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In Topic: NHL Gamecenter Live **No illegal stream discussion**

13 October 2014 - 01:57 PM

And the NHL has relatively reasonable prices. The AHL and WHL charge $300+ for a full season.


I would like to see the NHL negotiate the next TV contract to give them the ability to offer a no-blackout service to fans.


If the league is willing to take less money from NBC, Rogers, regional networks, etc. they could probably make that happen.  No network is going to pay full price though if they don't have exclusive rights.  

In Topic: NHL Gamecenter Live **No illegal stream discussion**

13 October 2014 - 01:41 PM

The NHL controls broadcast rights, not the teams.  I'm sure the Yotes and Preds owners don't want the Leafs and Wings making money they can't dip their paws into, or worse, stream the games free on the Wings site so no one makes any cash.


Nor would the Ilitch family want to assume the cost of staging broadcasts or other risks in forming their own Red Wings network I would think, even if splitting the risks with a rights partner.  There is definitely strength in numbers in this case.  Don't forget, we're just a decade removed from things being bleak enough that the league gave NBC broadcast rights for no money upfront, only getting a share of ad revenue after NBC covered its production/distribution costs.  I won't even get into details on how recent trends in cord cutting could spell trouble for future revenue for sports leagues.  Ultimately what I'm saying is that don't think the Wings, if they even had the ability to split off on their own in regards to broadcast rights, that it would be a slam dunk success.

In Topic: NHL Gamecenter Live **No illegal stream discussion**

13 October 2014 - 01:06 PM

I think it's ridiculous and still can't believe why teams aren't speaking up against that crap ? The Red Wings could make much more money by offering a package, heck think about how much the Maple leafs ... could make.


If I where an owner there is no way in hell I'm accepting that package deal GCL, I'd rather have my own service to provide ALL fans with all of the games. I would seriously consider checking the US law if that blackout thing is even legal (the CBA isn't above the US/CAN law I guess).


also I wanted to apologize to the mods for talking about ways to get around it, had no bad intents just wanted to help some fellow users :)


It's not a legal issue at all.  Direct from the FCC....


All blackouts of sports events today are the result of contractual agreements between the content owners (i.e., the sports leagues or teams) and the programming distributors (i.e., the broadcast television networks and stations, and the cable and satellite networks and systems). Each sports league has different rules about when a televised event is blacked out, and those rules are part of the contracts the league or team signs with programming distributors.




It works this way because the NHL (and by that it means the owners too) & their broadcast partners agreed to it, the government really has no involvement in it at all.  The only thing the recent FCC rule change impacts, as I stated in an earlier post, is that leagues no longer have government backing for blackouts which was really only there for public perception to begin with.  The repeal is all about positive publicity for the FCC more than anything else as they can use it as an example of being pro-consumer even though it changes nothing.  The only thing that is going to impact leagues' abilities to control their broadcast rights like this will be if Congress takes away their anti-trust protections & in essence declares the leagues/teams don't hold the exclusive rights to broadcast their product.  Personally, I don't ever see that happening.  

In Topic: Kindl on the block

09 October 2014 - 11:59 AM

Not sure if you're serious, or he was trolling, but he might be onto something...Maybe Kindl does need to play with someone better to help elevate his game, and to become more consistent?


It could work, or it could blow up in their faces, but it's at least an attempt to maximize what we have.


Hmmmmm, Kindl getting regular shifts against other teams' top lines?  I think I'll pass on that & get my scares from horror movies over Halloween instead.  Easier on the heart that way.

In Topic: Kindl on the block

09 October 2014 - 06:57 AM

One thing I find positive in regards to finding a trading partner, the articles keep saying "Red Wings are "very active" in taking calls to try......" This implies teams are interested, if nobody had any interest the articles would read "making calls". Or maybe I am looking way to deep into that lol.


Hopefully those calls aren't "Sure we're interested in taking Kindl off your hands, but you'll need to sweeten the deal a bit.  How about that Mantha kid?".