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1. This team needed a rebuild since ******* 2012, when sanct Nick retired and it has only been downhill since then that's a fact
2. Since you keep bringing up these guys which one of them has true star potential? Larkin (maybe), Sproul might turn into a solid third pairing guy with the occasional second pairing time again far from star or even top pairing potential. Mantha needs to get a real chance I think we can all agree on personally I believe he could be a great sniper with great size in a top 6 role down the line. AA has tremendous speed, good hands but lacks I would be very very surprised if he ever turns into a top 6 center. I'm sorry but Larkin alone won't lead this team back into contention. Mrazek ? A guy who still hasn't figured out how to be a consistent starter let's see it first shall we?
And now compare that to the young guns on Toronto: Matthews, Nylander, Rielly, Marner (again all top 10 picks) and a few complementary players like Zaitsev, Hyman that's a pretty good start for a rebuild and why did they do it? Because Burkes rebuild on the fly failed and Shanahan knew the team needed a new vision. Will the Leafs make the playoffs? Of course not but their fans are excited about the future as they should be with a lot of highend talent.
3. Put yourself into the shoes of the PR gurus for this team what's easier to sell for the new building. 26 years of playoff hockey with a future that (maybe) has one star or a future with a guy like Patrick, Lilejegren, Foote or Vilardi.
How can I say that the rebuild on the fly has failed? Well instead of improving and giving the young guns the chance to sink or swim, Holland priortized the streak and kept signing veterans that don't help in the longrun and still the team got annually worse. If that's not an indication for a failed rebuild on the fly what else is?
4. I agree with the bolded part and it's way too early to make any predictions but the truth is this: 6 Wins against 7 losses right now that's not a good start. Again way too early but it should be a t least a bit concerning for Holland because he is the guy that build this roster. Also I've mentioned going through a win streak, then a losing streak repeat is the definition of an average team but once L > W every team should start thinking about the draft instead of the playoffs. Do I like that system? Well obviously no because it awards being bad but it IS the current system and the only way to build a contender.
5. I know you don't like real rebuilds nobody does but when there are no other options, there isn't much a team can do. This time the Wings don't have the luxury to throw the bank at a superstar (if they become available), nor are they the prime destination they once were...so hoping for a pick in the 15+ range to turn out better than expected because they always do right? is like taking part in high frequency trading  you could cash in but in most cases you are going to lose a lot of money.
6. Said it before and say it again the Predators do a tremendous job finding and developing top defensive players why just throw the bank at their scouts and bring some of them in?
 

I agree with you mostly but watching the leafs and watch the wings is a lot different. This team has no direction until we have someone on D to be excited about. I will say Holland could not have possibly predicted how every defense prospect was going to bomb. Is that bad drafting or bad luck idk but it's a little ridiculous. We have failed to draft an impact top 4 since kronwall. That's why we're a bad hockey team in 2016

Most people think this anyway. What would of been any different. None would of cared once Stamkos resign up TB without even looking our way. At least we would of had Chych, not Nielsen at 31mil over 6 years. No Hindsight about it, doesn't take a hockey insider to know Stamkos wasn't coming here, Chych was a top 5 pick from almost half of last year we had a rare chance to get a top 5 at least top 10 talnet in the draft at our weakest position and pissed it away.

True. But if eating the 7+ million for one season meant getting top ranked D prospect who they'd have for years who is compared to Scott ******* Stevens in regards to how hard he plays and how he hits, you'd think anyone with even the slightest hockey knowledge would see that's something we desperately need. I know I could deal.

I feel pretty meh about this...Not much we could do, we needed a top 6 center.

Doesn't say much about our D...

I don't post much at all, so sorry if something like this has already been posted.
I know the hype right now are players like Stamkos, Backes, Okposo, so on. But what about someone like Matt Martin. I've always really liked Martin because he hit everything that moves, everything. If I had to guess not many really care for him, or he may not fit in on our team well. So the question is. What are some of the none top FA guys you wouldn't mind going after if we've got the cap space.

I was just looking at the FA list of players that are left thats all and them 2 stuck out the most to me. But thanks for all the feed back. I would of ask about Anton Babchuk also but I don't think Ken is out to get another D after picking up Ian White.

I was just looking at the FA list of players that are left thats all and them 2 stuck out the most to me. But thanks for all the feed back. I would of ask about Anton Babchuk also but I don't think Ken is out to get another D after picking up Ian White.

I was just looking at the FA list of players that are left thats all and them 2 stuck out the most to me. But thanks for all the feed back. I would of ask about Anton Babchuk also but I don't think Ken is out to get another D after picking up Ian White.

I was just looking at the FA list of players that are left thats all and them 2 stuck out the most to me. But thanks for all the feed back. I would of ask about Anton Babchuk also but I don't think Ken is out to get another D after picking up Ian White.