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#2533580 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by DeGraa55 on 02 August 2014 - 11:19 PM

 
We have 5 players over the age of 31.....Franzen (34), Zetterberg (33), Cleary (35), Kronwall (33) and Datsyuk (36) and 3 of those 5 are elite talents. Your statement makes it sound like our team is littered with older players who arent performing. We have two in Cleary and Franzen.


Kronwall elite? No. Elite is the best of the best too many people throw elite around too much.


#2533586 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by DeGraa55 on 03 August 2014 - 12:45 AM

 
Kronwall finished 13th in Norris voting this year. That means he's ranked higher than 168 NHL D regulars among the theoretical 180. And that's on a team that was severely injured the entire season, with a weak D, and a goalie in a down year. If elite to you is top 10, cool. But that's good enough to me to not split hairs about it...
 
 


To me elite is like top 2 or 3 at that position. Like goalies. Elite we had guys like Brodeur Roy and hasek now it's henrik and quick.

So to me kronwall is very good but not elite.


#2533487 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 01 August 2014 - 09:29 PM

We should cement this relationship and name the new arena Octopus's Garden!

 

Maybe Ringo can be the corporate sponsor.




#2533456 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by arag on 01 August 2014 - 01:04 PM

Kenny on Lidstrom's retirement "Why he had to go I don't know he wouldn't say"


#2533454 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 01 August 2014 - 12:25 PM

"I'm not half the man I used to be" should be one of Kenny Holland's favorite lines.  




#2533460 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by hillbillywingsfan on 01 August 2014 - 02:06 PM

"I'm not half the man I used to be" should be one of Kenny Holland's favorite lines.  

 

 

Kenny on Lidstrom's retirement "Why he had to go I don't know he wouldn't say"

 

 

He'll still be signing Cleary 'when he's 64'.

I love the direction this thread is going. hahahaha Beatles songs relating to the wings. hahahaha




#2533459 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by sleepwalker on 01 August 2014 - 01:46 PM

lol @ the city of Pittsburgh

 

 

They are such insecure pansies that they had to have their mayor ask Paul to put a Pens sticker on there alongside the Wings sticker, so their poor widdle feelings didn't get hurt.




#2533151 Wings stuff on clearance at Dick's

Posted by sleepwalker on 28 July 2014 - 01:34 PM

Lol, no doubt.  The last couple years, this has become one of the most overly PC and heavily censored websites I have experienced in my 15+ years of internet. 

 

Especially absurd when you consider this is a hockey website.

 

Whatever...




#2533135 Wings stuff on clearance at Dick's

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 28 July 2014 - 01:04 PM

****'s is not a curse word filter on here is it?

 

Holy crap, it is.  Feels like I'm in the 6th grade.  




#2531930 Holland Wiki page edited

Posted by frankgrimes on 13 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

Sure we could miss the playoffs and some will still say the exact same thing and use the exact lame excuses we've been hearing since 2009. Yeah and because this team is so great, many reputable and serious sources are having the Wings as UFA losers. I don't need to be a GM to accept the fact that Holland has become too emotionally attached to a declining roster without a real identity.

 

Niskanen would have been instantly this teams best defenseman so yeah what a horrible contract for a 27 old kid.

 

Haha building through the draft yeah right and that's why he traded away the most promising center prospect and a second for two months of Legwand AND created two of the most hilarious  UFA signings. Being too attached happens to the best of them and Holland is no exception here, I just don't understand why the guy doesn't want to move up and let a fresh guy run the show.




#2531929 Holland Wiki page edited

Posted by Zetts on 13 July 2014 - 10:57 AM

Yea, but no one says what they'd do as GM. I bet if the average Red Wing fan became GM, he/she would make horrible trades and sign over priced UFA's. We'd be like the Leafs and our team would be build around guys like Kessel, Phaneuf, Lupul, Clarkson, van Reimsdyk and Bozak for the next 4 years plus. No thanks, I'll take Kenny, who's building the team with the draft, isn't signing any over priced UFA's, and actually knows how the cap works.

 

I understand signing Quincey and Cleary isn't "sexy", but they're only 1 and 2 year deals. That Niskanen deal is insane! Smith and Dekeyser are going to be better then him. Unless a team has drafted the player, I don't think any UFA should be signed for over 4 years. Do an online search and see how many horrible long term UFA signings there's been since 2005-06. The Wings don't have any bad ones over 3 years. The only potential bad one could be Weiss, but he's got a few years to still make the deal a good one.

Yes and Dan Cleary can play better hockey than anyone on this board too.  Like Cleary, Ken Holland is a professional (in theory), who is paid a LOT of money to do his job

 

Pretty much anyone in a professional field is better at their job than someone who isn't part of that field.  But that certainly doesn't mean that an outsider can't objectively see when someone is sucking at their job.

 

Edit: To add to that, if the new standard for managing the Wings is, "well, he's better than fans on a message board," we're in a s**t-tonne of trouble.




#2531926 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by Ekmanc on 13 July 2014 - 09:59 AM

I don't know what there is to be confused about, we have absolutely no direction...




#2531906 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by GoWings1905 on 13 July 2014 - 12:50 AM

With everyone healthy we'll easily make the playoffs....


Oh no, did I rock the doomsday boat?

No, nor was my previous post a doomsday prediction. Expecting the Wings to be entirely healthy just isn't realistic. The core players are a year older and all have recent injury histories. Last season was flukey in terms of man games lost and likely won't be repeated, but the Wings haven't maintained much consistent health as a team over the past five years.

You also said to ignore the defense. Which apparently is also Holland's motto, but a tough task considering how bad they were and how the Wings plan on using that same group again this season.


#2531883 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by GoWings1905 on 12 July 2014 - 10:22 PM

With everyone healthy were a 4 line team. Ignore the defense.

 

The former is highly unlikely and the latter is going to be tough to ignore. 




#2531921 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by LAWings on 13 July 2014 - 08:54 AM

Maybe they'll resign Bert and Sammy too as insurance policies again.  Putting the band back to together...reminds me of this: