Trade deadline bait available this year?

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

56 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

Gusev is on pace to match AA's career high in points in his first NHL season. 

I also like how you seem to think hockey insiders are just hanging out on twitter waiting to answer fans questions. I get that you have too much free time in your hands, but I assure you that they do not.

Gusev is going to turn 28 in the summer , how is this even comparable ... imagine praising a 27 year old with 9 goals in his first season and thinking he can fetch a 1st while s***ting on a guy whos 4 goals shy in bad season lmao you guys are seriously amazing 

The f*** out of here man ive seen button and some people who arent message board insiders such as yourself answer fan questions before , i wouldnt want to ask s*** if i were you either dont worry

Edited February 3, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture

[marcaractac 3,963]

14 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Gusev is going to turn 28 in the summer , how is this even comparable ... imagine praising a 27 year old with 9 goals in his first season and thinking he can fetch a 1st while s***ting on a guy whos 4 goals shy in bad season lmao you guys are seriously amazing 

The f*** out of here man ive seen button and some people who arent message board insiders such as yourself answer fan questions before , i wouldnt want to ask s*** if i were you either dont worry

Wow he is a WHOLE TWO YEARS OLDER than AA. An absolute geezer, he is. The only one s***ting on anyone is you with Gusev. We have come to terms with the fact he has no future here. You clearly haven't. 

I guess only goals matter as well? To hell with assists, amirite? Let's just also ignore the fact that AA is a complete disaster without the puck and always has been. But he should fetch a king's ransom because he scored 30 goals one time. 

Let's see if you can try responding without acting like a 12 year old this time. 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

8 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

Wow he is a WHOLE TWO YEARS OLDER than AA. An absolute geezer, he is. The only one s***ting on anyone is you with Gusev. We have come to terms with the fact he has no future here. You clearly haven't. 

I guess only goals matter as well? To hell with assists, amirite? Let's just also ignore the fact that AA is a complete disaster without the puck and always has been. But he should fetch a king's ransom because he scored 30 goals one time. 

Let's see if you can try responding without acting like a 12 year old this time. 

how the f*** is he matching AA ...im sorry but goal production is more valued across the league and he’s gonna hit 15 , hes not even that far up ahead of AA today who everyone’s s***ting on and yet everyones pro gusev .... great two way player gusev , guess someone forgot to tell the coach that when he was stuck on the 4th line for all those games

We see what your gusev ends up with but i suspect itll be closer to 45 than 55 unless he gets another few 3 pt games

You want to compare him to someone on what the return might be check out nyquists stats when he got dealt, and he was on pace for higher pts than gusev

And for other hams bringing up miller,tatar etc... those guys had alot more nhl games on their resume and 4 yr terms left

Save your little 12 year old jabs for someone who’ll actually give a s***

 

[marcaractac 3,963]

1 minute ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

how the f*** is he matching AA ...im sorry but goal production is more valued across the league and he’s gonna hit 15 , hes not even that far up ahead of AA today who everyone’s s***ting on and yet everyones pro gusev .... great two way player gusev , guess someone forgot to tell the coach that when he was stuck on the 4th line for all those games

We see what your gusev ends up with but i suspect itll be closer to 45 than 55 unless he gets another few 3 pt games

You want to compare him to someone on what the return might be check out nyquists stats when he got dealt, and he was on pace for higher pts than gusev

And for other hams bringing up miller,tatar etc... those guys had alot more nhl games on their resume and 4 yr terms left

Save your little 12 year old jabs for someone who’ll actually give a s***

 

My Gusev? I don't give a s*** about Gusev. I'm just pointing out your irrational hate. But what can I expect from someone who puts so much stock into second round picks. 

#secondroundpicksarethefuture

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

Just now, marcaractac said:

My Gusev? I don't give a s*** about Gusev. I'm just pointing out your irrational hate. But what can I expect from someone who puts so much stock into second round picks. 

#secondroundpicksarethefuture

Not irrational hate im just the only sane one but hey keep thinking 15 goals and 45 pts with one single nhl season experience under your belt fetches you a 1st round pick lmao . Dont forget to take your pills before bedtime 

[marcaractac 3,963]

2 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Not irrational hate im just the only sane one but hey keep thinking 15 goals and 45 pts with one single nhl season experience under your belt fetches you a 1st round pick lmao . Dont forget to take your pills before bedtime 

I didn't say he'd fetch a first rounder. I said it's laughable that you think AA is worth a first and Gusev isnt. 

Like Gusev, AA is at the age where he is what he is. In AA's case, an inconsistent, one dimensional player. That's why a Puljujarvi return would be great. But you'd probably rather a second rounder.

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

AA

• 11 goal pace
• 43 point pace
• half year left on $3 mil contract (RFA)
• turns 26 in summer 2020

Gusev

• 15 goal pace
• 53 point pace
• 1 and half years left on $4.5 AAV contract (UFA)
• turns 28 in summer 2020

AA's only real advantage is the RFA control. I see these players selling for a very similar price. If one gets a 1st the other should too. If one isn't worth a 1st, then the other prolly isn't either.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

13 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

I didn't say he'd fetch a first rounder. I said it's laughable that you think AA is worth a first and Gusev isnt. 

Like Gusev, AA is at the age where he is what he is. In AA's case, an inconsistent, one dimensional player. That's why a Puljujarvi return would be great. But you'd probably rather a second rounder.

When the f*** did i say he would get a first today? Like you guys only see whatever the f*** it is you want to see i swear lmao 

For the last time i said hang on to AA for next season, if he bounces back and gets 30 again and 55-60 pts i see no reason why he wouldnt fetch a first 

Whatever you say , i know a few  years ago he was on pace for 25 goals , last year 30 so its not against the norm of possibilities that he can rebound and fetch 30 again if hes playing with people who arent named helm/glendening/nielsen

Id rather you stop acting like a 12 year old child 

Edited February 3, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture

[marcaractac 3,963]

9 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

AA

• 11 goal pace
• 43 point pace
• half year left on $3 mil contract (RFA)
• turns 26 in summer 2020

Gusev

• 15 goal pace
• 53 point pace
• 1 and half years left on $4.5 AAV contract (UFA)
• turns 28 in summer 2020

AA's only real advantage is the RFA control. I see these players selling for a very similar price. If one gets a 1st the other should too. If one isn't worth a 1st, then the other prolly isn't either.

Common sense DOES exist!

[ChristopherReevesLegs 7,022]

2 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

When the f*** did i say he would get a first today? Like you guys only see whatever the f*** it is you want to see i swear lmao 

For the last time i said hang on to AA for next season, if he bounces back and gets 30 again and 55-60 pts i see no reason why he wouldnt fetch a first 

Whatever you say , i know a few  years ago he was on pace for 25 goals , last year 30 so its not against the norm of possibilities that he can rebound and fetch 30 again if hes playing with people who arent named helm/glendening/nielsen

Id rather you stop acting like a 12 year old child 

Can you stop calling people 12 old children? I have a niece that is a 12 year old child so this is very offensive to me.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

Like i I said before its cute you all  found eachother and defend one another . Self harm is never the answer

Edited February 4, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture

[marcaractac 3,963]

18 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

When the f*** did i say he would get a first today? Like you guys only see whatever the f*** it is you want to see i swear lmao 

For the last time i said hang on to AA for next season, if he bounces back and gets 30 again and 55-60 pts i see no reason why he wouldnt fetch a first 

Whatever you say , i know a few  years ago he was on pace for 25 goals , last year 30 so its not against the norm of possibilities that he can rebound and fetch 30 again if hes playing with people who arent named helm/glendening/nielsen

Id rather you stop acting like a 12 year old child 

Kettle, meet pot

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

4 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

Kettle, meet pot

Exactly, nothing to say . Better that way

[marcaractac 3,963]

3 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Exactly, nothing to say . Better that way

You have nothing of value to say anyway. Hence why everyone ignores you on twitter. 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

12 minutes ago, marcaractac said:

You have nothing of value to say anyway. Hence why everyone ignores you on twitter. 

Lmao was that suppose to hurt me? How will i carry on 

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

11 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Lmao was that suppose to hurt me? How will i carry on 

AA last year was a 50 point winger. And was worth a 1st in your opinion.

Gusev is a 50 point winger this season, but isn't worth a 1st round pick in your opinion. Plus Gusev isnt a purely one dimensional player like AA, and he's right handed. Which could actually make him even more valuable to some teams.

Do you not see why some of us might find this nonsensical?

AA=50 points=1st round pick

Gusev=50 points=not worth a 1st round pick

By your logic.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

11 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

AA last year was a 50 point winger. And was worth a 1st in your opinion.

Gusev is a 50 point winger this season, but isn't worth a 1st round pick in your opinion. Plus Gusev isnt a purely one dimensional player like AA, and he's right handed. Which could actually make him even more valuable to some teams.

Do you not see why some of us might find this nonsensical?

AA=50 points=1st round pick

Gusev=50 points=not worth a 1st round pick

By your logic.

Here we go Again 

Dude Athanasiou also got 30 goals last season , gusev is at 9 and likely finishes around 15 how is that not a big difference to you? Also the season isnt over yet so he just as easily can  go 4-5 games without a pt and finish off around the 45 pt mark which is what i see happening ... time will tell

I see this gusev being more than one dimensional bs popping around but i recall him being on the 4th line for quite a while for not pulling his weight 

If AA bounces back next season and fetches 30 goals again in his career and hits  55+ That shows teams its not a fluke and we can fetch that first. Gusev has played a grand total of 48 nhl games in his career , nobody in their right minds would give up a first 

Check out nyquists stats when we dealt him , he was on pace for a better season than gusev and didnt fetch a first and id say he was a better two way guy . Thats your ballpark of what to expect when gusev gets dealt ,unless he walks

Anyways 

Edited February 4, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

36 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Here we go Again 

Dude Athanasiou also got 30 goals last season , gusev is at 9 and likely finishes around 15 how is that not a big difference to you? Also the season isnt over yet so he just as easily can  go 4-5 games without a pt and finish off around the 45 pt mark which is what i see happening ... time will tell

I see this gusev being more than one dimensional bs popping around but i recall him being on the 4th line for quite a while for not pulling his weight 

If AA bounces back next season and fetches 30 goals again in his career and hits  55+ That shows teams its not a fluke and we can fetch that first. Gusev has played a grand total of 48 nhl games in his career , nobody in their right minds would give up a first 

Check out nyquists stats when we dealt him , he was on pace for a better season than gusev and didnt fetch a first and id say he was a better two way guy . Thats your ballpark of what to expect when gusev gets dealt ,unless he walks

Anyways 

1. It's not all about goals. Would you rather have a guy with 30 goals and 10 assists or a guy with 20 goals and 30 assists? 

2. NJ gave up 2 picks, a 2nd and a 3rd, for Gusev before he even set foot on NHL ice. They were willing to give that up for a guy who could have turned out to be a bust. Now that he has proven he isn't a bust, and is on pace to hit 50 points( top 6 numbers regardless of how goals and assists are broken down), would it not be logical to think he might be worth more than that now? And what is the more valuable than a 2nd round pick? A 1st rounder.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

24 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

1. It's not all about goals. Would you rather have a guy with 30 goals and 10 assists or a guy with 20 goals and 30 assists? 

2. NJ gave up 2 picks, a 2nd and a 3rd, for Gusev before he even set foot on NHL ice. They were willing to give that up for a guy who could have turned out to be a bust. Now that he has proven he isn't a bust, and is on pace to hit 50 points( top 6 numbers regardless of how goals and assists are broken down), would it not be logical to think he might be worth more than that now? And what is the more valuable than a 2nd round pick? A 1st rounder.

Whatever you say

[Neomaxizoomdweebie 3,083]

2 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

1. It's not all about goals. Would you rather have a guy with 30 goals and 10 assists or a guy with 20 goals and 30 assists? 

2. NJ gave up 2 picks, a 2nd and a 3rd, for Gusev before he even set foot on NHL ice. They were willing to give that up for a guy who could have turned out to be a bust. Now that he has proven he isn't a bust, and is on pace to hit 50 points( top 6 numbers regardless of how goals and assists are broken down), would it not be logical to think he might be worth more than that now? And what is the more valuable than a 2nd round pick? A 1st rounder.

 

2 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Whatever you say

 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

50 minutes ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

 

 

Follow your heart 

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

Ive never seen a bunch of hockey fans argue over 3rd line players before.  Neither of these guys gets you a first rounder.  You are high if you think they do.  I thought I was sick of Yzerman vs Fedorov, but it only took me about 10 posts to get sick of Gusev hypothetical 1st rounder trade bait vs AA hypothetical 1st rounder trade bait.  Its like a dumbf$ck contest.  Do you really want to lose?  Youre still in it!

 

 

[marcaractac 3,963]

11 hours ago, Neomaxizoomdweebie said:

AA last year was a 50 point winger. And was worth a 1st in your opinion.

Gusev is a 50 point winger this season, but isn't worth a 1st round pick in your opinion. Plus Gusev isnt a purely one dimensional player like AA, and he's right handed. Which could actually make him even more valuable to some teams.

Do you not see why some of us might find this nonsensical?

AA=50 points=1st round pick

Gusev=50 points=not worth a 1st round pick

By your logic.

But GOALZ

11 hours ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Here we go Again 

Dude Athanasiou also got 30 goals last season , gusev is at 9 and likely finishes around 15 how is that not a big difference to you? Also the season isnt over yet so he just as easily can  go 4-5 games without a pt and finish off around the 45 pt mark which is what i see happening ... time will tell

I see this gusev being more than one dimensional bs popping around but i recall him being on the 4th line for quite a while for not pulling his weight 

If AA bounces back next season and fetches 30 goals again in his career and hits  55+ That shows teams its not a fluke and we can fetch that first. Gusev has played a grand total of 48 nhl games in his career , nobody in their right minds would give up a first 

Check out nyquists stats when we dealt him , he was on pace for a better season than gusev and didnt fetch a first and id say he was a better two way guy . Thats your ballpark of what to expect when gusev gets dealt ,unless he walks

Anyways 

Nyquist >> last year's AA. Last year's AA not worth a first rounder confirmed. 

[krsmith17 7,191]

7 hours ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Ive never seen a bunch of hockey fans argue over 3rd line players before.  Neither of these guys gets you a first rounder.  You are high if you think they do.  I thought I was sick of Yzerman vs Fedorov, but it only took me about 10 posts to get sick of Gusev hypothetical 1st rounder trade bait vs AA hypothetical 1st rounder trade bait.  Its like a dumbf$ck contest.  Do you really want to lose?  Youre still in it!

The only "dumbf$ck"s are those that think Gusev *can't* fetch a 1st round pick at the deadline...

Have you never seen the insanely high prices at the trade deadline?

Some of the forwards that have been traded for a 1st round pick in the past 5 years...

Antoine Vermette (0.55 PTS/G / 32 years old)
David Perron (0.5 PTS/G / 26 years old)
Andrew Ladd (0.58 PTS/G / 30 years old)
Martin Hanzal (0.51 PTS/G / 30 years old)
Ryan Reaves (0.14 PTS/G / 31 years old)
Ryan Hartman (0.44 PTS/G / 23 years old)
Paul Stastny (0.63 PTS/G / 32 years old)
Evander Kane (0.66 PTS/G / 26 years old)
Tomas Tatar (0.45 PTS/G / 27 years old)

A lot of those players were traded for more than just a 1st round pick. There were also a lot of other 1st round picks swapped for similar caliber defensemen and goalies in that time.

Nikita Gusev (0.65 PTS/G / 27 years old) may not be *worth* a 1st round pick, but if New Jersey shop him, there will likely be a GM out there willing to overpay with a 1st round pick...

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

1 hour ago, marcaractac said:

 

Nyquist >> last year's AA. Last year's AA not worth a first rounder confirmed. 

Gusev>>last years Nyquist . Last years Nyquisf not worth a first rounder confirmed .

Edited February 4, 2020 by nyqvististhefuture