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#2534270 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by hooon on 14 August 2014 - 04:17 PM

Pretty expected, actually. I'm more curious about the Babcock extension to be honest.


This upcoming off-season is a big one for KH, there are quite a few decent dmen on the market (assuming they get to UFA) and with mostly missing out on FAs the past couple of seasons he needs to shed the dead weight and get a solid player or two. 


I'm not the hugest fan of Hollands last couple of seasons, but I don't think it is as bad as some folks are suggesting. 


People are acting like he signed Cleary and Quincey INSTEAD of going after a better free agent, but the fact is, he missed out on the free agents and then signed Cleary and Quincey well after all the good FAs signed elsewhere. Sure, I'd rather have some youngsters in there instead, but I see fans kind of twisting it around a bit. 

#2534150 What Might Have Been: Gretzky to Detroit?

Posted by hooon on 13 August 2014 - 11:40 AM


Don't get me wrong, I love Yzerman as much as the next guy.  But I don't even think twice about that trade.  You take the same teams as we had in 97, 98, and 2002 and swap Yzerman for Gretzky and we're WAY better. 



I'll take a somewhat injured Yzerman over a retired Gretzky easily for 2002.


Also, in 97-98 Yzerman was scoring almost as much as Gretzky but also provided world class defense. I don't see at all how an old Gretzky in his final 2 seasons as a player makes us "WAY" better than Yzerman in his 2-way prime.


In fact, it is not even possible to do any better than back to back cups in a two year stretch.

#2533463 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by hooon on 01 August 2014 - 03:09 PM

Take these broken Wings... and get a new training staff.

#2532459 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by hooon on 18 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

I'd be very surprised if we sign either of these guys for more than $2M per year, look at Smith and Nyquists' contracts over the last two years as a guide.


This. Neither has even played a full NHL season yet.


These are RFA contracts, not UFA guys that any team can sign. Nyquist is making 950k a year and Smith is making 1.2. While I do think both TT and DD will make a bit more, it won't be MILLIONS more as some people are suggesting. That isn't how it works with restricted free agents.


They will be short "bridge" contracts to hold them over until they get paid for real (and prove they're worth it over a larger sample size). 

#2532341 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by hooon on 17 July 2014 - 01:42 PM

I could be way off but I was expecting DD to get around 1.7-2m on a bridge deal, and Tatar to get around 1-1.5 tops. One thing Holland has always been pretty good at is getting our RFAs to sign cheap deals, but it is curious that they're "far apart". 


However, this isn't too uncommon for RFA negotiations and really there isn't much risk of losing them, maybe the Wings will have to pay a few hundred K more than they'd like but that's about it.

#2531436 NHL-Game of Thrones Edition

Posted by hooon on 11 July 2014 - 12:14 AM

Pretty darn good. 


I saw another one recently that compared all the NHL teams to the Game of Thrones house/families. I believe the Wings were House Stark - former greatness, but everyone dying off.

#2527712 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by hooon on 01 July 2014 - 11:21 AM

So, 1 year 4 million.  I don't want to hear anyone say that Kenny had his hands tied and couldn't improve the D, without hurting the team.  1 year, 4 million.  If he fails to hit his target it will show that his judgement with regards to free agency will have failed 5 years in a row.


Maybe Ehrhoff wanted to Sign in Pitt? 

#2525407 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by hooon on 23 June 2014 - 11:38 PM

One year, 3-3.5m and I think it is a perfectly fine deal. 


I sorta doubt the Wings had any plans to go after any of the top forward FAs anyways, and would have had to overpay to land any of them.


I hope they can now just focus on defense.

#2524588 Slow News Day Thread

Posted by hooon on 19 June 2014 - 01:00 PM

Don't tell LeftWinger but I hear the Wings are scouting European super forward Fabias Leinstrom from the EHSKDHL. He's 5'4", 108lbs, and had a career season with 3 points in 4 games. Its rumored Holland promised him top line minutes.

#2524251 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by hooon on 17 June 2014 - 01:26 PM

Yeah, I like it.


Cap space isn't a concern, and considering the injury bug to the goalies last year, it is good that there are three capable guys who can step in net. 


Hopefully Jonas is healthier this season and earns himself a solid starter job somewhere next year when Mrazek is ready for the full time backup role.




(Have we fired the training staff yet? The groin injuries last year were absurd.)

#2524246 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by hooon on 17 June 2014 - 01:17 PM

He's putting up the same numbers he did in 2008, why in the world would we buy him out now?


Because he doesn't score 5 goals a game like he did that one time. Therefore he is lazy and he sucks and he is overpaid.

#2524242 Dan Cleary may return...sigh

Posted by hooon on 17 June 2014 - 01:05 PM

He's going to GR to be a mentor, only way he returns to the wings is if he beats out a kid for a spot. Don't see how that's so hard to grasp.


It isn't hard to grasp, it is just hard to 100% believe - considering he beat out Nyquist last season when he had absolutely no business being on the team in the first place, it is not out of the realm of possibility to believe they might inexplicably give him a spot over some other youngster to start this season as well (Jurco, Mantha maybe). I think that's what is worrying most folks.


My other issue is, I don't even particularly want him taking up a spot on GR either. 

#2523795 Wings sign Tomas Nosek to 2 year entry level deal

Posted by hooon on 14 June 2014 - 07:05 AM

:blink: Really? Ok, Leino, Brunner, Brunnstrom...does that answer your question?


Leino - traded for some picks. Brunner - helped us immensely in the playoffs that year, and one of our better goalscorers that season. Brunnstrom - played like 6 games.


Which one of these signings hurt the team again?

#2521659 Emmerton-ov: Cory heading to KHL

Posted by hooon on 24 May 2014 - 07:31 PM

If you told me a year ago that Emmerton would be playing in Sochi in 2014, I probably wouldn't have believed you.

#2520991 Hindsight Drafting (2005-2012)

Posted by hooon on 17 May 2014 - 02:42 PM

Every other team passed on every one of those players too at some point in these drafts, it isn't unique to the Wings.


Its easy to look at drafts in hindsight and think how much better the Wings would look, but when compared to all the other teams and considering their draft position the past 20+ years, its hard to make an argument for any other team having a better track record than the Wings when it comes to drafting (and developing).

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