Wings acquire D Cory Cross from Penguins

[hockaholic 1]

I've stopped reading these posts on a frequent basis because of the negativity spewed all the time. All you naysayers must be NHL legends.

Anyway, here is the TSN scouting report:

Assets Is a very smart player from the back end. Knows when to pinch in from the point and owns a hard, low shot. Possesses tremendous size and reach.

Flaws Has had a hard time grasping the physical aspect of the NHL. At his size, he's always expected to be far more aggressive than he is.

Career potential No. 5 or 6 defenseman.

[Johnny Diamonds 25]

http://www.wdfn.com/main.htm

yes and they should replay the interview within the next hour

[J-Swift 0]

Why? Cross has 5 inches and 30 pounds on Rivers, Rivers doesn't hit and isn't much of a penalty-killer, while Cross does (occasionally) and is.

Maybe Rivers' one lonesome assist this season is proof of his offensive firepower.

Unless Cory Cross has progressed significantly from when I saw him play all the time in TO, I'll take Jamie Rivers thank you very much. You are underselling Rivers, IMO. He was a better depth d-man than he got credit for. The fact is, and I repeat for the thousandth time, Cross could not hold down a spot on the worst defensive squad in the league.

Anyways, though acquiring Cory Cross is indeed pretty insigificant, the fact that at the end of the day we shipped Jamie Rivers and a fourth out for Cross and a seventh kinda perplexes me. What was Holland hoping to accomplish?

[Guest 14shanahan14]

wow cory cross, woo hoo. i hope he is as good as lilja. lmao jk

[J-Swift 0]

I've stopped reading these posts on a frequent basis because of the negativity spewed all the time.  All you naysayers must be NHL legends.

Anyway, here is the TSN scouting report:

Assets  Is a very smart player from the back end. Knows when to pinch in from the point and owns a hard, low shot. Possesses tremendous size and reach.

Flaws  Has had a hard time grasping the physical aspect of the NHL. At his size, he's always expected to be far more aggressive than he is.

Career potential  No. 5 or 6 defenseman.

You should probably post a link: Cory Cross scouting report

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

http://www.wdfn.com/main.htm

yes and they should replay the interview within the next hour

Hopefully they'll replay it. When I clicked on the link, an error page came up. I'm assuming its over.

What did Holland say?

[Dominator2005 558]

I would still rather have Lukowich than Cross... I was hoping for Mitchell...

[Johnny Diamonds 25]

Why?  Cross has 5 inches and 30 pounds on Rivers, Rivers doesn't hit and isn't much of a penalty-killer, while Cross does (occasionally) and is.

Maybe Rivers' one lonesome assist this season is proof of his offensive firepower.

Unless Cory Cross has progressed significantly from when I saw him play all the time in TO, I'll take Jamie Rivers thank you very much. You are underselling Rivers, IMO. He was a better depth d-man than he got credit for. The fact is, and I repeat for the thousandth time, Cross could not hold down a spot on the worst defensive squad in the league.

Anyways, though acquiring Cory Cross is indeed pretty insigificant, the fact that at the end of the day we shipped Jamie Rivers and a fourth out for Cross and a seventh kinda perplexes me. What was Holland hoping to accomplish?

The Pens are in a position where they are just stacking draft picks, to get a 4th round pick is like gold to them right now.

[Johnny Diamonds 25]

http://www.wdfn.com/main.htm

yes and they should replay the interview within the next hour

Hopefully they'll replay it. When I clicked on the link, an error page came up. I'm assuming its over.

What did Holland say?

Basicly he said, we're doin fine as we've been all year, we can't afford to make a huge move right now, we added some depth, and If the elitist wing fans don't like it they can go root for Edmonton or Nashville.

[betterREDthandead 58]

Why?  Cross has 5 inches and 30 pounds on Rivers, Rivers doesn't hit and isn't much of a penalty-killer, while Cross does (occasionally) and is.

Maybe Rivers' one lonesome assist this season is proof of his offensive firepower.

Unless Cory Cross has progressed significantly from when I saw him play all the time in TO, I'll take Jamie Rivers thank you very much. You are underselling Rivers, IMO. He was a better depth d-man than he got credit for. The fact is, and I repeat for the thousandth time, Cross could not hold down a spot on the worst defensive squad in the league.

Anyways, though acquiring Cory Cross is indeed pretty insigificant, the fact that at the end of the day we shipped Jamie Rivers and a fourth out for Cross and a seventh kinda perplexes me. What was Holland hoping to accomplish?

What did Rivers ever do to convince you he was worth anything? Myself, I've never been too happy with his play. As for Cross, there's lots of instances where players just don't fit with the teams they're on. He was perfectly decent in his past stops in Edmonton, Toronto, and Tampa Bay.

[Dominator2005 558]

To CGY: 2006 4th RD draft pick - To NJ: C Jason Wiemer

We could use Wiemer

[GuloGulo 0]

To CGY: 2006 4th RD draft pick - To NJ: C Jason Wiemer

We could use Wiemer

I doubt CGY would give him to us even if we asked.

[Dominator2005 558]

To CGY: 2006 4th RD draft pick - To NJ: C Jason Wiemer

We could use Wiemer

I doubt CGY would give him to us even if we asked.

Willie Mitchell ended in Dallas...

Roloson in Edmonton...

Anything is possible...

Edited March 9, 2006 by Dominator2005

[Johnny Diamonds 25]

To CGY: 2006 4th RD draft pick - To NJ: C Jason Wiemer

We could use Wiemer

I doubt CGY would give him to us even if we asked.

Exactly Gulo, there are alot of teams not interested in helping the Wings remain on top of the league, the Wings have a target on their back.

[Heaton 1]

To CGY: 2006 4th RD draft pick - To NJ: C Jason Wiemer

We could use Wiemer

I doubt CGY would give him to us even if we asked.

Willie Mitchell ended in Dallas...

Roloson in Edmonton...

Anything is possible...

rofl, Wiemer. He's the foward version of Cory Cross.

[Dominator2005 558]

To CGY: 2006 4th RD draft pick - To NJ: C Jason Wiemer

We could use Wiemer

I doubt CGY would give him to us even if we asked.

Willie Mitchell ended in Dallas...

Roloson in Edmonton...

Anything is possible...

rofl, Wiemer. He's the foward version of Cory Cross.

BRAINLESS!!!

[wingsgirl001 983]

Sooo....the consensus is this guy sucks?

[Johnny Diamonds 25]

Sooo....the consensus is this guy sucks?

I'm sure the same was thought about Samuelson before he came here,

[norrisnick 1]

Sooo....the consensus is this guy sucks?

He's as good as you'd expect from a guy not expected to be playing regularly with the Wings.

peace

[Dominator2005 558]

I'm sure the same was thought about Samuelson before he came here,

I HOPE THAT YOU'RE RIGHT!!!

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Listen, I'm not too happy with dealing a 4th rounder for a nobody, but let me place you in this scenario:

Kronwall and Chelios get hurt (GOD FORBID). Who are you going to bring in to get the third line minutes? Rivers? Who's been perfectly horrible this year? Or Cross, who's proven he can be a warm body and leave the ice just as it was when he crawled over the boards.

[cupcrazy 13]

We should have just keep what we had! This is NO improvement.If we weren't going to get a starter what was the point?

[betterREDthandead 58]

Sooo....the consensus is this guy sucks?

Not if I'm part of the consensus. Cross is better than Rivers, in my not-so-humble opinion. GuloGulo put it pretty well, I think.

[GuloGulo 0]

according to nhl.com Rivers has expressed discontent not playing, so Holland perhaps got rid of the least happy dude and brought in another shoe filler?

[Dominator2005 558]

Not if I'm part of the consensus. Cross is better than Rivers, in my not-so-humble opinion. GuloGulo put it pretty well, I think.

Rivers + 4th pick are better than Cross and 7th pick...