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#2555052 Honest question for everyone.

Posted by kipwinger on 09 December 2014 - 09:44 AM

How long do you have to see a player or team doing something before you put a label on them?

Like for example I've seen people call Franzen a 30 goal a year scorer even though he has done it once.

I'm just curious what peoples timelines are for putting a label on someone.

For me it's 2-3 years.


That's why I've personally given Weiss the injury prone tag cause that's how his last few years have been. But if he stays healthy for the rest of this year and next then I'll remove that injury prone label and pencil him in as a reliable second line player(hopefully center).

I only ask because people call me negative by using this method. But I feel that usin a 2-3 year rule is the best way to form an educated guess.

The last two years the wings finished 8th. So my educated guess was they'll finish in the 6th-10th range just because that's been the trend.

If Tatar scores 30 goals this year some people will consider that enough to label him a 30 goal a year guy? I want to see it for two years back to back or two out of three.

Some people jumped on the helm bandwagon last year when he scored at a higher rate than he ever did. I was called negative for saying that won't continue because of several years of stats showing that.


Would people consider nyquist and Tatar proven NHLers yet?

 

Weiss was injured for about as long as Brendan Smith was making boneheaded mistakes in the defensive zone (the lockout season and last season) and I didn't see you "labeling" Smith a turnover machine or f*** up.  Why?  Because you don't want to think that about Smith.  Just like you do want to think that about Weiss.  Because you'd rather be right than be accurate.  You can say "I've always said I want to be wrong about Weiss" but your entire body of work here on LGW suggests otherwise. 

 

Which, I suspect, is why people respond to you the way that they do.  I said the same thing you did about Helm's shooting percentage and wasn't called negative.  Again, why?  I'll tell you why.  Packaging.  If you don't want to be perceived as negative, then stop presenting your thoughts in a negative way.  If you don't care, then why make this thread?




#2554819 Jonathan Bernier - Nelson Mandela Comments

Posted by kipwinger on 08 December 2014 - 12:07 PM

I'm not sure why anybody thinks it is dumb for a reporter to ask a hockey player about Nelson Mandela when said hockey player is attending a ceremony specifically to honor Nelson Mandela. 

 

If Justin Verlander attended Margret Thatcher commemoration night, and when asked said "Ms. Thatcher is the best player the WNBA has ever seen, and I loved watching her play when I was a kid", he would be a fool.  As is Bernier, clearly.




#2554806 Jonathan Bernier - Nelson Mandela Comments

Posted by Son of a Wing on 08 December 2014 - 11:27 AM

If you don't know who Nelson Mandela is then your education system failed you...




#2554799 Do we need a trade to get our offence going ?

Posted by rick zombo on 08 December 2014 - 11:06 AM

No doubt the RW's O is playing well. We are healthy and playing mostly at home vs. weak teams. Keep piling up the points while we can. We all know this will turn later on. We have a 7 out of 9 road game stretch coming up soon. can we play .500 or better on the road? If we do we will have a nice points total at the end of the year-baring major injuries of course.

 

Just curious. When you say "we", are you really trying to speak for all Wings fans, or just the ones that "knew" that this team was a "borderline playoff team" before the season started?




#2553218 Alfredsson Set to Sign 1-day Contract with Senators

Posted by kipwinger on 02 December 2014 - 11:02 AM

Typical.  Another quality free agent signs to another team as a result of Ken Holland's inaction.  When will this joker's reign of terror end?!




#2550329 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by DickieDunn on 20 November 2014 - 07:20 PM

Nestrasil as a serviceable 4th liner who might be a decent 3rd liner someday. I really don't get why anyone is upset.


#2550324 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by number9 on 20 November 2014 - 06:58 PM

This is exactly the same thing as when we lost ritola to TBL. We didn't really lose anything.


#2550288 Nestrasil Waived / Claimed by Hurricanes

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 November 2014 - 04:35 PM

Most people hadn't even heard of Nestrasil a year ago and now he has all this "potential" and mentioning him in the same breath as Pulkkinen and other prospects.

 

Gimme a break...




#2549820 Forsberg in HOF, Fedorov equal?

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 18 November 2014 - 08:17 PM

I put off replying to this topic all day because I wanted to write a dissertation on why I think Feds is a lock for first ballot, and how I believe that a lot of his reported "attitude" problems hinged on cultural issues, and to reflect on the ways I feel Feds is superior to Forsberg.

But now I'm sleepy and hungry and I don't want to say anything other than

Fedorov is betterov


#2546613 What should I name my blog?

Posted by sputman on 04 November 2014 - 03:55 PM

Dollar Hot Blog




#2544115 future captains?

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 23 October 2014 - 10:51 PM

Two words:

HAMPUS

MELEN


#2538837 23 man roster set... say hi to your 2014/15 Wings

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 07 October 2014 - 03:22 PM

I think the real question here is where the hell are you guys getting these cool ass talking dogs?


#2538584 Will Cleary make the roster? (poll)

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 06 October 2014 - 03:29 PM

If he turns out to be soft in the long run, can we change professor x to hugs and kisses?


I don't know, ask Agent Orange. Or was it The Player Formerly Known as Steve? Who knows!?


#2538452 Callahan, Ferraro and Porter placed on Waivers

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 October 2014 - 01:20 PM

Callahan won't get claimed.  He had one fluke season where a bunch of pucks went in for him in the AHL.  He's not a scorer, he's not fast, he's not big, he's a projected 4th line agitator.  He also didn't look at all like an NHL player in the preseason.  Neither did Ferraro.




#2537201 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by Z and D for the C on 24 September 2014 - 04:26 PM

 
Flames have half a dozen guys for that stuff.

 

Yeah, if we could only be the flames with their 4th from last place finish in the standings last year.

 

Well that's not being fair you mentioned Vancouver too, they did a lot better than the Flames: tied for 5th worst record.

 

You're right frankgrimes. we should model ourselves after those teams.