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#1 DatsyukToZetterberg

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

Per St. James on Twitter, Cleary will be in and Tatar will sit against the Caps. I really hope we didn't want to score any goals on Friday...

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:02 PM

LOL

 

Edit : Sammy, Cleary > Tootoo, Eaves, Nyquist, Tatar, 


Edited by CMatt89, 14 November 2013 - 01:05 PM.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:06 PM

LOL
 
Edit : Sammy, Cleary > Tootoo, Eaves, Nyquist, Tatar, 

Unfortunately...that's exactly how it's been. I'm surprised both Nyquist and Tatar haven't asked for a trade.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:25 PM

So Babcock finally sits an old broken down vet who hasn't been good in years...and then he changes his mind and brings him back AND he benches a young, fast, scoring forward...

 

What the actual f***...

 

 

Unfortunately...that's exactly how it's been. I'm surprised both Nyquist and Tatar haven't asked for a trade.

 

Completely agree. I wouldn't even be mad.  I would be sad, but I could not blame them.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:26 PM

I've stopped trying to figure this out.  I'm not going to go all crazy and say CLEARY SUCKS, but seriously, Cleary sucks.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:28 PM

So Babcock finally sits an old broken down vet who hasn't been good in years...and then he changes his mind and brings him back AND he benches a young, fast, scoring forward...
 
What the actual f***...
 
 
 
Completely agree. I wouldn't even be mad.  I would be sad, but I could not blame them.

This entire post exactly. They both have every right to with how horribly Holland has mismanaged them thus far. Samuelsson and Cleary should've been waived, not Tootoo and Eaves.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:40 PM

Such a shame. Babcock will do anything to get his buddy Cleary producing. Scary thing is what if he puts up 2 points tomorrow. He will be on that line for the rest of the year

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:41 PM

I think I'm more upset that Sammy is still in the lineup and Cleary is getting top 6 minutes. Its been a hard week to be a red wings fan can't say that too often.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:43 PM

I was taught if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:52 PM

Such a shame. Babcock will do anything to get his buddy Cleary producing. Scary thing is what if he puts up 2 points tomorrow. He will be on that line for the rest of the year

I think we can all bet our life savings on that not happening.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:54 PM

no one wants cleary in the lineup, that much we all know.

 

but are we supposed to pretend that tatar has been great over the last 5-6 games?

 

let's not kid ourselves.



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:58 PM

I give up.

 

EDIT:  You might want to look at this:

 

Tatar: 11 GP, 2 G, 1 A +1, 10% shooting accuracy, generates scoring chances and provides speed.

Cleary: 18 GP, 1 G, 2 A +1, 4% shooting accuracy, slow, falls down, loses the puck, never generates anything, usually breaks up his own offensive play.

 

Which do you think addresses our needs more? Regardless of whether Tatar hasn't looked great, benching isn't going to help.  We need to just ice a consistent team so they can generate chemistry.  All players go through rough patches.  Tatar's sub-par handful of games is better than Cleary's two years.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:58 PM

no one wants cleary in the lineup, that much we all know.
 
but are we supposed to pretend that tatar has been great over the last 5-6 games?
 
let's not kid ourselves.

He's been better than everyone not named Datsyuk, Zetterberg or Alfredsson on this team. And I'll counter this point with another: we honestly can't name ANYONE who could warrant a scratch besides Tatar?

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

Such a shame. Babcock will do anything to get his buddy Cleary producing. Scary thing is what if he puts up 2 points tomorrow. He will be on that line for the rest of the year

 

Every time he gets a point I'm filled with mixed emotions.

"WOOO! YEAH! Wings scored!"

*Daniel Cleary from Weiss at 12:21 in the Period*

"DAMMIT CLEARY! I mean, thanks for the goal...but stop padding your damn stats!"

 

 

I was taught if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all.

 

It's just constructive criticism of the Red Wings' managers.  I'm sure Cleary is a cool dude, but he's not playing at a level that is competitive in the National Hockey League.

 

 

I think we can all bet our life savings on that not happening.

 

You say that, but I'm going to be on the edge of my seat hoping for two things:

- Cleary doesn't cause a goal

- Cleary doesn't get a point

 

Fluke goals count just as much as a snipe


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

I see this as Babs giving Cleary "one last shot." Cleary's been scratched, and now he gets to respond, and show that he's more valuable than Tatar (and Nyquist), or, at the very least, that Holland wasn't a fool for re-signing him. If he doesn't impress, maybe he spends the rest of the regular season on the bench (or at least until we get destroyed by injuries).

 

That's my rationalization.


Edited by Dabura, 14 November 2013 - 02:01 PM.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:02 PM

Pretty sure the Cleary signing was all Babcock

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:05 PM

I'll believe this is Cleary's "last chance" when I see it.  


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:08 PM

Or maybe Tatar's been traded. And/Or maybe Babs just really doesn't like him.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:10 PM

This is just prepping us for the three-year NTC deal Cleary is going to get from Holland next summer.

I love this organization, but they are seriously losing their way the past few years.
 
 
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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:11 PM

I'm not saying I believe my rationalization. It's just, this is too easy. I feel like it's a trap. Like, if I say what you'd expect me to say, the world will implode, or something.


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