Red Wings Brass Believes This Will Be An Extended Rebuild

[marcaractac 3,963]

Just now, The 91 of Ryans said:

I think you meant LHD? 

Eklund is clobbering the SEL (age relative of course). He's a winger but you still take him despite the current depth at that position

Guenther should be taken if he's there too. 

Basically Yzerman shouldn't be winger averse. 

 

Yes, LHD is what I meant haha.

Of course, if there is a winger that is clearly better than any remaining center or dman, do it. The hope is that a quality dman or center is still on the board when the time comes. 

If I'm Yzerman I'm trying to trade up that Washington pick for Cossa on draft day. 

[Gniwder 168]

I like the BPA for our wings pick and Cossa for the Washington pick.

>Cossa is bigger than Wallstedt
>Cossa is faster than Wallstedt
>Cossa takes less risks than Wallstedt

Plays like Luongo, covers his net and covers it well. Doesn't risk position to challenge shooters and rarely ever gets caught with his pants down. Clean explosive side to side movement and fast hands. Wouldn't be surprised to see Cossa pass Wallstedt in the rankings and get drafted higher than Jesper TBH.

[Akakabuto 1,842]

4 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

I like the BPA for our wings pick and Cossa for the Washington pick.

>Cossa is bigger than Wallstedt
>Cossa is faster than Wallstedt
>Cossa takes less risks than Wallstedt

Plays like Luongo, covers his net and covers it well. Doesn't risk position to challenge shooters and rarely ever gets caught with his pants down. Clean explosive side to side movement and fast hands. Wouldn't be surprised to see Cossa pass Wallstedt in the rankings and get drafted higher than Jesper TBH.

 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

48 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

Meh I vouched for Askarov in the first round last year, but after watching Wallstedt play I'm starting to think he would be a big mistake in the first round. Totally overhyped. He's big and the technique/positioning is there, but he has nowhere near the speed of Askarov. In fact I would even call his side-to-side movement slow for a goalie. On top of that he likes to play aggressive and challenge shooters outside the paint. Guys like Hasek and Askarov can get away with stuff like that, but big slow goalies will get burned.

Wallstedt - big mistake
It's a D heavy draft - take the Dman

I was high on raymond and he was my first pick but i was hoping we would somehow get another pick for askarov but that was a pipe dream

i think wallstedt is the real deal and theres a good chance if we finish 5-8 yzerman would take him, by the time he would be ready is when we should start making some noise and having had vasilevsky  in tb stevie knows how important the position is and we’ll likely need a star goalie if we’re gonna want to  compete with most of the upper teams in the east

We’ll see what happens at the draft

[kipwinger 8,755]

48 minutes ago, The 91 of Ryans said:

I think you meant LHD? 

Eklund is clobbering the SEL (age relative of course). He's a winger but you still take him despite the current depth at that position

Guenther should be taken if he's there too. 

Basically Yzerman shouldn't be winger averse. 

 

Eklund is a natural center, he's just playing on the wing in the SHL because he's an underager in that league and they're easing him in.

[Gniwder 168]

13 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

I was high on raymond and he was my first pick but i was hoping we would somehow get another pick for askarov but that was a pipe dream

i think wallstedt is the real deal and theres a good chance if we finish 5-8 yzerman would take him, by the time he would be ready is when we should start making some noise and having had vasilevsky  in tb stevie knows how important the position is and we’ll likely need a star goalie if we’re gonna want to  compete with most of the upper teams in the east

We’ll see what happens at the draft

Askarov was worth it. He's a bonafide talent. You were right last year. Wallstedt isn't worth it this year. Yzerman is smart enough not to pull that trigger.

[marcaractac 3,963]

20 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

Askarov was worth it. He's a bonafide talent. You were right last year. Wallstedt isn't worth it this year. Yzerman is smart enough not to pull that trigger.

In Cossa we trust

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

45 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

Askarov was worth it. He's a bonafide talent. You were right last year. Wallstedt isn't worth it this year. Yzerman is smart enough not to pull that trigger.

Well agree to disagree , there’s a reason he’s being praised and i think hes an elite #1 and yzerman will definetly be smart enough to pull the trigger if were in the 5-8 range 

We’ll see in 3 months

[marcaractac 3,963]

Cossa jumped form 30-something to 14th in the rankings. Absolutely dominant. 6'6" of glorious puck stoppage. My guess is he'll be Team Canada's guy in the next WJC.

[Gniwder 168]

35 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Well agree to disagree , there’s a reason he’s being praised and i think hes an elite #1 and yzerman will definetly be smart enough to pull the trigger if were in the 5-8 range 

We’ll see in 3 months

You're wrong.

There's a reason Cossa is rising and Wallstedt is sinking. Cossa most likely gets drafted higher than Walstedt will.

[marcaractac 3,963]

4 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

You're wrong.

There's a reason Cossa is rising and Wallstedt is sinking. Cossa most likely gets drafted higher than Walstedt will.

Cossa gonna bring Canadian-born goaltending back to prominence 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

36 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

You're wrong.

There's a reason Cossa is rising and Wallstedt is sinking. Cossa most likely gets drafted higher than Walstedt will.

Ya im wrong but more importantly so are countless ppl who do this for a living but you on a message board is correct

wallstedt has always been good wherever hes been and hes already in a mens league , maybe hes sinking a few spots cause theres too many ppl who have the built in excuse of you cant draft a goalie that high 

If the wings want a goalie in the first its either wallstedt or none , cossa wont be there at 28-32 ... like i said we’ll see what happens on draft day , all this talk is just speculation and means s***

[Gniwder 168]

43 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Ya im wrong but more importantly so are countless ppl who do this for a living but you on a message board is correct

wallstedt has always been good wherever hes been and hes already in a mens league , maybe hes sinking a few spots cause theres too many ppl who have the built in excuse of you cant draft a goalie that high 

If the wings want a goalie in the first its either wallstedt or none , cossa wont be there at 28-32 ... like i said we’ll see what happens on draft day , all this talk is just speculation and means s***

McKenzie has already pushed Wallstedt down to #10. I've seen him recently listed as low as #17. But you, the guy on the message board who can't say anything beyond "he's always good and he plays with men", is correct that he will go at #5 lmao. Pathetic. Wallstedt is slow in the crease and teams know this. He's been insulated by Erik Gustafsson and Nils Lundkvist on D and is likely gonna get picked outside the top20 when all is said and done.

I won't see on draft day, I'll know on draft day.

[marcaractac 3,963]

3 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

McKenzie has already pushed Wallstedt down to #10. I've seen him recently listed as low as #17. But you, the guy on the message board who can't say anything beyond "he's always good and he plays with men", is correct that he will go at #5 lmao. Pathetic. Wallstedt is slow in the crease and teams know this. He's been insulated by Erik Gustafsson and Nils Lundkvist on D and is likely gonna get picked outside the top20 when all is said and done.

I won't see on draft day, I'll know on draft day.

Wallstedt has played a whole 23 games in the SHL. Hardly an advantage over Cossa at all. He also has garbage playoff numbers, including in the under 20 league. 

[marcaractac 3,963]

3 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Eklund is a natural center, he's just playing on the wing in the SHL because he's an underager in that league and they're easing him in.

He'd look fantastic between vrana and zadina in a couple years

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

28 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

McKenzie has already pushed Wallstedt down to #10. I've seen him recently listed as low as #17. But you, the guy on the message board who can't say anything beyond "he's always good and he plays with men", is correct that he will go at #5 lmao. Pathetic. Wallstedt is slow in the crease and teams know this. He's been insulated by Erik Gustafsson and Nils Lundkvist on D and is likely gonna get picked outside the top20 when all is said and done.

I won't see on draft day, I'll know on draft day.

But you the guy on the message board who follows a list where hes 17 done by an 18 yr old internet scout over countless lists done by people who do this for a living where they have the other guy ahead Is correct lmao . Sure buddy ... outside top 20 lmao pathetic man

we’ll see whos right

[mackel 763]

14 hours ago, kliq said:

Ya, winning the lottery and Zadina turning out well are the exact same odds. I'm not sure sure why I'm surprised to hear more hyperbole from you, honestly I dont care, root for him to suck.

I don't have to root for him to suck, he already does.  Oh and he's lazy too.

[kliq 3,763]

2 minutes ago, mackel said:

I don't have to root for him to suck, he already does.  Oh and he's lazy too.

Ok I get it now, you're trolling. Cool.

[mackel 763]

1 minute ago, kliq said:

Ok I get it now, you're trolling. Cool.

Nope, not trolling... educating. 

[Gniwder 168]

32 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

But you the guy on the message board who follows a list where hes 17 done by an 18 yr old internet scout over countless lists done by people who do this for a living where they have the other guy ahead Is correct lmao . Sure buddy ... outside top 20 lmao pathetic man

we’ll see whos right

TSN:

Wallstedt #10
Cossa #14

"While Wallstedt is TSN’s No. 1 ranked goalie, 6-foot-6 Edmonton Oil King goaltender Sebastian Cossa is very much in that conversation mix. Cossa is No. 14 on our list, though two of the scouts surveyed by TSN ranked Cossa ahead of Wallstedt."

Cossa has climbed up from the 2nd round and is now dethroning Wallstedt in the 1st. Wallstedt has fallen from the top5 and continues to sink. He's slow. He sucks. You're behind the curve. Yzerman will never waste a draft pick on Wallstedt.

When I'm proven right (I am) and you admit defeat (you will) I'll get you one of those hookers you always talk about.

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

5 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

TSN:

Wallstedt #10
Cossa #14

"While Wallstedt is TSN’s No. 1 ranked goalie, 6-foot-6 Edmonton Oil King goaltender Sebastian Cossa is very much in that conversation mix. Cossa is No. 14 on our list, though two of the scouts surveyed by TSN ranked Cossa ahead of Wallstedt."

Cossa has climbed up from the 2nd round and is now dethroning Wallstedt in the 1st. Wallstedt has fallen from the top5 and continues to sink. He's slow. He sucks. You're behind the curve. Yzerman will never waste a draft pick on Wallstedt.

When I'm proven right (I am) and you admit defeat (you will) I'll get you one of those hookers you always talk about.

2 out of 10 scouts , thats still 80% saying wallstedt’s ahead but ya ignore that ... heck wtf you doing here  wasting your time ? Why not join an nhl club with all your knowledge or just make your way to neutral zone scouting staff

wallstedt has fallen out of the top 5 cause thats what happens to goalies incase you havent noticed what happened to askarov and knight

you can treat yourself and your pal to one im sure it’ll be a trip for the memory books

[Gniwder 168]

2 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

2 out of 10 scouts , thats still 80% saying wallstedt’s ahead but ya ignore that ... heck wtf you doing here  wasting your time ? Why not join an nhl club with all your knowledge or just make your way to neutral zone scouting staff

wallstedt has fallen out of the top 5 cause thats what happens to goalies incase you havent noticed what happened to askarov and knight

A few months ago it was 0%... now it's 20% and growing rapidly. I will humbly accept your apology about a month from now.

4 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

you can treat yourself and your pal to one im sure it’ll be a trip for the memory books

Yikes dude, I still don't understand why you hate women so much

[kliq 3,763]

55 minutes ago, mackel said:

Nope, not trolling... educating. 

[nyqvististhefuture 1,002]

26 minutes ago, Gniwder said:

A few months ago it was 0%... now it's 20% and growing rapidly. I will humbly accept your apology about a month from now.

Yikes dude, I still don't understand why you hate women so much

Drafts in 3 months not one , just another thing you’ll end up being wrong about

You got a like from your buddy you should go ahead and have the trip of a lifetime  and share the love . Have fun

[Gniwder 168]

4 minutes ago, nyqvististhefuture said:

Drafts in 3 months not one , just another thing you’ll end up being wrong about

You got a like from your buddy you should go ahead and have the trip of a lifetime  and share the love . Have fun

It won't take 3 months for Wallstedts stock to drop that far. His playoff numbers for Lulea were abysmal and now they're eliminated lol. Guys a hack.

It's cool if you don't like the ladies broman, but I cannot travel to Canada right now cause of the scamdemic