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#2582578 Mrazek to start how many games?

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 March 2015 - 11:18 AM

With the 8 extremely good young forwards that we have in our system right now (Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Sheahan, Pulkkinen, Athanasiou, Mantha and Larkin) I don't think we have much to worry about up front. I think all of these guys are / could be legit top 6(3) NHL players, and I think it's very possible that at least 1 or 2 could become elite. Defense is definitely our area of weakness right now and in the future in my opinion. We have 4, maybe 5 young defensemen (DeKeyser, Smith, Sproul, Ouellet, Marchenko) that could become top 4 guys.


I think either way you look at it, we are set up pretty good when Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Kronwall eventually retire in the next 3-5 years (which by the way, is still a ways away yet...)



As for the great Howard vs. Mrazek debate, I still think Howard deserves a shot to prove he is the Red Wings best option in goal for the time being. After all, like many have already pointed out, he was putting up great numbers and having an All-Star year prior to his injury. In saying that, I do believe he should be on a somewhat short leash, and Mrazek stealing the job at this point should be a real option. I don't think you go with the veteran goalie into the playoffs if the rookie is playing substantially better.


I've always been a Howard supporter and still am, but I don't buy that the team just happens to show up when Mrazek (or Gustavsson) is in net, and play like s*** when Howard is in net. I think the teams play is a result of the goalies play. It's much easier to get going on the offense when your goalie is making the huge key saves in a game. If the goalie lets in a softie or two, it usually does effect the teams overall play. Howard is very capable in making big time saves from time to time but he is also known to let in a few weak goals at inopportune times. Another obvious contributing factor in the team playing better when Mrazek is in net, is his ability to play the puck. As cliché as it sounds, it really is like having a third defenseman back there.


Howard has been awful 1on1 recently and has never learned how to play the puck. Mrazek is pretty good 1on1 due to his aggressive style, and can play the puck as well as any goaltender in the league. The kid oozes confidence and if he's able to string together another few great performances down the stretch and Howard struggles, I think he should be our guy for the playoffs. However, I do still believe it is Howie's job to lose...

#2582580 Mrazek to start how many games?

Posted by krsmith17 on 17 March 2015 - 11:34 AM

Also per Mike Babcock, Petr Mrazek will start on Thursday vs. Florida.

#2582601 Mrazek to start how many games?

Posted by roboturner on 17 March 2015 - 02:33 PM

Howie definitely doesn't have it together right now. He may have pushed himself back a little bit too early. From the games I've been able to watch, there were a number of goals where it looked like he gave up on them. I'm not saying he would normally do that, but I think it's an indication that he's still hurting.

Mrazek is still young and that means the occasional rookie mistake, but his puck handling just completely changes the game in our favor. I know I've been kind of scoffed at for stating how much it would help, but I hope people have been able to see the difference and might be coming around to it. And I don't mean to be a dick, but let's not forget how Howie injured himself in the first place.

I remember when Howard first came up and started splitting starts. I kept thinking "this is the guy? This is our goalie of the future?" Five years later he's improved no doubt, but he still plays like a timid kid. I just don't get that vibe when Mrazek plays.

#2531193 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by GoWings1905 on 10 July 2014 - 04:44 PM

This same article also has Holland saying Cleary will have to beat out other players to be in the lineup. But lets ignore that because it isn;t in line with Holland bashing.

Because we should all believe that after Cleary made the team over Nyquist last season?

#2529730 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by sleepwalker on 03 July 2014 - 10:27 AM

What shocks me most is that there are actually some people defending this signing.


Whether you think Quincey totally sucks or is OK, I think anyone that actually watches hockey and still has firing brain cells can agree that there is no way in HELL that is Quincey worth $4.25 mil.


I've never been one to jump on the Holland hate bandwagon, nor do I hate him now, but I seriously have to wonder what the hell he was thinking with this signing.


To even bring him back to begin with was a dumb move, but to then sign him to another 2 years and give him a RAISE on top of that is beyond comprehension to me.

#2502459 3/27 GDT - Canadiens 5 vs. Red Wings 4

Posted by b.shanafan14 on 27 March 2014 - 09:16 PM

In the last 18 games, Howard has 10 sub-.900 save percentage performances. Of those 10, 9 resulted in a loss, including the last 3 games. His goals-against over the last 18 games is 3.333 per game.


Is his defense crap? Yes, but at what point do we stop making excuses for him and accept that if you are going to be a good goaltender, you have to make the difficult saves, especially at crucial points in the game. As I've said elsewhere, he allows his glove hand to dip, resulting in two goals tonight, his rebound control is as bad as its ever been (which is really saying something with Howard), and the way he has been the last few games reminds me of his early season stretch of awfulness. By the the second goal you could read in his body language that he was feeling sorry for himself. He looks lethargic at times and he is allowing back-breaking goals.


Is the problem honestly that this injury-depleted team can't score an average of 4+ goals per game to win? Bad as our defense has been, Howard has been just as bad, and getting worse.

#2495006 The Leaders HAVE to step up

Posted by Dabura on 13 March 2014 - 02:27 PM

Have we sucked in the shootout because of injuries? Have we sucked at home because of injuries? Have we been unable to hold a lead because of injuries? Has Quincey singlehandedly cost us 20 goals because of injuries? Was Nyquist held off the roster for the oh-so-valuable Cleary because of injuries? Have we failed to play more than a couple 60-minute games this season because of injuries? Howard hasn't been anything close to what we need him to be, but is that simply because of his injuries and injuries to the guys in front of him?


Injuries have hurt us. (Pun.) But there's more than that to our struggles.

#2493959 Howard = Average

Posted by roboturner on 09 March 2014 - 08:37 PM

i love how everyone attacks jimmy look at today it was 3-0 i didnt know goalies where suppose to score too its sad we get 7 goals with gus and none with jimmy 

We're not attacking him over today's game. That would be stupid. We're attacking his overall numbers for the whole season. They aren't good.


I understand the want to look at each goal against individually and say "That one was tipped, not his fault." or "Not getting any help from the defense, not his fault." and in some instances that true, not all of the goals he gives up are his fault.


But at some point you have to look at his overall numbers and realized he's just not getting it done.


When he signed his new contract he was paid as a Top 10 NHL Goalie.  Most of his stats currently rank him in the 30-40s, not Top 10. The guys record is 13-25 (Don't be fooled by the W-L-OL stat. A win is a win and a loss is a loss!). THIRTEEN AND TWENTY-FIVE!!! That's not the kind of record and not the kind of stats you want out of your Top 10 Starting Goalie. If it was one or the other that was bad and the other was reasonable, that might be more acceptable, but as it currently stands its just not good enough. The Team is already struggling enough as it is, we don't need a shaky goalie w/ confidence issues added to it.

#2447670 What's Killing Our Offense?

Posted by MotorCityMadness on 24 October 2013 - 06:43 PM

Several things:

1) Our passing ability has really gone down the tube since 2009
2) The inability to quickly turn a neutral zone turnover into an odd man rush the other way
3) Way to many shots from the perimeter
4) When in a good shooting position, the tendency is to make an extra pass or having to make an extra stick handle instead of releasing a good, hard and quick shot
5) Way to many players who do not put their shoulder down and go hard nose to the net and at worse can draw a penalty against a player who has been beaten
6) Way to much line juggling and several players who seemingly make it a 5 on 4 on the ice when they are out there
7) The lack of someone who is selfish and will shoot every chance they get (you could argue a pure goal scorer here)
8) The power play has become very stagnant and not enough moving parts...need to simplify it and just have someone bombing away from the middle on the back end
9) Way to many times do we give the puck away to easily in the D zone causing more energy to be spent trying to retrieve the puck
10) Lack of a killer instinct when the opponent has had most of its life taken out of them...one example was the game against Chicago last season when they had the lead and then took a boneheaded penalty with 2 mins to go and lost in a shootout 2-1

Rant over