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#2196141 Heatley for Havlat swap

Posted by ComradeWasabi on 04 July 2011 - 12:35 PM

Disappointment in the off-season wheeling and dealing in haiku form.

A rival gets better (6 syllables)
The Sharks, I mean, not Minny (7 syllables)
I miss contending. (5 syllables)

:(


You could at least make it a proper haiku if you're gonna be a debbie downer.


#2196399 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by mjlegend on 05 July 2011 - 09:55 AM

Errrr.... I assume you didn't watch many Grand Rapids games last year. Pierce outplayed our 1st round pick in goal last season (scary no matter how you look at it). Re-signing him was important for the team in GR. I'm sure Holland is more than competent enough to simultaneously negotiate with multiple players.


Is this why we've signed two mid-rate UFAs and an RFA third/fourth string goaltender in the first four days of free agency?

You're right, though, it is important to get depth within the organization. That's why it's good that there are only six or seven contracts left the Wings can actually sign players to - it means you don't have many contracts like Pearce's distracting from the pursuit of excellence for the big club. If he spent more than 10 minutes on negotiating this contract in the last four days, I'd be disappointed.

But when the big club has some glaring holes at backup GA and a spot for a top-six forward (when Hudler is pushed off a cliff), it's probably a good idea to focus 100 per cent on that first.


#2196289 Drew Doughty

Posted by Crymson on 04 July 2011 - 10:19 PM

There's a reason nobody is sending an offer sheet to Doughty: it's just terrible form and earns the ire of other GMs.


#2196276 "We feel good with the people we have," Holland said

Posted by gcom007 on 04 July 2011 - 09:22 PM

There's no reason to leave $7M for the trade deadline. $3M is plenty so we basically will have $4M to sign a backup and make another move.


No reason to spend it just to spend it either. The Wings are obviously not opposed to spending up to the cap, but they're not just going to sign guys just to sign them. It makes no sense. There's no way we sign anyone new at this point sans a backup goalie at what will likely be less than $1 million.

At this point, signing anyone else means more press box rotation for guys who shouldn't be in the press box. If anything is to happen, I'd expect that we'll see a package that sends Flip, Hudler, a defenseman (probably Ericsson) plus picks out for a 2nd/3rd line forward and a bonafide top-4 defenseman. I don't see Hudler getting dealt outside of a package with someone actually valuable like Flip. I just can't imagine Hudler/Ericsson/picks would be enticing enough for anyone to move a legit top-4 defenseman. You need someone who's proven to be a valuable asset to get anything of value and the only guy we have like that that's tradable is Flip.

I don't like speculating too much on this stuff though, and I honestly don't really think much if anything will happen. Holland's proven himself to be more cautious with trades lately and while our defense is far from perfect, it's got plenty of potential. In my mind, nothing is going to happen if it doesn't make all the sense in the world to Holland. That won't be easy.


#2196000 Heatley for Havlat swap

Posted by swedishconnection on 03 July 2011 - 10:47 PM

I wonder what 10 teams Heatley didnt want to go to? I would have thought Minn would have been on that list.


1. Ottawa
2. Ottawa
3. Atlanta
4. Atlanta
5. Florida
6. Islanders
7. Phoenix
8. Winnipeg
9. Ottawa again
10. Atlanta again


#2195979 Heatley for Havlat swap

Posted by hooon on 03 July 2011 - 10:14 PM

I must admit, pretty exciting to be a fan os the Sharks, Doug Wilson always making a big trade. Now Hollands on the other hand...


Yeah, I'll take the GM that wins cups, not the GM who has never even gotten to the finals.


#2195285 Just Read This

Posted by Agalloch93 on 02 July 2011 - 03:04 PM

Thats not true. I am no Yankees fan but I would vote for Brian Cashman, 6 American League Championships, 4 World Series victories.


REALLY? You're REALLY going to compare Holland to the team that has a payroll of 220 million dollars? Unbelievable. Anyone that has half a brain will tell you Holland is a better GM than Cashman, Cashman makes some HORRIBLE moves (AJ Burnett, Rafael Soriano, countless others).


#2194852 Wiz is a dick.

Posted by Drake_Marcus on 01 July 2011 - 10:12 PM

He's probably right if the cap continues to increase. Besides, did he not hear what Ericsson got?


Look at what everyone got this week. Ehrhoff, the playoff's worst +/- (-13), is going to make more money next season than Crosby.

Leino, Laich and Fleischmann are signed to a cap hit of 4.5 million over the next 4-6 years. :scared:

Jovocop had 14pts in 50 games last season... He's 35 years old and the Panthers signed him to a 4 year contract with a 4.125 million cap hit.

Brewer was very solid for the Lightning in the playoffs he actually had a significant drop in offensive production after they got him from St. Louis (2pts in his 22 games with TB compared to 14 in 54 games in St. Louis). But did he deserve 3.85 million a season for 4 years? While I'd rather have Brewer on the Wings for that price, Ericsson's numbers are virtually identical to Brewer's but E's 5 years younger and trending upwards. Brewer's numbers have declined since his peak season in 06-07. Like I said-- if we're talking about next season in isolation I'd take Brewer over Ericsson. But Brewer will be 36 when his deal ends and Ericsson will be 30. I doubt at that point E will be the worse choice. Ericsson will have to get better to justify his contract by growing as a player. However, we can safely assume he's got a better shot to grow at this point than Brewer does (who's 32, declining and has 12 NHL seasons under his belt).

When word filtered out that E's contract was worth 3.25 million it felt like a punch in the gut. Now that I've looked at the signings that went down so far I don't feel quite as bad. Frigging Barker was waived by Minny and bought out after posting 5pts and a -10 in 52 games last year but he got 2.25 million from Edmonton (yeah I know he scored 40pts once in Chicago but he's obviously not that player anymore... at least he wasn't that player in Minny!).

I mean s***... a 37 year old Hamrlik got 3.5 mil a year for 2 years with Washington. How much tread could he possibly have left on his tires?!? Is Hamrlik going to get 2:33 mins of pp time per game in Washington? He got 15 of his 34 points on Montreal's PP. He'll have to get comparable time on Washington's pp to replicate those numbers.

This year's cap increase really messed the market up (in my opinion).


#2194676 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by Carman on 01 July 2011 - 06:27 PM

The ONLY way we get a forward is if someone is traded...we already have 14 forwards. 6 defensmen and 1 goalie. Holland has $9.9M to spend on one more D and one G. So not unless he has a trade in the works, this will be our lineup basically and Holland will have $8M-ish of wasted Cap space. Holland shot the pooch today... And guys, ***** about Wiz's comments all you want, but blame Lidstrom and the like for taking contracts that are considered "Home Town Discounts" because now Holland has the mindset that NOONE can play for the Wings and make more than the Big three. So don't expect Suter next off season...


I'd rather have the Wings trade and take on cap space, then waste money on some of the mediocore players that have proved nothing in their careers getting long and expensive contracts.


#2193760 RFA/UFA Signings

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2011 - 12:23 PM

Pretty bad when the Panthers are going to be better than the Red Wings this season....so far its a sad day for Red Wing fans... COME ONE HOLLAND PULL SOMETHING OUT OF YOUR ASS!


#2193611 Wings not offering contract to Jagr

Posted by FireCaptain on 01 July 2011 - 11:27 AM

I'm sure someone will pipe up and say that Bettman already got that.

my guess: 9.85 mil., a vial of leprechaun tears,an angel's pubic hair, and Sidney Crosby's virginity.




#2193322 Wings re-sign Eaves to 3-year, $3.6m contract

Posted by stevkrause on 01 July 2011 - 09:54 AM

Why is he getting almost twice what he made last year? Bad signing, Kenny. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Because he was severely underpaid last year... you could not be more off base here.

Eaves is an incredibly versatile player and can fill multiple roles, great team guy, kills penalties - Eaves, Cleary, etc are the types of guys you NEED to win cups. period.


#2193313 Wings re-sign Eaves to 3-year, $3.6m contract

Posted by mjlegend on 01 July 2011 - 09:51 AM

Why is he getting almost twice what he made last year? Bad signing, Kenny. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


#2188775 No, No, NO! Jagr interested in Detroit.

Posted by CaliWingsNut on 24 June 2011 - 11:02 AM

Given the fact that he wouldn't be able to officially sign anywhere until July 1st, I don't see what the big deal is.


Except he can.... sigh.

Reason players have to wait for July 1 is their contracts. Jagr doesn't have one.


#2188660 Nashville's New Logos

Posted by Donaldjr2448 on 23 June 2011 - 10:58 PM

I AM PROUD TO BE A NASHVILLE PREDATORS FAN,the city of nashville is not a joke and neither are fans of the nashville predators.nothing can take away my love and support for the nashville predators,whether the preds win or lose,make the playoffs or don't make the playoffs,win a stanley cup or not win a cup.


don't count on the preds moving to quebec anytime soon,because hockey is growing in music city.


i must be idiot,beacuse i keep buying the teams crap and i will continue to keep buying.


Yeah!! You fit in to what I am explaining, but I digress....You'll never understand, I respect that your a Preds fan and I have no problem with that! I just have a problem when a team that refuses to try to win and actually make money and then turns around and changes logo's and such so that the fans shell out more! What is this the third time in five years they have changed logo's or jersey's, Good God Man!!

I will say this, I use to live in Nashville, and the town is a complete joke. For that matter the entire state is a complete joke!