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TITLE CHANGE - 2025 UFA/RFA July 1! (plus summer trades)

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On 1/4/2025 at 7:16 PM, Motor City Mullets said:

My only beef is Rasmountain doesn't play to his size, but then again he isn't alone considering this been a concern with the entire team since Blashill and then Lalonde were coaching...Everyone looks better since McLellan took over...Tonight against the Jets will be a good test.

I don't agree that he doesn't "play to his size", or rather I don't see it that way.  I mean, he definitely doesn't fight, and until McClellan took over he didn't hit much on the forecheck. I suspect that was a team thing, neither did anyone else, and they're all doing it more now that Todd is in charge. But he protects the puck down low extremely well on the cycle, wins his board battles, uses his reach on defense, screens goalies reasonably well, and gets a fair number of rebound goals. I think sometimes we tend to think too much in binary (either score or fight if you're big) and I agree he's neither of those things. Reminds me a ton of Martin Hanzal; tons of defensive value (especially at even strength) and a moderate amount of "hard" offense. Love the guy.

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Thinking seriously...

What we're going to need next season is a RHD. We have enough forward prospects knocking on the door at this point. More Tarasenkos would only tie up and logjam us. At D on the other hand... Holl is our only RHD besides Seider rostered for next season. And you should want him scratched most nights anyway. Gus and Ajo can play their off-hand... but we shouldnt want that if we can prevent it. In fact Gus is better off as a regular scratch with Holl anyway. 

We also do not need a "PP specialist" at this point. Ghost and Gus were our bridge players for that role, but Eddogg has stepped up and taken over PP2 duties as hoped. 

ASP is an absolute beaut of a prospect, but we need to assume he will require time in GR for adjustment, development, and weight gain. It took a 6'6" stud in Eddogg 2 seasons in GR... it may very well take ASP longer. 

Therefore, allow me to introduce to you: Nick Perbix.

RHD, 27 years old, 6'4" and 200+ lbs, drafted by Yzerman for Tampa in 2017, and has been used only in a 3rd pair role for Tampa. 

What I like about him:

1. Versatile - big, mobile, reliable, decently talented

2. Fancy stats - check em. They paint a very positive picture. Some of that could just be Tampa though...

3. More to give - this kid got to the NHL slowww. Stayed in college and earned a degree, so this is only his 3rd NHL season. And in those 3 seasons tampa has been forced to play him in a limited capacity behind already established players. He doesnt even play the PK regulary for tampa, but on most (less deep) teams I believe he would absolutely be a PK regular. Further, he's been a Dman who can put up points at every level. His numbers for TBL look modest at first glance, but if you look at his production per minutes played, his offense is actually quite good. He stinks like a player ready for a bigger role.

4. Because of how TBL has deployed him he will be more affordable in UFA. This is a smarter option than throwing $8 mil x 7 years at Chychrun. He can be signed on a short contract until ASP overtakes him.

5. His first name is Nicklaus... so he's basically Swedish (Minny boy)

Chiarot - Seider

Eddog - Perbix

AJo - Gus/Holl

This D lineup + only using the top4 for special teams

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7 minutes ago, AtlantaHotWings said:

Whelp Chychrun is off the table ....NEXT?

Ekblad?

Here's something I cooked up on puckpedia. Retain Kane at a discount, sign Marner and Ekblad. Still allowing room for Mazur, Shine and Wallinder as a 7th D. That's 10 players on the NHL roster now all 25 and under. Only 7 players are 30+. The other 5 are between 27-29. (bought out Tarasenko and Holl)

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On 3/24/2025 at 11:25 PM, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

Thinking seriously...

What we're going to need next season is a RHD. We have enough forward prospects knocking on the door at this point. More Tarasenkos would only tie up and logjam us. At D on the other hand... Holl is our only RHD besides Seider rostered for next season. And you should want him scratched most nights anyway. Gus and Ajo can play their off-hand... but we shouldnt want that if we can prevent it. In fact Gus is better off as a regular scratch with Holl anyway. 

We also do not need a "PP specialist" at this point. Ghost and Gus were our bridge players for that role, but Eddogg has stepped up and taken over PP2 duties as hoped. 

ASP is an absolute beaut of a prospect, but we need to assume he will require time in GR for adjustment, development, and weight gain. It took a 6'6" stud in Eddogg 2 seasons in GR... it may very well take ASP longer. 

Therefore, allow me to introduce to you: Nick Perbix.

RHD, 27 years old, 6'4" and 200+ lbs, drafted by Yzerman for Tampa in 2017, and has been used only in a 3rd pair role for Tampa. 

What I like about him:

1. Versatile - big, mobile, reliable, decently talented

2. Fancy stats - check em. They paint a very positive picture. Some of that could just be Tampa though...

3. More to give - this kid got to the NHL slowww. Stayed in college and earned a degree, so this is only his 3rd NHL season. And in those 3 seasons tampa has been forced to play him in a limited capacity behind already established players. He doesnt even play the PK regulary for tampa, but on most (less deep) teams I believe he would absolutely be a PK regular. Further, he's been a Dman who can put up points at every level. His numbers for TBL look modest at first glance, but if you look at his production per minutes played, his offense is actually quite good. He stinks like a player ready for a bigger role.

4. Because of how TBL has deployed him he will be more affordable in UFA. This is a smarter option than throwing $8 mil x 7 years at Chychrun. He can be signed on a short contract until ASP overtakes him.

5. His first name is Nicklaus... so he's basically Swedish (Minny boy)

Chiarot - Seider

Eddog - Perbix

AJo - Gus/Holl

This D lineup + only using the top4 for special teams

Id second this. Seems like Walman 2.0 in terms of the on-ice product. I love depth defensemen with really good even strength scoring. Those are guys who are winning the puck. 

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There are some interesting RFAs this year, especially on D. I wish SY would go wild and sign Luke Hughes or Noah Dobson to an offer sheet.

But conservative hockey wisdom says then someone might offer sheet Ed, which might happen anyway.

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16 hours ago, kipwinger said:

Id second this. Seems like Walman 2.0 in terms of the on-ice product. I love depth defensemen with really good even strength scoring. Those are guys who are winning the puck. 

I was absolutely going to compare him to Walman in my post, but forgot. Thanks. I think there's a strong possibility he may very well be better than Walman as well. And it's doubtful TBL can retain him this summer. A 3 year deal for him would be superb this offseason.

13 hours ago, mackel said:

There are some interesting RFAs this year, especially on D. I wish SY would go wild and sign Luke Hughes or Noah Dobson to an offer sheet.

But conservative hockey wisdom says then someone might offer sheet Ed, which might happen anyway.

Yeah I dont see it. Not the MO of SYs build. 

I think it's important to note more than a few contracts end after NEXT season. Mostly at D.

Holl, Chiarot, and Gustafsson only have 1 season left on defense. This is going to radically change the defense quickly, and I'm praying our griffs will be ready to fill those roles internally after next season.

Eddog - Seider

Ajo - Perbix

Buium - ASP

Wallinder

A lot is going to depend on Ajo and ASPs development. Can AJo be better than just an upgraded Gustav Lindstrom? Can ASP survive a full NHL season and transition his game to the big time after one year in GR? If no on those we will likely be signing more stop gaps like Perbix/Chiarot etc...

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3 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

I was absolutely going to compare him to Walman in my post, but forgot. Thanks. I think there's a strong possibility he may very well be better than Walman as well. And it's doubtful TBL can retain him this summer. A 3 year deal for him would be superb this offseason.

Yeah I dont see it. Not the MO of SYs build. 

I think it's important to note more than a few contracts end after NEXT season. Mostly at D.

Holl, Chiarot, and Gustafsson only have 1 season left on defense. This is going to radically change the defense quickly, and I'm praying our griffs will be ready to fill those roles internally after next season.

Eddog - Seider

Ajo - Perbix

Buium - ASP

Wallinder

A lot is going to depend on Ajo and ASPs development. Can AJo be better than just an upgraded Gustav Lindstrom? Can ASP survive a full NHL season and transition his game to the big time after one year in GR? If no on those we will likely be signing more stop gaps like Perbix/Chiarot etc...

I know offersheets are likely too bold for Yzerman but I would definitely be in there for Hughes or Dobson.

That would free up D prospects for trade.

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Ok, so I guess this can be our Off Season Catch-All thread as well!

UFA News:

Ryan Donato is off the board, he has re-signed with Chicago 4 x $4M.

Maybe they do have a shot at Marner? Players seem to like it there. Maybe Kane goes back?

I will be pissed if Chicago gets to the playoffs the same time or before Detroit!!!

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Marchment is a 30 year old rental. Not exactly the player the Wings need but at that price Yzerman shoulda been in on it. If it was looking like he didnt want to resign coulda just traded him at the deadline for a much higher return which is likely what Seattle are thinking here.

Even with Dallas desperation to shed salary this seems like a bad trade on there end.

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21 minutes ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

YES! Now I get to watch Studleno continue his development into a juggernaught at every Kraky game. Blessed. 

Is this another example of Yzerman trading an asset for junk, then the other team flipping him for something better?

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5 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Is this another example of Yzerman trading an asset for junk, then the other team flipping him for something better?

 

3 hours ago, town123 said:

Salary dump, the Crackers get 3.25M relief I believe.

What he said ^^^^

Burakovsky hasnt been good in seattle and the team would rather have the cap space

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55 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Zegras on the move. Jesus, I guess he just what Steve wanted because Wings could've matched this or even better. What the f*** is he working on? If anything...

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I'm so excited to be dissapointed and mad at Yzerman all summer. 

You absolutely know he's gonna remain calm and stick to the "plan" AKA continuing to slowly build through the draft while insulating with vets.

He's not gonna move that first and he's not gonna move any young/prime age roster pieces.

Probably slightly overpays a vet Dman and maybe another similar player, D or F, and adds some cheap depth players.

Maybe gives away Gus and/or Tarasenko for free to a team like Pittsburgh.

And that'll be it. 

Some bad talent will go out, and some better talent will come in, but it'll mostly be a total wash. Team will look relatively the same, and the results will be similar. Maybe a wild card spot, but equally likely not. 

The only way things noticeably change and improve are if Raymond and Seider find another level and enter the conversation as top 10 in the league at their respective positions. Or a guy like Mazur or Soderblom come out of nowhere and tear the league up (unlikely IMO). But this is exactly what SY wants. He wants this team to grab its own bootstraps and pull itself up. And he's not going to do a bunch of wild moves or spend a fortune on a UFA star until that happens. Not happy about that Larkin? Then fix it. If you don't have another level you can reach, then help Ray and Mo find their's. Crying wont change anything. 

I'm happy to be mad at Yzerman personally, because I hope and pray he feels the pressure from fans and actually makes a big move. But deep down I realize we have no influence on this stoic, and he will treat us much the same as Larkin: Crying wont change anything.

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3 hours ago, Jimmybigrigs69 said:

I'm so excited to be dissapointed and mad at Yzerman all summer. 

You absolutely know he's gonna remain calm and stick to the "plan" AKA continuing to slowly build through the draft while insulating with vets.

He's not gonna move that first and he's not gonna move any young/prime age roster pieces.

Probably slightly overpays a vet Dman and maybe another similar player, D or F, and adds some cheap depth players.

Maybe gives away Gus and/or Tarasenko for free to a team like Pittsburgh.

And that'll be it. 

Some bad talent will go out, and some better talent will come in, but it'll mostly be a total wash. Team will look relatively the same, and the results will be similar. Maybe a wild card spot, but equally likely not. 

The only way things noticeably change and improve are if Raymond and Seider find another level and enter the conversation as top 10 in the league at their respective positions. Or a guy like Mazur or Soderblom come out of nowhere and tear the league up (unlikely IMO). But this is exactly what SY wants. He wants this team to grab its own bootstraps and pull itself up. And he's not going to do a bunch of wild moves or spend a fortune on a UFA star until that happens. Not happy about that Larkin? Then fix it. If you don't have another level you can reach, then help Ray and Mo find their's. Crying wont change anything. 

I'm happy to be mad at Yzerman personally, because I hope and pray he feels the pressure from fans and actually makes a big move. But deep down I realize we have no influence on this stoic, and he will treat us much the same as Larkin: Crying wont change anything.

Seriously though, fans have had enough. Changes are needed, and not just subtle changes. Playoffs are a must this year or I am all for letting him go. He's drafted well, it's time to add IMPACT player(s) that fit the timeline. a 1st or two is not going to stall the plan. There are players available that will HELP this team AND be here for the glory. Just like when he got ADB. He NEEDS to have another (or two) trades like that.

Trade for a top line winger

Trade for a #1 LHD

Sign a #2 RHD.

They're out there. Available. And affordable.

He BETTER use his buyouts too! Nobody wants to trade for Holl or Tank? Good, buy them out. We need to cap and the spots.

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49 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

 

Trade for a top line winger

Trade for a #1 LHD

Sign a #2 RHD.

They're out there. Available. And affordable.

 

Who is out there that's available and affordable?   

Seems like every team picking after #7 is more than willing to unload their pick for a top 6 forward or a top 4 d-man.    Like who wouldn't?   

 Pretty sure Buffalo and MTL would love to cash some picks and prospects in for exactly what we want.   

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5 minutes ago, town123 said:

Who is out there that's available and affordable?   

Seems like every team picking after #7 is more than willing to unload their pick for a top 6 forward or a top 4 d-man.    Like who wouldn't?   

 Pretty sure Buffalo and MTL would love to cash some picks and prospects in for exactly what we want.   

Peterka and Robo are available and affordable.

Hague, Dobson, Andersson, Ekblad, Byram, all available and affordable. (Ekblad UFA of course)

Yzerman just needs to sacrifice a 1st or two. The prospect pool is full of players, they won't miss a 1st or two.

Zegras trade just set the market though, all he got in return was a bottom 6 center, a 2nd and 4th. Dangling the 13th OA out there should get some teams talking.

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