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LetsGoWings.com Official Game Day Thread - - GAME 39 - - VS. Final Score: Flyers 3, Red Wings 2 Philadelphia wins first in Detroit since 1988 Start time: 5:00 EST Joe Louis Arena - Detroit, MI Available On: Tonight's Stream http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/user/15741-drumnj/ (Directions in profile) Official Game Preview: Best of each Conferences meet in Hockeytown ---- *Opposition GDT* From FlyersPhans.com ---- Around the NHL Vote for your favorite NHL All Stars 3,600 gallons removed from Heinz Field ice Story lines go beyond Sid versus Ovi Western Conference Standings 1. Detroit Red Wings....................38 GP, 24-9-5, 53 pts 2. Vancouver Canucks..................36 GP, 23-8-5, 51 pts 3. Dallas Stars.............................39 GP, 22-13-4, 48 pts 4. San Jose Sharks......................39 GP, 21-13-5, 47 pts 5. St. Louis Blues........................37 GP, 20-12-5, 45 pts 6. Los Angeles Kings..................38 GP, 22-15-1, 45 pts 7. Colorado Avalanche................38 GP, 20-13-5, 45 pts 8. Anaheim Ducks......................41 GP, 20-17-4, 44 pts --------------------------------------- 9. Columbus Blue Jackets...........38 GP, 20-15-3, 43 pts 10. Chicago Blackhawks................39 GP, 20-16-3, 43 pts 11. Nashville Predators..................37 GP, 18-13-6, 42 pts 12. Phoenix Coyotes......................37 GP, 17-13-7, 41 pts 13. Minnesota Wild........................37 GP, 17-15-5, 39 pts 14. Calgary Flames.......................39 GP, 18-18-3, 39 pts 15. Edmonton Oilers.....................37 GP, 12-18-7, 31 pts FLYERS 38 GP, 23-10-5, 51 pts Last Game: Lost to ANA 5-2 RED WINGS 38 GP, 24-9-5, 53 pts Last Game: Lost to NYI 4-3 (OT) Last DET-PHI Meeting: 4/4, DET 3 at PHI 4 Recap - LGW GDT Highlights Goals PHI Danny Briere: 18 DET Johan Franzen: 17 Assists PHI Mike Richards: 23 DET Henrik Zetterberg: 30 Plus/Minus PHI Andrej Meszaros: +24 DET Justin Abdelkader: +11 ---- PHI Daniel Carcillo: -7 DET Jiri Hudler: -8 PIM PHI Jody Shelley: 83 DET Tomas Holmstrom: 42 Franzen-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Hudler-Filppula-Bertuzzi Draper-Helm-Tatar Miller-Abdelkader-Mursak Lidstrom-Stuart Ericsson-Rafalski Kronwall-Salei Projected PHI Lines van Riemsdyk-Richards-Briere Hartnell-Giroux-Zherdev Nodl-Carter-Leino Carcillo-Betts-Powe Meszaros-Carl Timmonen-Coburn Bartulis-O'Donnell Brian Boucher Record: 7-4-2, 2.36 GAA, .916 SV%, 0 SO ---- versus. ---- Jimmy Howard Record: 20-6-3, 2.66 GAA, .909 SV%, 2 SO FLYERS Chris Pronger (foot) out, Matt Walker (hip) out, Ian LaPerriere (concussion) out ---- RED WINGS Patrick Eaves (upper body) won't play, Dan Cleary (broken ankle) out, Pavel Datsyuk (broken wrist) out, Mike Modano (severed tendon) out On Deck 1/4, Red Wings at Oilers ; 9:00 PM

What this game needs is a little more Ty Conklin.

That's what's all over Twitter. Even NBC was confused why there was no handshakes. I have absolutely no doubt now that it was no mistake that Crosby didn't shake Nick's hand (yeah, yeah, call me out for bringing that up again two years later, whatever). Good job marketing the game, Crybaby.

Happy New Year! January's featured players are defensemen Niklas Kronwall and Reed Larson: Widescreen: 1920x1200 | 1680x1050 | 1440x900 | 1280x800 4:3 & 5:4: 1600x1200 | 1400x1050 | 1280x960 | 1280x1024 | 1024x768 Enjoy!

ffffuuu--- Couldn't they do this a day or two earlier?

You're not. This is a good hockey game. Anyone who says otherwise is just butt hurt because the Pens are playing in it.

Penguins? Getting a goal waived off? What world am I in?

Capitals jersey = awesome Penguins jersey = toilet

You know I am getting a little tired of Babcock cutting Jimmy Howard all the slack in the world. No, the loss was not per say all Howard's fault, but the job of a goalie is to stop a puck, even during times when the team defense is not at its best. Obviously goalies are not going to be perfect when the defense is weak, but Howard is just letting in too many goals the past month and a half or so; it seems to be a trend for him to let in 4 goals these days. My problem is that Ozzy has been looking REALLY solid in net, but then gets the bench for Howard, who is playing average at best. I see that Howard is getting the nod again tomorrow against Philly which makes me mad because I think Ozzy deserves some games here. All biased aside, I know there are Ozzy fans and Howie fans, but I think Babs should be rotating them and, as the year progresses, give the better goalie more starts, and then use that to determine the goalie for the playoffs. At this rate, I feel every time the other team shoots it is going to go in on Howie (that is what I felt with Ozzy last year) so unless Howie starts outperforming Ozzy, Id say he should be the go to guy somewhere down the line

good thing we still have one Czech, or else, no funny. Still the best Red Wings commercial, ever:

oops... I agree... should have counted, but who cares at this point?

That goal should have counted.

Fleury interfered with Ovechkin! What a joke, he isn't even in the crease!!! BS CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's supposed to make it more fair. Whether it does or not is debatable. I thought they didn't have to switch because of how good the weather was?

holy moley, Rollie? Well, he will like working for Stevie. Rollie's a good guy. 3-1 Caps... I'm so happy! Crosby with 4 shots and 4 misses, and a -1.

Difference between Ovie and Crosby and the compared rivalries: Ovie and Crosby will not face each other for the Stanley Cup so long as they both play in the same conference. Therefore its pointless at this point, they will probably never battle for the biggest prize in Hockey.

In other news, Brodeur got yanked for letting in 3 goals on 7 shots (NJ v. 'Canes). Hedberg's not much better, 2 on 7 SOG, middle of the 2nd period. LOL~ 5-2, Canes Ryan Miller let in 4 goals on 11 shots for a sparkling .636 average in the first period (Bruins v. Sabres end of first, 4-3) We would be hanging our goalies for such performances. Brodeur and Miller are lazy and they suck.

I'd love to see Crosby and Ovechkin drop the gloves in this game.

And still, people try to stifle him. Don't mess with success.

Hey, that's no polar bear! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's...Marty Brodeur! Love it. And for some reason I can totally picture Helmer playing Hungry Hungry Hippos in his spare time, hehe.

Re: Selkie's post Again, I think 'fans', particularly 'expert fans', see things with waaaaaay different standards than people in the biz. Osgood got bombarded by fellow hockey personalities. 400 wins may not be very HHOF or retirement worthy to you, but I once again maintain it's a huge milestone for people actually involved in the NHL level of the sport and will most likely result in HHOF and quite possibly number retirement. There's a distinct difference between "Should Osgood be in the HHOF by your standards?" and "Is Osgood HHOF worthy?" -- the latter is what's judged by people in the business of pro hockey. My opinion? I don't know if Ozzie "should" be in the HHOF because honestly, there's absolutely no standard set for modern goaltenders. Fuhr, Smith, and Roy are the most recent goaltenders; in regards to the former two, they were the standard of a different era, and in regards to the latter, a top 3 all time player at a position does not set a standard. The same can be said for 2 other locks, Hasek and Brodeur. The next tier, Belfour, Joseph, Vernon, Osgood--these are the names that will set the bar for what's considered "HHOF-worthy" for a modern goaltender. I have no modern comparison for "should" until I see what happens with these guys, and thus, I will make no judgements on "should"... only predictions on what the HHOF will do in regards to perceived standards. However, I will say this: If 400 regular season wins, 74 playoff wins, and 15 playoff shutouts--all marks held by 10 or less other goaltenders in the history of the NHL--in addition to 3 cups (2 as a starter), respectable (even if not spectacular) sustained SV% and GAA (and upper echelon for said stats in the playoffs), and the ability to keep a job in one of the hardest positions in pro team sports for 17 seasons (13 of those as a starter that plays ~60 minutes a night for the majority of games in an 82 game season) is not enough to be a Hall of Fame standard, then the standards are too strict on netminders. I don't care how many of those numbers are a "team stat" or how good his team was--you don't get kept around as a player for 14 years (10 years as a key player) on the most successful hockey team for 2 decades unless you're pretty damned good yourself. Success keeps the company of success... and I offer the same argument for other 'debated' names such as Dryden and Fuhr.