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#2478629 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 11:23 PM

I'd trade Kindl to the Jets for Stuart and offer a package of Almqvist, Pulkkinen and Andersson for Bogosian.

I'd offer the Flyers McKee, Cleary and Ferraro for Brayden Schenn.   McKee fits their mould, they wanted Cleary in the offseason so they can have him and Ferraro could fit there as well as a 4th line C.

 

After that, I'd simply make the playoffs and possibly win the Cup, and the rest they say, is history.




#2478626 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 11:13 PM

so we all pretty much agree, we need that top pairing defenseman...but who do you target?  There aren't that many available via UFA, so it will have to be a trade...

 

Bogosian, Yandle, Erhoff, Edler, Visnovsky, Wisniewski...etc...

 

who do you target and who do you offer in return?

Bogo for Almqvist, Pulkkinen, and Andersson.




#2478623 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 11:08 PM

Westgarth is useless. I keep hearing I want a Kocur, I want a Probert or a McCarty. All those guys were extremely effective. They didn't just go out there and start stuff. Kocur was one of the best defensive forwards in the league in his hay day. Probert could have scored 40 goals, McCarty played in every situation.

The point is you want an effective 4th line. We have a good start with Glendening as the center. Now get him some decent sized wingers. Penalty kill, energy, physical play, and great D. That's what your 4th line should be all about.

Good one lol

Good one lol

Mitchell Callahan would do nicely and throw Abdelkader on the other wing and you have an energy line that hits like the grind line of old.




#2478569 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 09:45 PM

Wow....I'm actually out of vomit. I didn't know that was possible. Way to go boys!

Well at least you're comical in the loss.  Good to keep your sense of humour.  


wow this game is laughable

 

if we had our 'big 3' available, it'd probably be a different story, but as others have pointed out, the defense is simply not good enough

 

and, like many others have pointed out, Quincey is the weakest link on this defense; despite his sub-par play he still gets top-4 minutes and seems to drag down whoever he's paired with

 

if we could #1-get healthy, #2- jettison Quincey and #3- somehow acquire a top d-man, we'd be a formidable squad

 

the only problems are #1- we can't get healthy, #2- won't get rid of Quincey 'til the off season, and #3- it's really hard to acquire a top d-man

Even a good shutdown rental I mentioned before like Mark Stuart or Brad Ference.  They would both fit very well here.




#2478567 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 09:42 PM

If it makes anyone on here feel any better, the Jets just got 2 quick goals against the Preds to tie the game at 3 and then Weber got away with some usual gooning and the Jets are likely gonna take exception against him in the 3rd.  I'd love to see Thorburn level him.

 

Back to the Wings game.  These nights happen.  Sometimes you get the bounces, sometimes they all go against you.  You replace Andersson and Cleary with Dats and Z, and a few of those bounces may go our way.  Watch next game we win 6-0 against the Caps and everyone gets their erection/lady wood back and we all rejoice together.  Let's just stop the BS trade Dats talk.  Save s*** talk like that for Penguins and Cansucks fans.




#2478518 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 09:24 PM

if Gretzky can be traded so can Pavel

Yeah, let's follow the Oilers path.  One by one the players left and after the Messier lead Cup, they've been a joke for the past 20 years. Good call.




#2478505 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 09:17 PM

I would seriously considering seeing what Datsyuk could fetch on the trade market. It's getting to be time to move on from that era. Maybe trade to someone who's on the cusp of being a real contender like Colorado or another team not in the division. He's not a franchise player in other words he's not Yzerman or Lidstrom. I love him as much as the next guy but when's the last time he played a full season? C'mon it's time to move on

Pavel Datsyuk is one of the most special players ever to lace up a pair of skates.  He can do things that make most guys wake up from their dream covered in Tatar sauce.  To think the amount of people saying it's time to trade him when we are watching a game where we're missing Dats, Z, Mule, Weiss and Howard's also not playing and the kids have hit 3 or 4 posts is completely absurd.  You don't trade a guy like Datsyuk, ever.  He's loyal to the team and deserves to stay for his whole career just like Stevie Y and Lids, and just like Zetterberg will.




#2478489 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 09:10 PM

Why did it take Babs a 3-0 defecit to realize Andersson centering the top line was bad and Helm needed better wingers? Probably wouldn't matter much in the outcome, but Helm is the best center on the team right now and he has Cleary on his wing.

Babcock has a degree in sports  :lol: ology and he's the best coach ever.  Don't question his authoritahhhhhh!




#2478474 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 09:03 PM

No he's not.  If he was, he'd be an elite d-man.  He isn't, although he's better than Ericsson.  He just gets compared to Lidstrom, either consciously or unconsciously, because we've gotten used to our #1 guy not getting caught very often.

This exactly.  I couldn't name 10 Dmen in the league I'd take over Kronwall as our #1 guy.  And with the likes of Ouellet, Sproul and Marchenko coming up in the next few to push guys for jobs, I'm not worried about our D.




#2478320 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 07:39 PM

These referees are garbage. Gonna be that kind of night.

If it doesn't get any better and Gamecenter doesn't work in the 2nd period on my Xbox, I'm gonna leave this on the laptop muted and play NHL 14.  That's how lame this s*** is.




#2478120 1/28 GDT: Red Wings 0 @ Flyers 5

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 28 January 2014 - 12:58 PM

In all reality our lines are

Tatar sheahan jurco
Nyquist andy abby
Cleary helm alfie
Eaves glend miller

Not bad, but I'd make a couple changes:

 

Tatar-Tinky-Jurco (DON'T TOUCH EVER!)

Nyquist-Helm-Alfie (speed-speed-smart)

Eaves-Glendening-Abs (sandpaper line)

Cleary-Andy-Miller (keep the ineffictiveness to 1 line)




#2477963 Lines Thread

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 27 January 2014 - 10:13 PM

 

Agreed. TBH, I just chose Tootoo because his name is the exact number of characters I needed to make all of the lines geometrically even. :lol:

 

Here's the real deal:

 

Henrik Zetterberg  Pavel Datsyuk  Tomas Jurco

Johan Franzen  Stephen Weiss  Gustav Nyquist

Tomas Tatar  Riley Sheahan  Daniel Alfredsson

Drew Miller  Darren Helm  Justin Abdelkader

 

Helm and Sheahan should be switched around, but I like the chemistry Tatar and Sheahan seem to have. And, really, Helm on the fourth line isn't such a bad thing, provided the third line is good enough to justify this. Also, it gives us a big body on each line (Jurco, Franzen, Sheahan, Abdelkader).

I really like those lines, but if it was any lines I could have with any Wings players, it would be almost the same, but:

 

Z-Dats-Nyquist

Franzen-Weiss-Alfredsson

Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco

Glendening-Helm-Abdelkader

 

I would keep that 3rd line together until they become our 1st line, and then still keep them together until they all retire!  Trade Kindl to the Jets for Stuart and bench Quincey:

 

Kronwall-Ericsson

Smith-DeKeyser

Lashoff-Stuart

 

That team could win the Cup.  I'm confident of that.




#2477766 1/26 GDT: Panthers 5 @ Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 26 January 2014 - 08:48 PM

 

It will be a cold day in Hell when Mike Babcock and Ken Holland decide to waive Dan Cleary.

I'll grab my jacket and wait.




#2477756 1/26 GDT: Panthers 5 @ Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 26 January 2014 - 08:37 PM

Cleary ~ 51 games ~ 4 goals ~ 4 assists ~ 8 points ~ minus 9 rating

Sheahan ~ 12 games ~ 3 goals ~ 5 assists ~ 8 points ~ plus 3 rating (no penalties in 12 games)

 

Babcock keeps saying the players dictate who plays, who gets the ice time.  If that is true, then I guess the players know who is going down to GR….or do they?  Would sending Cleary down not free up enough cap space to keep Sheahan up?  If so, then the decision is very simple.




#2477569 1/26 GDT: Panthers 5 @ Red Wings 4 (SO)

Posted by Z Winged Dangler on 26 January 2014 - 07:22 PM

Total domination by Florida

That blown call on what should have been our 4th goal s*** on our momentum.