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But we're winless with the kid defense. If it ain't is broke, don't fix it.
0-82, baby!

Didn't he lead the league in GWG or something?

07/08-09/10 playoffs don't count as clutch now? We literally don win a cup in 08 without mule. 
And yes obviously his 187 goals on 602 games all came when we were up by 3 goals... 
Only %23.5 of his goals were gwg. So he was obviously useless 
Compare his %23.5 get to z's %19 and you can see why z was way more clutch 
Unless were going to say gwg doesn't count or something 

I agree that Mule got (and still get's his share) of bashing.  My frustration with Mule is that he was so hot and cold, and many of his points came when we were up by 2-3 goals.  I know there are exceptions and certain instances where this wasn't true, but I never saw Mule as being clutch. A goal when we needed it.

Kronwall is old and slow I get it but if we want any of these young forwards to have a chance we need some guys who can move the puck. Kronwall can move the puck. He's always been a good passer. I'm all for having young guys in the lineup and I've given into the fact it's happening right in front of my face but these young guys can't get better on their own.  Green, Kronwall, Daley and even ( I cringe) Ericcson will help these guys along.  Abby is in no mans land right now. He could be a very effective 3/4th line checker but he's paid like a guy who should score 20 goals. Won't happen. Jimmy isn't getting traded. He's in the last year of his deal and he will probably be gone at the end of the year unless a team has emergency goalie issues. Nyquist better start doing something quick or he's going to end up on the bench, he's been totally invisible and isn't really tradeable unless we Vegas wants to make a Tatar deal again   There are a million Glendennings out there. Could care less either way about that guy. 

Love or hate Howard, it would be a smart move to trade him this season and acquire assets. Assuming he puts together another decent season, and a team is in need of a goalie at or before the deadline...
Bernier is a capable starter for a non-playoff team. Much like Howard, he's not going to win or lose many games on his own, but he'll keep his team in most games, which is all you want as a bottom third of the league team. I think Sateri could be a viable backup options as well.
If we can trade Jimmy for a 2nd, or even 3rd round pick by mid-season, I think you'd be foolish not to...

Thanks for everything Z!!  You gave us everything you had, all the time.  So grateful.  So many great memories you have given us all.  Your PK shift in the 3rd period in game 4 of the 2008 SCF, against the Pens, 5 on 3, will always be the "bar" for what TOTAL SELFLESS EFFORT represents.  Thanks again

Thanks for everything Z!!  You gave us everything you had, all the time.  So grateful.  So many great memories you have given us all.  Your PK shift in the 3rd period in game 4 of the 2008 SCF, against the Pens, 5 on 3, will always be the "bar" for what TOTAL SELFLESS EFFORT represents.  Thanks again

Thanks for everything Z!!  You gave us everything you had, all the time.  So grateful.  So many great memories you have given us all.  Your PK shift in the 3rd period in game 4 of the 2008 SCF, against the Pens, 5 on 3, will always be the "bar" for what TOTAL SELFLESS EFFORT represents.  Thanks again

IMO...I'm thinking he will be offered the Seattle job (IF they get a team), but he'll decline and head "upstairs" for the Wings in an advisory role (SVP and Alt Governor) .  I'm thinking Jimmy D at age 75 might step down.
Kenny will be 63 this November, and that would make him 64 by the time his first season with Seattle is getting underway (if the team ramps up by 2019-2020 season).  He's got 4 kids who most are still in the area.  Really nice home in the area.  He has summer vacation home in Ontario which is a fairly short drive (considering) from the Detroit area.  I just don't see it.   At his age, what he's already accomplished, doesn't need the money, moving literally all the way across the country to Seattle (or at least spend 2/3 of his year away from his home and family).  I don't think he will. 

IMO...I'm thinking he will be offered the Seattle job (IF they get a team), but he'll decline and head "upstairs" for the Wings in an advisory role (SVP and Alt Governor) .  I'm thinking Jimmy D at age 75 might step down.
Kenny will be 63 this November, and that would make him 64 by the time his first season with Seattle is getting underway (if the team ramps up by 2019-2020 season).  He's got 4 kids who most are still in the area.  Really nice home in the area.  He has summer vacation home in Ontario which is a fairly short drive (considering) from the Detroit area.  I just don't see it.   At his age, what he's already accomplished, doesn't need the money, moving literally all the way across the country to Seattle (or at least spend 2/3 of his year away from his home and family).  I don't think he will. 

IMO...I'm thinking he will be offered the Seattle job (IF they get a team), but he'll decline and head "upstairs" for the Wings in an advisory role (SVP and Alt Governor) .  I'm thinking Jimmy D at age 75 might step down.
Kenny will be 63 this November, and that would make him 64 by the time his first season with Seattle is getting underway (if the team ramps up by 2019-2020 season).  He's got 4 kids who most are still in the area.  Really nice home in the area.  He has summer vacation home in Ontario which is a fairly short drive (considering) from the Detroit area.  I just don't see it.   At his age, what he's already accomplished, doesn't need the money, moving literally all the way across the country to Seattle (or at least spend 2/3 of his year away from his home and family).  I don't think he will. 

IMO...I'm thinking he will be offered the Seattle job (IF they get a team), but he'll decline and head "upstairs" for the Wings in an advisory role (SVP and Alt Governor) .  I'm thinking Jimmy D at age 75 might step down.
Kenny will be 63 this November, and that would make him 64 by the time his first season with Seattle is getting underway (if the team ramps up by 2019-2020 season).  He's got 4 kids who most are still in the area.  Really nice home in the area.  He has summer vacation home in Ontario which is a fairly short drive (considering) from the Detroit area.  I just don't see it.   At his age, what he's already accomplished, doesn't need the money, moving literally all the way across the country to Seattle (or at least spend 2/3 of his year away from his home and family).  I don't think he will. 

This guy Tatar is just getting passed around like the smelliest Tartar sauce.

F*** that noise. Tatar sucks, and last I checked we still shutdown extraordinare, Jonathan Ericsson...

It would be nice if the NHL stopped with the year-after-year Winter Classic games.  IMO-It's lost it's luster and now seems like a on-going challenge to see what novel stadiums/setting they can play the game.  It's obvious from the news that Chicago and Boston are playing in South Bend that the actual teams playing in the game are kind of random/hand-outs.   I'd make it a every other year, or something different/staggered timing to create more desire and "buzz" to watch.  It's become a bit lame. 
Have they played the Winter Classic at Arthur Ash Stadium yet??  Augusta National?? 

Not saying that I don't think every avenue should be investigated when it comes to the health (short AND long term) of players, Especially considering the speed of the players today, the size/muscle these guys are packing, and the bulked up armor/equipment in today's game.  However, isn't this a free will sport?  Don't players choose to play in the NHL fully knowing what could happen?  I guarantee their parents knew when they invested all of the time and money to cultivate the player making it to the NHL ranks.  So...are we protecting players from themselves??
Our sport we love so much has always been like this.  It's what makes hockey fans to passionate, and non-hockey fans so indifferent.  LIve by the sword...die by the sword.
BTW...hate to see players go down like Lindros did...but he did have his head down while gaining the offensive zone at a high rate of speed....what did he expect in a Conference Finals game? 
Which brings up another question to pose...could some of this be eliminated with better coaching?  I know there has been a huge push in "Pop Warner"/youth football, high school, and college to teach better fundamentals to the youth involved in the sport.  The right way to hit and tackle, QB's leaving receivers out to hang with vulnerable passes over the middle, etc. .  I will say, I'm pretty sure Gordie Howe and tons of other older players who've played in the league would definitely teach that if you skate with your head down while handling the puck... you're going to get nailed.

Not saying that I don't think every avenue should be investigated when it comes to the health (short AND long term) of players, Especially considering the speed of the players today, the size/muscle these guys are packing, and the bulked up armor/equipment in today's game.  However, isn't this a free will sport?  Don't players choose to play in the NHL fully knowing what could happen?  I guarantee their parents knew when they invested all of the time and money to cultivate the player making it to the NHL ranks.  So...are we protecting players from themselves??
Our sport we love so much has always been like this.  It's what makes hockey fans to passionate, and non-hockey fans so indifferent.  LIve by the sword...die by the sword.
BTW...hate to see players go down like Lindros did...but he did have his head down while gaining the offensive zone at a high rate of speed....what did he expect in a Conference Finals game? 
Which brings up another question to pose...could some of this be eliminated with better coaching?  I know there has been a huge push in "Pop Warner"/youth football, high school, and college to teach better fundamentals to the youth involved in the sport.  The right way to hit and tackle, QB's leaving receivers out to hang with vulnerable passes over the middle, etc. .  I will say, I'm pretty sure Gordie Howe and tons of other older players who've played in the league would definitely teach that if you skate with your head down while handling the puck... you're going to get nailed.

Pretty much this. All of these players (football too) knew there were risks to their sport, although admittedly not fully understood. I feel sympathy for anyone who has lifelong brain damage from playing any sport, but at what point do you stop suing others and admit to some degree of personal accountability. 

Not saying that I don't think every avenue should be investigated when it comes to the health (short AND long term) of players, Especially considering the speed of the players today, the size/muscle these guys are packing, and the bulked up armor/equipment in today's game.  However, isn't this a free will sport?  Don't players choose to play in the NHL fully knowing what could happen?  I guarantee their parents knew when they invested all of the time and money to cultivate the player making it to the NHL ranks.  So...are we protecting players from themselves??
Our sport we love so much has always been like this.  It's what makes hockey fans to passionate, and non-hockey fans so indifferent.  LIve by the sword...die by the sword.
BTW...hate to see players go down like Lindros did...but he did have his head down while gaining the offensive zone at a high rate of speed....what did he expect in a Conference Finals game? 
Which brings up another question to pose...could some of this be eliminated with better coaching?  I know there has been a huge push in "Pop Warner"/youth football, high school, and college to teach better fundamentals to the youth involved in the sport.  The right way to hit and tackle, QB's leaving receivers out to hang with vulnerable passes over the middle, etc. .  I will say, I'm pretty sure Gordie Howe and tons of other older players who've played in the league would definitely teach that if you skate with your head down while handling the puck... you're going to get nailed.

In the future he should hold all Larkin Hockey School practices in his "dungeon"
 

Agree with these sentiments.  Plus, you have to consider the Canadian contingent that has a heavy hand in the whole HHOF process/Board of Directors/Selection Committee. More of late It's gotten more representation from people who's home country isn't Canada (e.g. Igor Larionov), but you have to be a no-brainer, LOCK, if were a player from Russia. 

Got it!  I thought they lent players to other teams in their own league...that's what threw me.  Thanks for the explanation.  Makes total sense.

Benefit of player development in better conditions. It´s very common. 

The NHL loans players too. Christopher Ehn was under contract with the Red Wings last season, but played for Frolunda. Sulak was under contract with us but was loaned to the Pelicans of Finland's SM-Liiga.
The only reason players like Cholowski and Rasmussen aren't considered loans when they go back to the WHL, is because the NHL, AHL, and CHL all have agreements between them that facilitate the process/organization of loans to the point that everything is pretty much systematic. Thus it ceases to feel like a true loan in spirit.
To answer your questions though, the team receiving the loaned player essentially gets a good player for free, and the team offering the loaned player gets to have said loaned player develop on a team more suited for them, A. because the player isn't ready  yet and needs to develop more before joining a higher league, or B. they're simply isn't enough room on the big club and it's better to have a player play somewhere than not at all. Could be a combination of both A and B. Disclaimer: I'm speaking strictly from a hockey standpoint, I do not understand the mess that is soccer.