorrow's deadline, as Emmerton will almost certainly clear waivers. Tootoo and Samuelsson will perhaps follow, and Nyquist and DeKeyser will be sent down. The latter two are waiver-exempt, while Holland clearly wants to be rid of Samuelsson and Tootoo. Samuelsson is almost certain to not be claimed, but this will at least free up a roster spot. The combination of Nyquist, Emmerton, and DeKeyser will free up the necessary cap space until certain players are put on IR; at that stage, Emmerton and DeKeyser will be brought back to the team, and perhaps Nyquist as well. Helm won't be back according to Helene St James. Being put on LTIR tomorrow. With that & Emmerton being sent down, the Wings are under the cap. Just one body then to move off the roster until Helm is healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Re-entry waivers were eliminated. They do not exist in the current CBA. Thanks for the clarification. So much for that thought. Still, I think he's likely to clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Still, I think he's likely to clear. Absolutely. He's a disposable fourth-line plug. He's small and not notably good at anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PavelValerievichDatsyuk 1,935 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Helm won't be back according to Helene St James. Being put on LTIR tomorrow. With that & Emmerton being sent down, the Wings are under the cap. Just one body then to move off the roster until Helm is healthy. I think Eaves will be on LTIR as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheXym 2,606 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I think Eaves will be on LTIR as well As do I. 1 sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I hope he clears. 2 Hockeymom1960 and jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogreslayer 1,069 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I think Eaves will be on LTIR as well That certainly is a possibility but I do wonder why the word is starting to circulate on Helm already & not Eaves too if that is going to be the case. If Eaves is going to wind up there, I think we've seen the only waiver moves the Wings will make today unless they do try to get to the cap ceiling prior to putting those two on LTIR in order to maximize their allowable cap overage. Barring the promotion of Glendening or one of the other AHL centers, Emmerton will likely be back with the Wings at season's start. Waiving him was a calculated move to free up cap space ahead of tomorrow's deadline, as Emmerton is totally unremarkable and certainly clear. Nyquist and DeKeyser will be sent down soon, as they are both are waiver-exempt. The combination of Nyquist, Emmerton, and DeKeyser will free up the necessary cap space and roster space until certain players are put on IR; at that stage, DeKeyser will be brought back to the team, and perhaps Emmerton and Nyquist as well. Nyquist, DeKeyser, & Emmerton alone don't solve the Wings' cap overage. $25k of Nyquist's salary still counts, DeKeyser's base salary is only $500k with the rest being a bonus that will be deferred to next season, & Emmerton's at $533,333 for a grand total of $1,958,333 vs. a current cap overage once all bonuses are forwarded to next season of $2,387,879. (Granted, Helm being put on LTIR tomorrow & Emmerton going through waivers takes care of the cap issue until Helm's healthy) Edited September 29, 2013 by ogreslayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Personally very indifferent whether he clears or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I honestly hope someone claims him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I honestly hope someone claims him. As do I. I think he'd at least have a shot somewhere else, that way. Detroit's got Helm, Andersson, Sheahan, Glendening and maybe Aubry who can play center in our bottom six. There's simply no room for Emmerton, and Glendening has clearly outplayed him all camp/pre-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterPavel 115 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I honestly hope someone claims him.Axedog is gonna be mad at Eurodog lol 2 Euro_Twins and 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I might be wrong on what I said earlier: The Wheel Deal @Bill_Roose With Emmerton on waivers, #RedWings think Joakim Andersson, Riley Sheahan & Luke Glendening can be viable 4th-line contributors in '13-14. Nyquist, DeKeyser, & Emmerton alone don't solve the Wings' cap overage. $25k of Nyquist's salary still counts, DeKeyser's base salary is only $500k with the rest being a bonus that will be deferred to next season, & Emmerton's at $533,333 for a grand total of $1,958,333 vs. a current cap overage once all bonuses are forwarded to next season of $2,387,879. (Granted, Helm being put on LTIR tomorrow & Emmerton going through waivers takes care of the cap issue until Helm's healthy) According to CapGeek, DeKeyser's cap hit this season is $850K. $850K plus $900K from Nyquist plus $533K for Emmerton equals $2.283m, which puts the Wings just over $100K above the cap. Bollocks. Edited September 29, 2013 by Crymson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I might be wrong on what I said earlier: The Wheel Deal @Bill_Roose With Emmerton on waivers, #RedWings think Joakim Andersson, Riley Sheahan & Luke Glendening can be viable 4th-line contributors in '13-14. According to CapGeek, DeKeyser's cap hit this season is $850K. $850K plus $900K from Nyquist plus $533K for Emmerton equals $2.28m, which puts the Wings .1m over the cap. Bollocks. Yeah, they're clearly done with the "EmDog" experiment. I really think only Glendening should be up with the team - Riley's going to benefit way more playing in a line with Jurco in GR. Big minutes, focus on offensive production. Glendening's really looked solid in a 4th line role, imo. I like what he brings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Glendening was my first thought when I saw this thread. He seems to have a drive and hustle that I don't see in Emmerton. I too hope Emmerton gets claimed, I have no problem with Glendening or Andy being up with the big club in his place. Emmerton to me has always been the most "disposable" piece of the team, like someone up top said he just doesn't impress either way to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Always thought of him as a GR player for life. I think some teams will need his kind of depth and will give him more of a shot in the nhl than the wings will Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Glendening wouldn't help the too-many-players problem. I fear this means Cleary to the top line, with Abdelkader centering the third or fourth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 I think Emmerton's value on the PK is being under appreciated here a bit. He deserves a bit of respect for that. That being said, he's a replaceable. But I'm confused: how would swapping Emmerton with Glendenning relieve the cap and roster squeeze? 1 jimmyemeryhunter reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 If that's the case, the club likely would send forward Gustav Nyquist to Grand Rapids, at least temporarily. Nyquist is one of two players (defenseman Danny DeKeyser the other) who is exempt from waivers. Sending him down would clear $950,000 from the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) Actually, Glendening wouldn't help either of our problems, would he? His cap hit is bigger than Emmerton's (unless I' mistaken), and he's another body. Please no Cleary on the top line. For the love of all that is sacred and holy. Edited September 29, 2013 by Dabura 2 LidsFan and sjr2012 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted September 29, 2013 Yeah, set Emmerton free. Glendenning is definitely more noticeable and can actually produce a bit on the 4rth line. Other teams will be excited to get what Emmy can give. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites