2/24 GDT - Blues @ Wings (12:00 PM EST)

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

1 hour ago, Dabura said:

WHERE YOU AT, NERDS?

WHERE YOU AT?

HERE.  REPORTING

[kipwinger 8,772]

I gotta tell you guys, I'm absolutely SHOCKED to learn that Michael Rasmussen can score when he's not buried in the defensive zone or being asked to shut down Auston Matthews or Nathan MacKinnon. I mean, just the other day I was listening to the dorks on the Winged Wheel Podcast talk about how he's "at best" a bottom six, defensive specialist and now he's putting up multi-point games in Red Wings blowouts. I genuinely can't imagine what changed.

I bet he found a magic lamp on the banks of the Detroit River.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

6 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

I gotta tell you guys, I'm absolutely SHOCKED to learn that Michael Rasmussen can score when he's not buried in the defensive zone or being asked to shut down Auston Matthews or Nathan MacKinnon. I mean, just the other day I was listening to the dorks on the Winged Wheel Podcast talk about how he's "at best" a bottom six, defensive specialist and now he's putting up multi-point games in Red Wings blowouts. I genuinely can't imagine what changed.

I bet he found a magic lamp on the banks of the Detroit River.

He's inconsistent.  There are games where he looks like Boyd Devereaux.

[kipwinger 8,772]

1 minute ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

He's inconsistent.  There are games where he looks like Boyd Devereaux.

You and I have a different definition of "inconsistent" then. Rasmussen scored at a 40 point pace when buried in the defensive zone and asked to check guys like Kucherov every night. Debrincat is inconsistent. Gostisbehere is inconsistent. Rasmussen isn't inconsistent, he's literally got the hardest defensive deployment of any forward on the team. The fact that he scores at a .5 ppg pace despite that usage means he's pretty consistently tilting the ice in Detroit's favor offensively.

Also, stop trolling. It's gross. Boyd Devereaux was never the best defensive forward on the Red Wings team, nor was he deployed the way Ras is. I don't recall seeing Devereaux on the ice against Forsberg too often.

 

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

23 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

You and I have a different definition of "inconsistent" then. Rasmussen scored at a 40 point pace when buried in the defensive zone and asked to check guys like Kucherov every night. Debrincat is inconsistent. Gostisbehere is inconsistent. Rasmussen isn't inconsistent, he's literally got the hardest defensive deployment of any forward on the team. The fact that he scores at a .5 ppg pace despite that usage means he's pretty consistently tilting the ice in Detroit's favor offensively.

Also, stop trolling. It's gross. Boyd Devereaux was never the best defensive forward on the Red Wings team, nor was he deployed the way Ras is. I don't recall seeing Devereaux on the ice against Forsberg too often.

 

Kip, I respect you, but you're not winning points insulting me.  He's a career minus player that scores a point every THREE games and has the lowest possession metrics of his career this year.  I'm willing to give you that he's great when he plays well.  I'm not willing to give you that he plays well on a per game basis that Seider and Larkin play well. He's 24 and getting better every year, so I completely understand your point and enthusiasm.  I just disagree with you that he's reached prime Kris Draper level shut down forward level.  He hasn't.  He looked COMPLETELY LOST against Edmonton and invisible against Vancouver.  Again, not saying that defines him.  Just saying that he needs to look strong 9 out of 10 games and ok the one he is off before we should sing his praises.  You know how I act on here.  VERY SPUR OF THE MOMENT.  I call out guys (Even Seider) when they are not performing to their abilities.  And Ras doesn't do it enough.

[town123 236]

As sweet as the wins vs Seattle and Colorado were.... it's pretty nice to relax and actually pound someone.

 

That was a complete game domination.  

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

26 minutes ago, town123 said:

As sweet as the wins vs Seattle and Colorado were.... it's pretty nice to relax and actually pound someone.

 

That was a complete game domination.  

Word

[kipwinger 8,772]

49 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Kip, I respect you, but you're not winning points insulting me.  He's a career minus player that scores a point every THREE games and has the lowest possession metrics of his career this year.  I'm willing to give you that he's great when he plays well.  I'm not willing to give you that he plays well on a per game basis that Seider and Larkin play well. He's 24 and getting better every year, so I completely understand your point and enthusiasm.  I just disagree with you that he's reached prime Kris Draper level shut down forward level.  He hasn't.  He looked COMPLETELY LOST against Edmonton and invisible against Vancouver.  Again, not saying that defines him.  Just saying that he needs to look strong 9 out of 10 games and ok the one he is off before we should sing his praises.  You know how I act on here.  VERY SPUR OF THE MOMENT.  I call out guys (Even Seider) when they are not performing to their abilities.  And Ras doesn't do it enough.

You're moving the goalposts. I said he provided offense when he was used in an offensive role, something he's only been asked to do for...*checks notes*...one game. You said he was inconsistent in response, and compared him to Boyd Devereaux. Now you're saying he's inconsistent because he's not as good as Draper or Larkin or Seider? Or that he didn't look good in two our two worst games in the last two months?

Also, by your own standard (that he look good in 9 of 10 games) then he ABSOLUTELY is that good. Remember all those games in January when he was with Copp and Fischer played together and barely got scored on? He had 6 points in 13 games, and his linemates were also producing, and the team was 9-2-2? That was him literally doing EXACTLY what you're saying he'd need to do for you to "sing his praises". Yet I don't recall you doing any singing. So you're either trolling, disingenuous, or blind.

Edited February 24, 2024 by kipwinger

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

5 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

You're moving the goalposts. I said he provided offense when he was used in an offensive role, something he's only been asked to do for...*checks notes*...one game. You said he was inconsistent in response, and compared him to Boyd Devereaux. Now you're saying he's inconsistent because he's not as good as Draper or Larkin or Seider? Or that he didn't look good in two our two worst games in the last two months?

Also, by your own standard (that he look good in 9 of 10 games) then he ABSOLUTELY is that good. Remember all those games in January when he was with Copp and Fischer and they didn't barely got scored on, he had 6 points in 13 games, and his linemates were also producing? That was him literally doing EXACTLY what you're saying he'd need to do for you to "sing his praises". Yet I don't recall you doing any singing. So you're either trolling, disingenuous, or blind.

Or not a fanboy.

[kipwinger 8,772]

5 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

Or not a fanboy.

How would that make you fanboy? You said YOU'D "sing his praises" if he looked good in 9 of 10. He did EXACTLY that in January. Wouldn't that just make you sincere?

Edit: I haven't even mentioned his work on the PK. You know, the same PK that's only given up four goals in 30ish attempts. The same powerplay that held opponents 0-20 earlier this season. The same PK that's winning us key games like the one against Colorado.

 

Edited February 24, 2024 by kipwinger

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

20 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

How would that make you fanboy? You said YOU'D "sing his praises" if he looked good in 9 of 10. He did EXACTLY that in January. Wouldn't that just make you sincere?

Edit: I haven't even mentioned his work on the PK. You know, the same PK that's only given up four goals in 30ish attempts. The same powerplay that held opponents 0-20 earlier this season. The same PK that's winning us key games like the one against Colorado.

 

your assigning too much of a 2 game stretch to his overall career

[kipwinger 8,772]

1 minute ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

your assigning too much of a 2 game stretch to his overall career

Am I? It sure seemed like he scored well last season when he played in the top six as well.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

8 minutes ago, kipwinger said:

Am I? It sure seemed like he scored well last season when he played in the top six as well.

40 Corsi For

[kipwinger 8,772]

8 minutes ago, Scott R Lucidi said:

40 Corsi For

I don't care about Corsi. Our team has the fourth worse possession metrics in the league. Seider's only got a 45% corsi for. Only Larkin is above 50%. Who cares? We win games, against good teams, and Ras is a really big part of that.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

1 hour ago, kipwinger said:

I don't care about Corsi. Our team has the fourth worse possession metrics in the league. Seider's only got a 45% corsi for. Only Larkin is above 50%. Who cares? We win games, against good teams, and Ras is a really big part of that.

Wait til Ras plays more consistently.  The numbers will go up.

[88Kaner 33]

This team is different I'm starting to believe we can win the cup this year.

[Scott R Lucidi 675]

On 2/24/2024 at 4:00 PM, kipwinger said:

I don't care about Corsi. Our team has the fourth worse possession metrics in the league. Seider's only got a 45% corsi for. Only Larkin is above 50%. Who cares? We win games, against good teams, and Ras is a really big part of that.

Captain Invisible played tonight.  TOTAL ZERO.  Like I said, Ras has to make an impact every game.  Not just every other game.