How long do you have to see a player or team doing something before you put a label on them?
Like for example I've seen people call Franzen a 30 goal a year scorer even though he has done it once.
I'm just curious what peoples timelines are for putting a label on someone.
For me it's 2-3 years.
That's why I've personally given Weiss the injury prone tag cause that's how his last few years have been. But if he stays healthy for the rest of this year and next then I'll remove that injury prone label and pencil him in as a reliable second line player(hopefully center).
I only ask because people call me negative by using this method. But I feel that usin a 2-3 year rule is the best way to form an educated guess.
The last two years the wings finished 8th. So my educated guess was they'll finish in the 6th-10th range just because that's been the trend.
If Tatar scores 30 goals this year some people will consider that enough to label him a 30 goal a year guy? I want to see it for two years back to back or two out of three.
Some people jumped on the helm bandwagon last year when he scored at a higher rate than he ever did. I was called negative for saying that won't continue because of several years of stats showing that.
Would people consider nyquist and Tatar proven NHLers yet?
Weiss was injured for about as long as Brendan Smith was making boneheaded mistakes in the defensive zone (the lockout season and last season) and I didn't see you "labeling" Smith a turnover machine or f*** up. Why? Because you don't want to think that about Smith. Just like you do want to think that about Weiss. Because you'd rather be right than be accurate. You can say "I've always said I want to be wrong about Weiss" but your entire body of work here on LGW suggests otherwise.
Which, I suspect, is why people respond to you the way that they do. I said the same thing you did about Helm's shooting percentage and wasn't called negative. Again, why? I'll tell you why. Packaging. If you don't want to be perceived as negative, then stop presenting your thoughts in a negative way. If you don't care, then why make this thread?