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Nope.

Lidstrom, yes.

Not if they trade Paul Martin and his $5 million contract which they are trying to do.  That will give them more money than the Wings.  I don't like it at all but Pittsburgh may be a more desirable place to play given the age of their key players.

Actually, no. The Wings would still have more. And also that creates another open hole in the Pens roster and they already have twice as many players to sign than the Wings.

It's really not that feasible for the Pens to do this unless they want to lose Crosby in a couple seasons.

I feel like I walked in on some awkward moment.

Backing away quietly...

Its popular to hate on Mule these days, that's why people do it.

People like to pretend the streakiness is a new thing, but Holland and co. and anyone else paying attention would know that he's always been streaky, even back in 08 when everyone loved him (didn't a huge % of his goals that year come in March?).

Fact is, he's led the team in goals for the past two years, and has a very friendly cap hit. If the Wings move him out, it had better be for someone who scores more than 30 goals a season to make up for his lost offense.


My biggest knock on Franzen is that he doesn't use his size as effectively as he could. He's one of our only big forwards, but doesn't play big.

Stewart has similar scoring ability to Ryan, is much stronger and  tougher and would be much cheaper in a trade and against the cap

Wait, do you like Stewart?

Lol how is Chicago that high? Two years of barely squeaking into the playoffs and first round exits and they still have an insanely poor defense and the worst goalie tandem in the league.

So many folks in this thread don't seem to understand the concept of trading a player's rights. This is NOT the same as trading a signed player where you command an equal return on the player being shipped out.

Don't understand how anyone could be mad at this. He wasn't going to re-sign with the wings regardless, so its a good thing we got something in return.

Either let him walk as a UFA and watch him sign with the Sharks, OR trade his rights and get value for him. Its a no brainer.

Doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially for a 38 year old injury free goalie with one year left on a contending team that he just won a cup and Conn Smythe with.  


I have no idea what factors would contribute to a decision like this in his life, but it seems plain as day that any normal person would play out this remaining year (its 5 million dollars!) and THEN retire, if indeed rest and relaxation is what he seeks.

He's a strange dude.

It'll be tough making the playoffs next season unless we have a huge offseason signing.  

We finished 5th this season and the West is getting more and more competitive each year.  Also, the Wings looked putrid when Lidstrom was injured late in the season.

It'll likely be a dogfight to get one of those last few spots.  A Parise or Suter would make that easier of course.

The Wings looked putrid because they were also missing Datsyuk, Howard, MacDonald, Helm, Eaves, and Ericsson during that same stretch that Lidstrom was out.

For 24/7 purposes alone, I hope this happens!

5. I posted this on another thread as well, but needs to be repeated here. In general, men reach their physical peaks around 27. if you go look at players in every sport, they generally have their best years from age 27-32. yes you can have some freaks come along, but those are rare. Ideally, 1/3 to 1/2 of the team would be in this age group. it is hard to get to 1/2 now with the cap, because guys this age in their primes, get paid premium dollars. But a team should have 10+ guys between 27 and 32. With the balance split equally between those younger and older than this group. In a perfect world, you have 11 guys between 27-32, 6 guys 26 and younger, and 6 guys 33 and older. if things are really going well, your top 3 forwards, top 2 dmen, and starting goalie are in the group 27-32.

Honestly, nothing you've ever posted needs to be repeated here, or anywhere. Ever.

Gives new meaning to go 5 hole, back door, and top shelf.

This league makes me want to pull my goalie.

Suter Yes! parise? No thanks. Just don't see it. he is a small sniping forward that is weak on D. Most of us agree that the RW need to be bigger, faster, younger, and grittier. parise costs a ton of money and doesn't solve but half of those problems. How does a guy that scores 35 goals, end up with a -5 rating on a defensive focused team like the devils? Hulder is a 3 million per year player that scores 25 goals. parise is a 6+ million player that scores you 35 goals. Are ten more goals worth 3 million more? No. I would take a Hudler and Jones combo over parise every day of the week, and I am not a fan of Hudler at all. Doan and jones would be even better!

First of all, Parise is NOT weak defensively, have you ever watched this guy play at all? Or are you simply pulling up his stats from this past year (when his centerman was injured for almost the entirety of the year)?

And you would rather have HUDLER over PARISE? lol

One of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here.

Could you imagine if they kept Suter and signed Parise?

Scary thing is they could afford it. LGW would implode.

If I'm Nashville, I'm making it my priority to give Weber and Suter ANYTHING they want. Nashville can afford to match what even the most desperate teams would pay for them. I'll be curious to see what they do with Radulov though. Given the limited amount of NHL time he's had, I can't really predict the range that his salary will be in.

Gimme a JUCK, gimme a POTT