Dats to flyers in offseason?

[WingMachine91 0]

so this isnt a rumor or anything, but i live in the greater phili area or flyers country and have many flyers fans. i hear many convos about what the flyers will do in the offseason and how they will have about 20 million in cap room left. they were talking about signing a good defenseman, and Datsyuk. i can see the flyers possibly shelling out the 7 million for him, cause they will have the room. does anyone else think this will happen, cause i hope not. but that is one team that i bet would shell the money he wants

[FinRedWing 172]

Of course that could happen.

Teams with huge cap room have an advantage,'cause they can seriously overpay.

If they'd offer 7 million to Dats,I bet he'd be in Philly faster than anyone can say "greedy Russian"

There's only one "but" in this one- Dats doesn't play for the Islanders (are Flyers allowed to trade with other teams too?)

[ShanahanMan 473]

it all depends on how he does in the playoffs

Edited February 5, 2007 by shanahanman

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

so this isnt a rumor or anything, but i live in the greater phili area or flyers country and have many flyers fans. i hear many convos about what the flyers will do in the offseason and how they will have about 20 million in cap room left. they were talking about signing a good defenseman, and Datsyuk. i can see the flyers possibly shelling out the 7 million for him, cause they will have the room. does anyone else think this will happen, cause i hope not. but that is one team that i bet would shell the money he wants

If a team actually has the money like that to dish out, he could be somewhere else next season. He still needs to show he's anywhere near his (or his agent's) demands in a few months, because right now he's nowhere close to that, and I think it's a safe assumption to think that most owners think he's not worth that kinda money, not yet anyways.

[Zetter is Better 0]

It could happen but never will, I don`t think anyone wants washed up players from Phili, except Gagne.

[T-Ruff 47]

It could happen but never will, I don`t think anyone wants washed up players from Phili, except Gagne.

Yes, but he would be leaving as an UFA, we wouldn't get any washed up Philly players in return

[datsyuk_13_fan 0]

If Buffalo can't sign both Briere and Drury which is very likely since both will want a raise, I see philly picking one of them up. Philly has already said they are interested in both of them. Briere will probably want around 7 million and Drury will want around 5 million.

[Matt 1,049]

Philly has already said they are interested in both of them.

Tampering? Hello! The Flyers have said no such thing on the record. Philadelphia scribes can speculate at that, and there may have been a wink-wink-nudge-nudge, but no team will say such things publicly.

[GoalieManPat 1,007]

Dats needs to prove he can play in the playoffs before anyone should pay him anything near what he wants. Then again there are very few smart GM's

[toby91_ca 620]

I have seen the $7 million number thrown around a few times. Is that what Datsyuk is really looking for? If so, any documentation to back that up?

Ignoring playoffs, how does Datsyuk's regular season warrant him a contract anywhere near $7 million?? Since when do point per game players deserve $7 million?

[Hank 0]

This would be a perfect fit. Philly isn't heading to the playoffs anytime soon and since Dats does his best Casper impression when April roles around, his regular season glory would be welcomed.

I have a funny feeling he might end up in Washington though. A.O. needs a playmaking centre and Washington is well under the cap. They could overspend to get Dats.

I have seen the $7 million number thrown around a few times. Is that what Datsyuk is really looking for? If so, any documentation to back that up?

Ignoring playoffs, how does Datsyuk's regular season warrant him a contract anywhere near $7 million?? Since when do point per game players deserve $7 million?

There were strong rumours that Dats and his agent turned down a 5 year deal at $5 mill per year in the summer. And more "rumblings" from the hockey world have suggested that Datsyuk wants between $6-7 million.

I'd agree that just based on regular season stats, Datsyuk isn't close to a $7 million/year player. Heck, he's not close to $5 million. But his agent is widely known as being borderline insane. The fact that Datsyuk still employs him tells you all you need to know.

The fact is, Datsyuk has had only ONE season where he's averaged more than a point-per-game. And this year, he proved that he can't do squat without an elite player on his line. There aren't a lot of players like that in the league, but none of them are making $7 million a year either. Martin Havlat deserves $6+. He can make things happen with ECHL linemates. Dats cannot.

I'm still praying that Datsyuk keeps believing he's a $7 mill guy so he walks out of town. He's exactly why this team hasn't done squat in 3 years in the playoffs. We keep pinning our playoff hopes on his shoulders and all he does is vanish when the going gets tough.

Edited February 5, 2007 by Hank

[Kp-Wings 3]

If we get someone for Datsyuk, that'd be great. But if he just left on his own after the season, I wouldn't cry in my beer over it. Hank already put it forward: He can't play without an elite player along side him. We don't need that here. We can spend about 7 million in 3 or 4 players that can equal his talent, and score in the playoffs. It's as simple as that.

[JayUp88 1]

If we get someone for Datsyuk, that'd be great. But if he just left on his own after the season, I wouldn't cry in my beer over it. Hank already put it forward: He can't play without an elite player along side him. We don't need that here. We can spend about 7 million in 3 or 4 players that can equal his talent, and score in the playoffs. It's as simple as that.

They only way we can get something for him is if we trade him away before the summer. I don't really want to see that happening. they need to just get him signed before this seasons even over.

[clutchngrab 12]

I think Dats has performed commensurate with his current salary. He will have to have a monster playoff to get to the 6 - 7 mil mark. Currently, I think he is about 36th in the league in ppg average which does not justify that anywhere near what his agent wants.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

The Wings will not let him go. If he wants 6-7 million, the Wings will trade players for draft picks to get their salary down and they will sign him. The same goes with Hank.

[Hank 0]

The Wings will not let him go. If he wants 6-7 million, the Wings will trade players for draft picks to get their salary down and they will sign him. The same goes with Hank.

Then the Wings deserve all the playoff misfortune they've endured in the past and for the future disappointments they will surely see.

I hope that Holland finally wakes up and sees Datsyuk for what he really is - Playoff Cancer.

And please don't compare Zetts to Dats; it's not even close. It's like comparing Mark Messier to Jimmy Carson.

[sibiriak 84]

This would be a perfect fit. Philly isn't heading to the playoffs anytime soon and since Dats does his best Casper impression when April roles around, his regular season glory would be welcomed.

I have a funny feeling he might end up in Washington though. A.O. needs a playmaking centre and Washington is well under the cap. They could overspend to get Dats.

There were strong rumours that Dats and his agent turned down a 5 year deal at $5 mill per year in the summer. And more "rumblings" from the hockey world have suggested that Datsyuk wants between $6-7 million.

I'd agree that just based on regular season stats, Datsyuk isn't close to a $7 million/year player. Heck, he's not close to $5 million. But his agent is widely known as being borderline insane. The fact that Datsyuk still employs him tells you all you need to know.

The fact is, Datsyuk has had only ONE season where he's averaged more than a point-per-game. And this year, he proved that he can't do squat without an elite player on his line. There aren't a lot of players like that in the league, but none of them are making $7 million a year either. Martin Havlat deserves $6+. He can make things happen with ECHL linemates. Dats cannot.

I'm still praying that Datsyuk keeps believing he's a $7 mill guy so he walks out of town. He's exactly why this team hasn't done squat in 3 years in the playoffs. We keep pinning our playoff hopes on his shoulders and all he does is vanish when the going gets tough.

Datsyuk is a career .87 PPG. He has 204 pts in 200 games post lockout. His playoff numbers are underwhelming. So let's not overblow his stats one way or the other. There has not been a single piece of evidence that Datsyuk demanded, let alone realistically hopes to get $7 mil. next year. What we know for sure, is that he turned down $5 mil. for 5 years offer. That means that he may have wanted different contract length, or higher salary, or both. We have no data as to what Datsyuk's side asked for. He has a realistic chance of doing better than $5 mil. on the UFA market. So it is rational for him to wait until July, and then see about his next year.

Before pulling a number out of ... nowhere and then accusing Datsyuk of demanding and not being worth that arbitrary number, do try to look at the situation at least somewhat rationally.

[toby91_ca 620]

The Wings will not let him go. If he wants 6-7 million, the Wings will trade players for draft picks to get their salary down and they will sign him. The same goes with Hank.

If that is true, then I would think the Wings would be a long way away from ever winning a cup again. Not because I think Datsyuk can't get it done in the playoffs, but because I think it would just be extremely poor management, that is not how you run a team. You can't overpay players and expect to stay competitive.

[Mila 0]

The Wings will not let him go. If he wants 6-7 million, the Wings will trade players for draft picks to get their salary down and they will sign him. The same goes with Hank.

It would not surprise me if Dats stayed at Detroit after HoDlland accepted 7M to him in the offseason, Holland has shown already several times how he can overpay players.

But IMO 7M to Dats is worse that 7M devided among 3 other competetive above average players. Dats is not worth of 7M.

[HenryMalredo 2]

Then the Wings deserve all the playoff misfortune they've endured in the past and for the future disappointments they will surely see.

I hope that Holland finally wakes up and sees Datsyuk for what he really is - Playoff Cancer.

And please don't compare Zetts to Dats; it's not even close. It's like comparing Mark Messier to Jimmy Carson.

How's Datsyuk playoff cancer? He hasn't put up the numbers in the playoffs, but he's no floater and has always had a good attitude.

[MacK_Attack 108]

The Wings will not let him go. If he wants 6-7 million, the Wings will trade players for draft picks to get their salary down and they will sign him. The same goes with Hank.

That's a recipe for disaster.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Honestly, Detroit she not be too concerned about signing Datsyuk if he wants 7 million. Detroit could get Drury for about 5 million and be a stronger team because of it. Sykora, Gomez, Forsberg, Perreault, Comrie, and Lang are all also strong options that are cheaper and allow us to go after a few good wingers in the form of Blake, Zubrus, O'Neill, Tucker, Bertuzzi, Kozlov, Kariya, Hartnell, Doan, Nolan, Tkachuk, Guerin, Nagy, Modin, etc. Thats a pretty good bunch right there. If worse comes to worse, Flip can anchor the 2nd line with some solid wingers.

[ProfessorLidstrom5 0]

Honestly, this is a classic case of boy meets girl, boy loves girl, boy gets sick of girl because she won't "perform" to his liking, boy leaves girl, girl finds new boy, girl "performs" like old boy wanted with new boy. Old boy kicks himself because he is jealous. You replace the boy with the Red Wings, the girl with Datsyuk, and the new boy with new hockey team.

Holland doesn't want to let Datsyuk go because he believes once he does, Dats will turn it on with his new team in the playoffs. He doesn't want to be the GM that let "that great player" go. It's a risk he may not want to take.

[WingMachine91 0]

Honestly, this is a classic case of boy meets girl, boy loves girl, boy gets sick of girl because she won't "perform" to his liking, boy leaves girl, girl finds new boy, girl "performs" like old boy wanted with new boy. Old boy kicks himself because he is jealous. You replace the boy with the Red Wings, the girl with Datsyuk, and the new boy with new hockey team.

Holland doesn't want to let Datsyuk go because he believes once he does, Dats will turn it on with his new team in the playoffs. He doesn't want to be the GM that let "that great player" go. It's a risk he may not want to take.

agreed

[BobRouse03 31]

I doubt the Flyers will go after him. Paul Holmgren (unless he is fired) is a Bob Clarke clone. They are cut from the same jib. I can't see them trying to center their team around a Russian. It is still old school thinking in the Flyers organization. The main goal is to resign Forsberg and develop their D. Although they have a lot of cap room I can't envision them shelling out 7 million a year for Datsyuk.