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I think the Chicago series fooled Holland into believing the Red Wings are closer to championship contention than in actuality. So, instead of embracing the youth movement that got the Red Wings into that position during the playoffs, he continued to force veterans into the equation. I don't really have a problem with the Alfredsson move, but keeping Cleary was insanity when you have Nyquist around. Not to mention, the Samuelsson signing was a mistake all along and I don't think most of us needed hindsight to see that coming. The NHL thrives on speed now -- a huge reason why Brunner and Nyquist were so successful with Andersson on the third line in the playoffs. Now, the Wings have Abby and Cleary playing there tonight.

That's 2 I've called tonight. Ok. Z, you're the other one I chose in my prediction. You're up.

No worries. Jimmy Williams knows how to position the number 35 car to protect the end zone and keep the other team from scoring home run baskets.

yeah but we DID sign a guy who now wears Malkin's jersey # that's pretty much the same thing as signing Malkin himself, right? Right?

does anyone think that Holland realizes he's made a large error in re-signing all these has beens to ridiculous deals ala Cleary, Bert, Sammy? it saps the team of any youthful exuberance, speed, SCORING, etc. I just wonder if he thinks he's done a good job the last few years of course Alfie scores as I'm typing this lol

ALF. 55fan is a psychic voodoo chile

I'll be shocked if Kyle Quincey scores a goal this year, couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, christ.

Quincey needs to watch how the Rangers interfere. Because they way they do it is apparently legal. Dats is heating up. Weiss too.

Smith is not an NHL defenseman.

Pavel smoked a fatty before the game

That was a mess of a period. Wow. After a pretty decent 1st I didn't think this team would once again fall back into a coma and get dominated. Better 3rd please? He's probably thinking "what is it about Tatar that is dragging this team down and what veteran can I trade him for?". Thruthfully I think he expected us to be as hit with injuries as we've been the last 2-3 years, counting on that to solve any logjam problems. We'll get injuries eventually and maybe then we'll be glad we have a deep roster, but Holland HAS to realize it's a crazy situation to have a team that is struggling this bad when Nyquist is stuck in the minors for no good reason.

So if I predicted Miller, Alf, and Z to score, and if they all score, do I get curly fries for a prediction hat trick or do I just get to go to Arby's and predict that they'll have curly fries on the menu?

Imagine if we had an average goalie we wouldn't win a game

At least once a game I remember that DeKeyser was undrafted and is a rookie. Crazy. Lashoff has looked very good too.

Is there a way they can trick Mule into thinking he's in Colorado?

Well I think most of us expected the full-time presence of Tatar, Helm and Nyquist, +Alfredsson and Weiss > Filppula and young d-men growing would lead to improvements. Most of that hasn't come true completely atleast. But we'll be better. Until we have everyone healthy, Gus, Tatar and Helm in the lineup and we still look terrible I'm not panicking. This is painful to see though. Good shift by the stacked 1st line though.. man it'd be great to have that line always.

Zuccarello sounds like a name of some wizard from fantasy films.

I've gotta admit you're on a roll tonight. Really lovin' Alfie so far this season even when the rest of the line is bumbling.

From what I'm reading, sounds like we've come out and sh*t the bed after previously sh*tting the bed last game nice to see they're responding to their last poop fest by having another one especially against a banged up, road-weary team missing their all-star goalie

There's a lot of problems, but his absence sure isn't helping. Aside from being a good stay at home D man, Ericsson has a very underrated first pass. That helps the forwards spend less time in their own end.

If you play the NHL video games on "pro" difficulty, you'll know what this Wings defense looks like.

Wings are getting horribly outplayed by the Rags right now. Howard is the only reason why they are ahead.

Because they didn't ask him to learn a completely different system.

I won't be posting tonight, I'll be at the game and since I live on the other side of the border I can't post from my phone but I better get my butt pat still as I will be participating in the live action Dan Cleary drinking game

I don't understand and I simply never WILL understand why Franzen is the only guy on this team that never seems to be held accountable. Babs will demote guys like Weiss, Hudler, Flip, Brunner, Alfredsson and other talented players to the 3rd line when they are not showing up. I can think of twice that Franzenfloat has been demoted in the last 5 years. It appears that Babock thinks Mule is one shift away from that magical 2008 run. Let it go man.....He's lazy, inconsistent, erratic and uninspired. I for one am getting a bit tired of watching the guy stroll around out there like he's out for a Sunday walk and not being called on his sh@t.